There are 2 schools of thought for me surrounding those who work on the bins
1 is that they do a rough, shitty, yet essential job and we should appreciate them.
2 is that they are a pain in the arse. Leave a mess behind them leave the ever increasing number of council provided waste receptacles all over the gaff and it will always be the day you really could do without being late they are in the way on your drive to work.
They don't earn terrible money but the fact that job exists is a good motivator to our drop out youth in school to aim higher and get an education unless you want to do that job. Fair play to anyone who does that job, better that than be an estate agent in my book.
or you could reverse that, why bother training to become a nurse when you can earn more on the bins
Coming home to find that the binmen have yet again left the bins on the other side of the road from your house because the lazy cnuts can't be bothered putting them back.
This is easily resolved. Just mention your theory to them that they are all lazy c**** and I guarantee they will never forget which house is yours again.
Personally, my guys are brilliant; up at dawns crack, whatever the weather or time of year, can't do enough for us within reason but as a minimum running several miles per day emptying 1000's of stinking bins and getting dogs abuse from some less enlightened members of the public all for about £15k a year. Guess I'm just lucky.
Coming home to find that the binmen have yet again left the bins on the other side of the road from your house because the lazy cnuts can't be bothered putting them back.
This is easily resolved. Just mention your theory to them that they are all lazy c**** and I guarantee they will never forget which house is yours again.
Personally, my guys are brilliant; up at dawns crack, whatever the weather or time of year, can't do enough for us within reason but as a minimum running several miles per day emptying 1000's of stinking bins and getting dogs abuse from some less enlightened members of the public all for about £15k a year. Guess I'm just lucky.
Actually, their BASIC wage is about 25k.
Not according to the National Careers Service it isn't. Nor indeed do any of those that I know personally and work alongside earn anywhere near that but I'm sure you're right...
Coming home to find that the binmen have yet again left the bins on the other side of the road from your house because the lazy cnuts can't be bothered putting them back.
This is easily resolved. Just mention your theory to them that they are all lazy c**** and I guarantee they will never forget which house is yours again.
Personally, my guys are brilliant; up at dawns crack, whatever the weather or time of year, can't do enough for us within reason but as a minimum running several miles per day emptying 1000's of stinking bins and getting dogs abuse from some less enlightened members of the public all for about £15k a year. Guess I'm just lucky.
Actually, their BASIC wage is about 25k.
Not according to the National Careers Service it isn't. Nor indeed do any of those that I know personally and work alongside earn anywhere near that but I'm sure you're right...
Quick update for pedantries sake...I just asked one of their chargehands what the average salary of a bin man was for this area. Drivers get a little more (not much) as they have HGV but basic salary for this area is about £12,500. In fact much to his annoyance lots of them have to take second jobs to make ends meet...the lazy feckers.
Coming home to find that the binmen have yet again left the bins on the other side of the road from your house because the lazy cnuts can't be bothered putting them back.
This is easily resolved. Just mention your theory to them that they are all lazy c**** and I guarantee they will never forget which house is yours again.
Personally, my guys are brilliant; up at dawns crack, whatever the weather or time of year, can't do enough for us within reason but as a minimum running several miles per day emptying 1000's of stinking bins and getting dogs abuse from some less enlightened members of the public all for about £15k a year. Guess I'm just lucky.
Actually, their BASIC wage is about 25k.
Not according to the National Careers Service it isn't. Nor indeed do any of those that I know personally and work alongside earn anywhere near that but I'm sure you're right...
Quick update for pedantries sake...I just asked one of their chargehands what the average salary of a bin man was for this area. Drivers get a little more (not much) as they have HGV but basic salary for this area is about £12,500. In fact much to his annoyance lots of them have to take second jobs to make ends meet...the lazy feckers.
Coming home to find that the binmen have yet again left the bins on the other side of the road from your house because the lazy cnuts can't be bothered putting them back.
