[cite]Posted By: charltonkeston[/cite]Anyone on here ever been on strike?
Yes. Led several as chair of the Trade Union Side in a previous role. That was represeneting people earning 10 grand a week for manual work with no chance of progression, shabby working conditions and a management cutting staff - not 40 grand a year for sitting on your arse saying 'mind the closing doors'
im sure theres a typo in there somewhere else i would say what ungrateful b'stards!
[cite]Posted By: charltonkeston[/cite]Anyone on here ever been on strike?
Yes. Led several as chair of the Trade Union Side in a previous role. That was represeneting people earning 10 grand a week for manual work with no chance of progression, shabby working conditions and a management cutting staff - not 40 grand a year for sitting on your arse saying 'mind the closing doors'
im sure theres a typo in there somewhere else i would say what ungrateful b'stards!
LOL - good spot!
That should, of course, have read 10 grand a YEAR.
Most of them already do, Stu. Apparently most tubes only have a driver present because the public demands it for safety reasons. Personally I'm not hugely reassured that there's a sweaty, bored, ovepaid/underworked alcoholic sitting at the front of the train pushing the button to open the doors, but some folk seem to find comfort in that.
[quote][cite]Posted By: McLovin[/cite]Most of them already do, Stu. Apparently most tubes only have a driver present because the public demands it for safety reasons. Personally I'm not hugely reassured that there's a sweaty, bored, ovepaid/underworked alcoholic sitting at the front of the train pushing the button to open the doors, but some folk seem to find comfort in that.[/quote]
Maybe overpaid but thats opinion not fact. How much should they be paid? £5.50/h?
40k would not get me doing shift work 7 days a week. Suits some but not me
[cite]Posted By: charltonkeston[/cite]Maybe overpaid but thats opinion not fact. How much should they be paid? £5.50/h?
40k would not get me doing shift work 7 days a week. Suits some but not me
[cite]Posted By: charltonkeston[/cite]Maybe overpaid but thats opinion not fact. How much should they be paid? £5.50/h?
40k would not get me doing shift work 7 days a week. Suits some but not me
Was a trade union rep in the power industry for 4 years. Never went on strike . This wasduring the big miners strike. If Scargill had called a ballot (and won) we wouldnt have crossed the picket. He didnt.We worked through it and the rest in history. Most of my union work was health and safety stuff, had one guy get a massive electric shock , another broke his back, and another got smashed up in a dodgy lift --------safe places to work in those days !
[cite]Posted By: charltonkeston[/cite]Maybe overpaid but thats opinion not fact. How much should they be paid? £5.50/h?
40k would not get me doing shift work 7 days a week. Suits some but not me
So don't do the job?
Do you fancy doing it?
Not really, then again, unless it was a last resort I wouldnt take the job because I'm quite aware that the hours don't suit me.
What I wouldnt do is take the job, then cry like a little girl and throw my toys out of my pram demanding more money because the hours don't suit me.
Hardly true shift work is it... they don't do nights for starters!
Ask someone like CAFCKev, an ambulance technician, what he earns... his work includes night shifts, bank holidays, christmas day/boxing day for a fraction of what a tube driver gets. Really pisses me off
I work in IT. I regularly - and I do mean REGULARLY - as in every other night for the past fortnight - work throughout the night. I don't get paid time off and certainly don't get overtime for it. I also don't get a shift allowance. I don't get 43 days' leave a year either. Nor do I get a discount (let alone free) travel on the Underground for me and the wife.
They're taking the absolute piss - and every time they pull a stunt like this it just entrenches the 'Unions = piss-taking troublemakers' mindset in the public (especially younger people, who don't really have any idea of what a decent Trade Union is, does, or fights for).
Their job amounts to opening and closing doors, checking mirrors/cameras and flicking switches to say 'mind the gap'. And they want a frickin PAY RISE for that? In an economic climate where most people are shitting themselves about whether they'll even have a job to try and fight through the next tube strike to get to?
As a dyed-in-the-wool socialist since I was politically conscious - I think they're an absolute, utter disgrace.
