got to go soon................ i have to hoover the carpet and do the washing up, my mrs will be home soon, and if she thinks there is going to be any hanky panky... !!!
Tennis - look at the time they play - a lot of people get paid per hour and the women’s game in general takes the same time to play as the men’s game due to the number of aces V rallies.
[cite]Posted By: nolly[/cite]whats your view on my boxing one Leroy?
Exactly the same as yours. If they want to add women's boxing (no problem with that) then it shouldn't be to the detriment of one of the men's weights.
There may be an argument about womens tennis. As I understand it the leading womens players are not against going to five sets, its the Tournament Authorities that are against it.
It doesn't change for one iota, the issue about the assistant referee and the clear sexism that was demonstrated by Keys and Gray.
You can take what I think is Chirpy's line that men are from Mars and women are from Venus and that girls shouldn't come anywhere near the male professional football game. I think that is wrong in principle and also in reality.
We have already had a debate on here about Emma the women commentator on our games. That was hijacked by some peoples prejudices and sexism. The stuff about whether she was "fit" and ironing were trotted out. In the end, I think most on here would agree that people should be judged on what they do, not who they are.
Women have positions of authority over men in all other walks of life so why not in football. The test is the same one that should apply, namely can they do the job effectively and we saw over the weekend that they can.
Women football officials will probably be rubbish - the only thing is, we know the male ones ARE rubbish. So good luck to them I say - sexist attitudes within the game may hinder to some extent but could also help in other ways - players may be more respectful to female officials for example.
I mean come on there perfect for the job ....... they have eyes in the back of there head, they remember bloody everything and they know "by some mystical power" when your lying, all the credentials for a decent ref!!!
[cite]Posted By: bingaddick[/cite]There may be an argument about womens tennis. As I understand it the leading womens players are not against going to five sets, its the Tournament Authorities that are against it.
Might be useful to have a separate thread as this issue is interesting in its own right.
Correct re the Tournament Authorities. Women playing shorter matches also allows them more time to participate in money earning doubles game. But the average female tournament tennis player, when training hours and costs etc were all taken into account, earnt about 4% more overall than her male tournament counterpart. Not a vast amount, but nevertheless, on the equality of pay issue there is a case to be made that women should also play 5 sets.
[cite]Posted By: Bubble[/cite]I mean come on there perfect for the job ....... they have eyes in the back of there head, they remember bloody everything and they know "by some mystical power" when your lying, all the credentials for a decent ref!!!
[cite]Posted By: nolly[/cite]whats your view on my boxing one Leroy?
Exactly the same as yours. If they want to add women's boxing (no problem with that) then it shouldn't be to the detriment of one of the men's weights.
all silly sports decided on points such as ice skating, gymnastics, diving and boxing should be removed from the Olympics.
she made a very good decision for the goal and i think there was a chance soon after, that she flagged offside for, that liverpool missed and got that one wrong ...... not 100% on that cos was trying to get out the door for our game
anyway good luck to her and anyone who has to officiate a game full of gobby twats that play football .... without the officials the game doesn't just happen FACT
[cite]Posted By: stilladdicted[/cite]Might be useful to have a separate thread as this issue is interesting in its own right.
Correct re the Tournament Authorities. Women playing shorter matches also allows them more time to participate in money earning doubles game. But the average female tournament tennis player, when training hours and costs etc were all taken into account, earnt about 4% more overall than her male tournament counterpart. Not a vast amount, but nevertheless, on the equality of pay issue there is a case to be made that women should also play 5 sets.
There is an issue here about equal pay, the problem is over the years, in pretty much every other walk of life, the issue is about the inequality of womens pay to mens. This stands out because it is unusual.
The more officials to pick from, the more rubbish ones will be out of a job so the standard will undoubtably improve if there were more women officials.
[cite]Posted By: carly burn[/cite]Haven't had time to read all the posts on this but it has the smell of a stitch up to me.Sky trying to cull a couple of dinosaurs.
I see the BBC are lapping it up.Wish they'd follow suit and do the bloody same with messrs Hansen, Lawrenson and Lineker.
I think punditry on sky, the beeb and ITV has become very stale and predictable, with all of them on their own ego fest. It is about time the tv companies worked this out and brought some new faces in to add freshness to their boring presentation.
I know i'm setting myself up to be well and truely whacked with the "sexist" hammer but why are women officiating in a competition they can't enter as players? Womens football has become big enough for enough games for them to ref/run the line.
I know alot will argue that there are men officiating womens football but thats purely down to the lack of female referee's. And every time one of them gets a few good marks, they get delusions of grandure and want to step into the mens game.
So girls, know your place (no, not the kitchen) and help to promote the women's game instead.