This is easily resolved. Just mention your theory to them that they are all lazy c**** and I guarantee they will never forget which house is yours again.
Personally, my guys are brilliant; up at dawns crack, whatever the weather or time of year, can't do enough for us within reason but as a minimum running several miles per day emptying 1000's of stinking bins and getting dogs abuse from some less enlightened members of the public all for about £15k a year. Guess I'm just lucky.
Actually, their BASIC wage is about 25k.
Not according to the National Careers Service it isn't. Nor indeed do any of those that I know personally and work alongside earn anywhere near that but I'm sure you're right...
Quick update for pedantries sake...I just asked one of their chargehands what the average salary of a bin man was for this area. Drivers get a little more (not much) as they have HGV but basic salary for this area is about £12,500. In fact much to his annoyance lots of them have to take second jobs to make ends meet...the lazy feckers.
So, because binmen are only on 12-13K, it means they don't have to do their jobs properly? I came up against the same logic when I was at Rentokil. Our basic was 14500, so it meant that only around 1 or 2 of us from every team (Of around 12) actually done a proper job. From those 1 or 2, I don't think any are still working there.
Coming home to find that the binmen have yet again left the bins on the other side of the road from your house because the lazy cnuts can't be bothered putting them back.
This is easily resolved. Just mention your theory to them that they are all lazy c**** and I guarantee they will never forget which house is yours again.
Personally, my guys are brilliant; up at dawns crack, whatever the weather or time of year, can't do enough for us within reason but as a minimum running several miles per day emptying 1000's of stinking bins and getting dogs abuse from some less enlightened members of the public all for about £15k a year. Guess I'm just lucky.
Wind your neck in mate, surely it's getting a bit boring sniping at every one of my posts just because you once disagreed with something I said a few months ago.
The check-out assistants at supermarkets won't be getting paid any better than binmen (believe me, I know) but they are courteous and offer to pack your bags. Every other week I walk home and see bins strewn across my road. Good thing I don't drive home from work, I'm sure it's pretty annoying having to meander around bins.
I was taught that if you're doing a job, do it well, not do it half-arsedly and claim you're underpaid. If the binmen feel they don't get paid enough they should take it up with their employer, not take it out on their customers.
Coming home to find that the binmen have yet again left the bins on the other side of the road from your house because the lazy cnuts can't be bothered putting them back.
This is easily resolved. Just mention your theory to them that they are all lazy c**** and I guarantee they will never forget which house is yours again.
Personally, my guys are brilliant; up at dawns crack, whatever the weather or time of year, can't do enough for us within reason but as a minimum running several miles per day emptying 1000's of stinking bins and getting dogs abuse from some less enlightened members of the public all for about £15k a year. Guess I'm just lucky.
Actually, their BASIC wage is about 25k.
Not according to the National Careers Service it isn't. Nor indeed do any of those that I know personally and work alongside earn anywhere near that but I'm sure you're right...
Quick update for pedantries sake...I just asked one of their chargehands what the average salary of a bin man was for this area. Drivers get a little more (not much) as they have HGV but basic salary for this area is about £12,500. In fact much to his annoyance lots of them have to take second jobs to make ends meet...the lazy feckers.
So, because binmen are only on 12-13K, it means they don't have to do their jobs properly? I came up against the same logic when I was at Rentokil. Our basic was 14500, so it meant that only around 1 or 2 of us from every team (Of around 12) actually done a proper job. From those 1 or 2, I don't think any are still working there.
Er...no, what I'm saying is that they don't earn as much as (mis)reported or others would like to think and in my experience do a pretty good job.
I've already linked to an official site setting out a range of salaries significantly lower than some have claimed, I even texted someone responsible for their recruitment and employment who told me that here the average is even less than that around here and now is a link to a recently advertised job in London @ £6:50/hour which by my maths is about bang on what I was told it would be.
Coming home to find that the binmen have yet again left the bins on the other side of the road from your house because the lazy cnuts can't be bothered putting them back.