All the people bleating about working through the night and not getting paid it, or working too long and not getting paid it the only thing I can say is "More fool You". Don't take a job that won't pay you the hours you do simple... Or failing that give Bob a call and see if you can get paid for all the work you do?
It's not as if they weren't even offered anything either.
"LU had offered staff a four-year deal of 1.5% this year and then the inflation rate plus 0.5% - or a two-year deal of 1% now and inflation plus 0.5% in year two.
However, the RMT wants a 5% pay rise and a promise of no compulsory redundancies."
Get real. All over the place people aren't getting rises, some are taking pay cuts and some are even losing their jobs, yet despite a guaranteed rise they still want to take the piss.
F*ck them. I will happily not get the tube for a day or 2 if it means we don't give in to these stupid demands.
The only thing is, if they haven't got their way this time, surely it means they'll continue to strike until they do?
i tell you what mate,i hope someday you really need a job badly and tell that to the company interviewing you.Complete and utter plank.You want to try employing people it's bloody hard work.
I don't want to see people lose there jobs lets get this straight. But the people that are losing their jobs are in industries that are having to cut costs because they're going tits up. I don't think anyone that gets the tube everyday has noticed a drastic fall in travellers because I certainly haven't. Like I said I'm not happy about people losing jobs, it's horrible. But all I'm saying is the tube is an essential mode of transport for a lot of people so the demand for it is high so thats why they have the power to strike in the way that they do.
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im sure theres a typo in there somewhere else i would say what ungrateful b'stards!
That should, of course, have read 10 grand a YEAR.
Doughnut!
London Underground song
How the hell can these people be DEMANDING payrises for future years when almost every other person is crapping themselves about losing their jobs.
Whoever it was that suggested sacking the lot of em and replacing them with people currently out of work, cracking idea.
I have to recruit new Lorry drivers and the amount of quality people out of work amazes me i wish i could take all of them on sometimes,
These people should eat humble pie and accept they are on a good thing
True...
Not all lines yet
Northern soon
District, Bakerloo, Met, Circle, Picc & Vic
40k would not get me doing shift work 7 days a week. Suits some but not me
So don't do the job?
Do you fancy doing it?
Not really, then again, unless it was a last resort I wouldnt take the job because I'm quite aware that the hours don't suit me.
What I wouldnt do is take the job, then cry like a little girl and throw my toys out of my pram demanding more money because the hours don't suit me.
Greedy scumbags, plain and simple.
Ask someone like CAFCKev, an ambulance technician, what he earns... his work includes night shifts, bank holidays, christmas day/boxing day for a fraction of what a tube driver gets. Really pisses me off
Free childcare, free transport, 40 days holiday a year... seems a decent gig if you can get it.
They're taking the absolute piss - and every time they pull a stunt like this it just entrenches the 'Unions = piss-taking troublemakers' mindset in the public (especially younger people, who don't really have any idea of what a decent Trade Union is, does, or fights for).
Their job amounts to opening and closing doors, checking mirrors/cameras and flicking switches to say 'mind the gap'. And they want a frickin PAY RISE for that? In an economic climate where most people are shitting themselves about whether they'll even have a job to try and fight through the next tube strike to get to?
As a dyed-in-the-wool socialist since I was politically conscious - I think they're an absolute, utter disgrace.
"LU had offered staff a four-year deal of 1.5% this year and then the inflation rate plus 0.5% - or a two-year deal of 1% now and inflation plus 0.5% in year two.
However, the RMT wants a 5% pay rise and a promise of no compulsory redundancies."
Get real. All over the place people aren't getting rises, some are taking pay cuts and some are even losing their jobs, yet despite a guaranteed rise they still want to take the piss.
F*ck them. I will happily not get the tube for a day or 2 if it means we don't give in to these stupid demands.
The only thing is, if they haven't got their way this time, surely it means they'll continue to strike until they do?
I'm sure people will be falling over themselves to employ you with that attitude!
Out of interest what job do you do?