This is easily resolved. Just mention your theory to them that they are all lazy c**** and I guarantee they will never forget which house is yours again.
Personally, my guys are brilliant; up at dawns crack, whatever the weather or time of year, can't do enough for us within reason but as a minimum running several miles per day emptying 1000's of stinking bins and getting dogs abuse from some less enlightened members of the public all for about £15k a year. Guess I'm just lucky.
Actually, their BASIC wage is about 25k.
Not according to the National Careers Service it isn't. Nor indeed do any of those that I know personally and work alongside earn anywhere near that but I'm sure you're right...
Quick update for pedantries sake...I just asked one of their chargehands what the average salary of a bin man was for this area. Drivers get a little more (not much) as they have HGV but basic salary for this area is about £12,500. In fact much to his annoyance lots of them have to take second jobs to make ends meet...the lazy feckers.
So, because binmen are only on 12-13K, it means they don't have to do their jobs properly? I came up against the same logic when I was at Rentokil. Our basic was 14500, so it meant that only around 1 or 2 of us from every team (Of around 12) actually done a proper job. From those 1 or 2, I don't think any are still working there.
Er...no, what I'm saying is that they don't earn as much as (mis)reported or others would like to think and in my experience do a pretty good job.
I've already linked to an official site setting out a range of salaries significantly lower than some have claimed, I even texted someone responsible for their recruitment and employment who told me that here the average is even less than that around here and now is a link to a recently advertised job in London @ £6:50/hour which by my maths is about bang on what I was told it would be.
You ain't gotta text noone on my behalf mate. If I took the job on and I was paid 6.50 to collect bins, I'd do it properly and I say that with hand on me heart.
Coming home to find that the binmen have yet again left the bins on the other side of the road from your house because the lazy cnuts can't be bothered putting them back.
This is easily resolved. Just mention your theory to them that they are all lazy c**** and I guarantee they will never forget which house is yours again.
Personally, my guys are brilliant; up at dawns crack, whatever the weather or time of year, can't do enough for us within reason but as a minimum running several miles per day emptying 1000's of stinking bins and getting dogs abuse from some less enlightened members of the public all for about £15k a year. Guess I'm just lucky.
Actually, their BASIC wage is about 25k.
Not according to the National Careers Service it isn't. Nor indeed do any of those that I know personally and work alongside earn anywhere near that but I'm sure you're right...
Quick update for pedantries sake...I just asked one of their chargehands what the average salary of a bin man was for this area. Drivers get a little more (not much) as they have HGV but basic salary for this area is about £12,500. In fact much to his annoyance lots of them have to take second jobs to make ends meet...the lazy feckers.
I'm not for one minute saying you are lying but those numbers trouble me. 12,500 for a council working week of 37 hours does not add up.
A HGV licence holder doing only agency work can comfortably earn 30,000 which would beg the question why work on the bins.
Coming home to find that the binmen have yet again left the bins on the other side of the road from your house because the lazy cnuts can't be bothered putting them back.
This is easily resolved. Just mention your theory to them that they are all lazy c**** and I guarantee they will never forget which house is yours again.
Personally, my guys are brilliant; up at dawns crack, whatever the weather or time of year, can't do enough for us within reason but as a minimum running several miles per day emptying 1000's of stinking bins and getting dogs abuse from some less enlightened members of the public all for about £15k a year. Guess I'm just lucky.
Actually, their BASIC wage is about 25k.
Not according to the National Careers Service it isn't. Nor indeed do any of those that I know personally and work alongside earn anywhere near that but I'm sure you're right...
Quick update for pedantries sake...I just asked one of their chargehands what the average salary of a bin man was for this area. Drivers get a little more (not much) as they have HGV but basic salary for this area is about £12,500. In fact much to his annoyance lots of them have to take second jobs to make ends meet...the lazy feckers.
I'm not for one minute saying you are lying but those numbers trouble me. 12,500 for a council working week of 37 hours does not add up.
A HGV licence holder doing only agency work can comfortably earn 30,000 which would beg the question why work on the bins.
Coming home to find that the binmen have yet again left the bins on the other side of the road from your house because the lazy cnuts can't be bothered putting them back.
This is easily resolved. Just mention your theory to them that they are all lazy c**** and I guarantee they will never forget which house is yours again.
Personally, my guys are brilliant; up at dawns crack, whatever the weather or time of year, can't do enough for us within reason but as a minimum running several miles per day emptying 1000's of stinking bins and getting dogs abuse from some less enlightened members of the public all for about £15k a year. Guess I'm just lucky.
Wind your neck in mate, surely it's getting a bit boring sniping at every one of my posts just because you once disagreed with something I said a few months ago.
The check-out assistants at supermarkets won't be getting paid any better than binmen (believe me, I know) but they are courteous and offer to pack your bags. Every other week I walk home and see bins strewn across my road. Good thing I don't drive home from work, I'm sure it's pretty annoying having to meander around bins.
I was taught that if you're doing a job, do it well, not do it half-arsedly and claim you're underpaid. If the binmen feel they don't get paid enough they should take it up with their employer, not take it out on their customers.
My final word on the subject mate but have you considered that your binmen probably don't have time to replace them in exactly the same spot they were left? Rounds have been significantly extended to reduce the crew size i.e. costs, meaning that they, in my area anyway, literally have to run to keep up with the route schedule. They don't get time to pick up every scrap of rubbish or place bins back to your exacting standards.
BTW I have never seen a bin in the road that wasn't blown there after they left either but your comment about them all being lazy c#### taking it all out on their customers says everything about your attitude to public services to me, hence the reason our views will probably clash doesn't it?
Sorry to inject a few facts and logic into your edgy first world moan.
Arguing about the bins on a football site. Tragic.
To be fair I take full responsibity for posting anything knowing full well BoringAddick would interpret it as an attack on the entire public sector, like he does with every single one of my posts.
Coming home to find that the binmen have yet again left the bins on the other side of the road from your house because the lazy cnuts can't be bothered putting them back.
This is easily resolved. Just mention your theory to them that they are all lazy c**** and I guarantee they will never forget which house is yours again.
Personally, my guys are brilliant; up at dawns crack, whatever the weather or time of year, can't do enough for us within reason but as a minimum running several miles per day emptying 1000's of stinking bins and getting dogs abuse from some less enlightened members of the public all for about £15k a year. Guess I'm just lucky.
Wind your neck in mate, surely it's getting a bit boring sniping at every one of my posts just because you once disagreed with something I said a few months ago.
The check-out assistants at supermarkets won't be getting paid any better than binmen (believe me, I know) but they are courteous and offer to pack your bags. Every other week I walk home and see bins strewn across my road. Good thing I don't drive home from work, I'm sure it's pretty annoying having to meander around bins.
I was taught that if you're doing a job, do it well, not do it half-arsedly and claim you're underpaid. If the binmen feel they don't get paid enough they should take it up with their employer, not take it out on their customers.
My final word on the subject mate but have you considered that your binmen probably don't have time to replace them in exactly the same spot they were left? Rounds have been significantly extended to reduce the crew size i.e. costs, meaning that they, in my area anyway, literally have to run to keep up with the route schedule. They don't get time to pick up every scrap of rubbish or place bins back to your exacting standards.
BTW I have never seen a bin in the road that wasn't blown there after they left either but your comment about them all being lazy c#### taking it all out on their customers says everything about your attitude to public services to me, hence the reason our views will probably clash doesn't it?
Sorry to inject a few facts and logic into your edgy first world moan.
No need to apologise, I'm ready to hear your fact and logic when you're ready to post them. Given your posting history on this board I won't be holding my breath.
I know you have a pathological need to defend the public sector everytime someone even hints that a job could be done slightly better but ignoring your blinkered view on the subject for a second, I will explain why I posted the original moan in a thread called 'General things that Annoy you':
The road I live on is prone to strong gusts of wind. In fact the whole area is. The residents generally place their bins against walls so that they are shielded from the wind, and also that they are out of the way. Now, a binman grabs a bin, empties it, and instead of spending 5 seconds (because that is how long it would take to return the bin) to place it back against the wall, they leave it on the side of the road, sometimes not even on the pavement. Then, when it gets windy, all these now empty and therefore non-weighted bins tend to get blown over or down the road into someone's Mercedes. It's not even as if they don't have time to do it as the bin-lorry has to complete a 7-point turn near my house anyway as its in a cul-de-sac, so instead of watching a bin lorry turn around whilst picking their arses, maybe they could finish the job they're being paid to do. And guess what, this 'annoyance' doesn't happen every week, like once a month. The other times they do put the bins back in their correct position. So I wasn't having a go at all my binmen, or all of the UK's binmen, or even all of the UK's public sector, I was merely stating something that annoys me due to the actions of probably one or two people too lazy to do as good a job as the rest of their colleagues, and the moan being I have to spend an extra 10 seconds of my day once a month picking up my bin from down the road, so you might begin to understand my moan was somewhat tongue-in-cheek.
As for 'edgy first world moan', you might want to check the thread title, and the fact that 99% of the thread is generally tongue-in-cheek moans. Think we might have a new contender for the title of 'Captain Slow'.
The contents of a womans handbag. my wife's handbag resembles that of somebody going on a weeks holiday.
I wish I hadn't ask to borrow it now.
This. The number of times I ask 'where's the (phone/keys/chewing gum/stamps' and the answer is 'in my handbag', I just give up hope and let her look for it.
The equivalent for a man I reckon would be a bag filled with loose staples, ripped out pages of Loaded, expired Subway vouchers, a post-it with 'For the Milkman' written on it and half a Greggs sausage roll wrapped in paper.
The contents of a womans handbag. my wife's handbag resembles that of somebody going on a weeks holiday.
I wish I hadn't ask to borrow it now.
This. The number of times I ask 'where's the (phone/keys/chewing gum/stamps' and the answer is 'in my handbag', I just give up hope and let her look for it.
The equivalent for a man I reckon would be a bag filled with loose staples, ripped out pages of Loaded, expired Subway vouchers, a post-it with 'For the Milkman' written on it and half a Greggs sausage roll wrapped in paper.
I hope your misses don't work in the Public Sector @Fiiish , or else Bourny's gonna have your guts for garters pal!
Coming home to find that the binmen have yet again left the bins on the other side of the road from your house because the lazy cnuts can't be bothered putting them back.
This is easily resolved. Just mention your theory to them that they are all lazy c**** and I guarantee they will never forget which house is yours again.
Personally, my guys are brilliant; up at dawns crack, whatever the weather or time of year, can't do enough for us within reason but as a minimum running several miles per day emptying 1000's of stinking bins and getting dogs abuse from some less enlightened members of the public all for about £15k a year. Guess I'm just lucky.
Actually, their BASIC wage is about 25k.
Not according to the National Careers Service it isn't. Nor indeed do any of those that I know personally and work alongside earn anywhere near that but I'm sure you're right...
Quick update for pedantries sake...I just asked one of their chargehands what the average salary of a bin man was for this area. Drivers get a little more (not much) as they have HGV but basic salary for this area is about £12,500. In fact much to his annoyance lots of them have to take second jobs to make ends meet...the lazy feckers.
So, because binmen are only on 12-13K, it means they don't have to do their jobs properly? I came up against the same logic when I was at Rentokil. Our basic was 14500, so it meant that only around 1 or 2 of us from every team (Of around 12) actually done a proper job. From those 1 or 2, I don't think any are still working there.
Er...no, what I'm saying is that they don't earn as much as (mis)reported or others would like to think and in my experience do a pretty good job.
I've already linked to an official site setting out a range of salaries significantly lower than some have claimed, I even texted someone responsible for their recruitment and employment who told me that here the average is even less than that around here and now is a link to a recently advertised job in London @ £6:50/hour which by my maths is about bang on what I was told it would be.
You ain't gotta text noone on my behalf mate. If I took the job on and I was paid 6.50 to collect bins, I'd do it properly and I say that with hand on me heart.
You'd be shit at your job then. No one can lift bins one handed.
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The check-out assistants at supermarkets won't be getting paid any better than binmen (believe me, I know) but they are courteous and offer to pack your bags. Every other week I walk home and see bins strewn across my road. Good thing I don't drive home from work, I'm sure it's pretty annoying having to meander around bins.
I was taught that if you're doing a job, do it well, not do it half-arsedly and claim you're underpaid. If the binmen feel they don't get paid enough they should take it up with their employer, not take it out on their customers.
I've already linked to an official site setting out a range of salaries significantly lower than some have claimed, I even texted someone responsible for their recruitment and employment who told me that here the average is even less than that around here and now is a link to a recently advertised job in London @ £6:50/hour which by my maths is about bang on what I was told it would be.
jobview.monster.co.uk/Refuse-Loader-Job-Uxbridge-London-UK-145395537.aspx?WT.mc_n=olm_sk_feed_indeed_UK
You ain't gotta text noone on my behalf mate. If I took the job on and I was paid 6.50 to collect bins, I'd do it properly and I say that with hand on me heart.
I'm not for one minute saying you are lying but those numbers trouble me. 12,500 for a council working week of 37 hours does not add up.
A HGV licence holder doing only agency work can comfortably earn 30,000 which would beg the question why work on the bins.
BTW I have never seen a bin in the road that wasn't blown there after they left either but your comment about them all being lazy c#### taking it all out on their customers says everything about your attitude to public services to me, hence the reason our views will probably clash doesn't it?
Sorry to inject a few facts and logic into your edgy first world moan.
I know you have a pathological need to defend the public sector everytime someone even hints that a job could be done slightly better but ignoring your blinkered view on the subject for a second, I will explain why I posted the original moan in a thread called 'General things that Annoy you':
The road I live on is prone to strong gusts of wind. In fact the whole area is. The residents generally place their bins against walls so that they are shielded from the wind, and also that they are out of the way. Now, a binman grabs a bin, empties it, and instead of spending 5 seconds (because that is how long it would take to return the bin) to place it back against the wall, they leave it on the side of the road, sometimes not even on the pavement. Then, when it gets windy, all these now empty and therefore non-weighted bins tend to get blown over or down the road into someone's Mercedes. It's not even as if they don't have time to do it as the bin-lorry has to complete a 7-point turn near my house anyway as its in a cul-de-sac, so instead of watching a bin lorry turn around whilst picking their arses, maybe they could finish the job they're being paid to do. And guess what, this 'annoyance' doesn't happen every week, like once a month. The other times they do put the bins back in their correct position. So I wasn't having a go at all my binmen, or all of the UK's binmen, or even all of the UK's public sector, I was merely stating something that annoys me due to the actions of probably one or two people too lazy to do as good a job as the rest of their colleagues, and the moan being I have to spend an extra 10 seconds of my day once a month picking up my bin from down the road, so you might begin to understand my moan was somewhat tongue-in-cheek.
As for 'edgy first world moan', you might want to check the thread title, and the fact that 99% of the thread is generally tongue-in-cheek moans. Think we might have a new contender for the title of 'Captain Slow'.
I wish I hadn't ask to borrow it now.
The equivalent for a man I reckon would be a bag filled with loose staples, ripped out pages of Loaded, expired Subway vouchers, a post-it with 'For the Milkman' written on it and half a Greggs sausage roll wrapped in paper.