Next thing you know, we'll have women commentators next........oops, too late. And i bet there's someone here who thinks they're good at it as well.
[cite]Posted By: tangoflash[/cite]I know i'm setting myself up to be well and truely whacked with the "sexist" hammer but why are women officiating in a competition they can't enter as players? Womens football has become big enough for enough games for them to ref/run the line.
Why does it matter? The ball is the same the pitch is the same, the rules are the same and the sanctions are same. It shouldn't make any difference. Men should be able to officiate in women's games and vice versa.
[cite]Posted By: tangoflash[/cite]I know i'm setting myself up to be well and truely whacked with the "sexist" hammer but why are women officiating in a competition they can't enter as players? Womens football has become big enough for enough games for them to ref/run the line.
Why does it matter? The ball is the same the pitch is the same, the rules are the same and the sanctions are same. It shouldn't make any difference. Men should be able to officiate in women's games and vice versa.
Totally agree...i just dont get what all the fuss is about
[cite]Posted By: tangoflash[/cite]I know i'm setting myself up to be well and truely whacked with the "sexist" hammer but why are women officiating in a competition they can't enter as players? Womens football has become big enough for enough games for them to ref/run the line.
Men should be able to officiate in women's games and vice versa.
Ive been begging the Olympic committee to give me the women's beach volleyball gig on that basis for ages but the miserable bunchwont budge.
[cite]Posted By: tangoflash[/cite]I know i'm setting myself up to be well and truely whacked with the "sexist" hammer but why are women officiating in a competition they can't enter as players? Womens football has become big enough for enough games for them to ref/run the line.
I know alot will argue that there are men officiating womens football but thats purely down to the lack of female referee's. And every time one of them gets a few good marks, they get delusions of grandure and want to step into the mens game.
So girls, know your place (no, not the kitchen) and help to promote the women's game instead.
Next thing you know, we'll have women commentators next........oops, too late. And i bet there's someone here who thinks they're good at it as well.
totally agree ...................actually so does my mrs he he............. so it must be right
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Lost your bottle?
Nice try but I don't think that is a FACT.
she has a point....
I personally have no problem with female officials in football, as long as they are good enough (which this lass ovbiously was) then good luck to them
It doesn't change for one iota, the issue about the assistant referee and the clear sexism that was demonstrated by Keys and Gray.
You can take what I think is Chirpy's line that men are from Mars and women are from Venus and that girls shouldn't come anywhere near the male professional football game. I think that is wrong in principle and also in reality.
We have already had a debate on here about Emma the women commentator on our games. That was hijacked by some peoples prejudices and sexism. The stuff about whether she was "fit" and ironing were trotted out. In the end, I think most on here would agree that people should be judged on what they do, not who they are.
Women have positions of authority over men in all other walks of life so why not in football. The test is the same one that should apply, namely can they do the job effectively and we saw over the weekend that they can.
Res ipsa loquitur.
Might be useful to have a separate thread as this issue is interesting in its own right.
Correct re the Tournament Authorities. Women playing shorter matches also allows them more time to participate in money earning doubles game. But the average female tournament tennis player, when training hours and costs etc were all taken into account, earnt about 4% more overall than her male tournament counterpart. Not a vast amount, but nevertheless, on the equality of pay issue there is a case to be made that women should also play 5 sets.
hahaha comment of the thread I think
all silly sports decided on points such as ice skating, gymnastics, diving and boxing should be removed from the Olympics.
Waste of time.
anyway good luck to her and anyone who has to officiate a game full of gobby twats that play football .... without the officials the game doesn't just happen FACT
There is an issue here about equal pay, the problem is over the years, in pretty much every other walk of life, the issue is about the inequality of womens pay to mens. This stands out because it is unusual.
there speaks an experienced linesman.
I think punditry on sky, the beeb and ITV has become very stale and predictable, with all of them on their own ego fest. It is about time the tv companies worked this out and brought some new faces in to add freshness to their boring presentation.
Ron Atkinson and Rodney Marsh I believe...........
live from the ground rather than their studio with all the gadgets!!
:-) very good!
Had his eye on the Gray job for a while.
I know alot will argue that there are men officiating womens football but thats purely down to the lack of female referee's. And every time one of them gets a few good marks, they get delusions of grandure and want to step into the mens game.
So girls, know your place (no, not the kitchen) and help to promote the women's game instead.
Next thing you know, we'll have women commentators next........oops, too late. And i bet there's someone here who thinks they're good at it as well.
Why does it matter? The ball is the same the pitch is the same, the rules are the same and the sanctions are same. It shouldn't make any difference. Men should be able to officiate in women's games and vice versa.
Totally agree...i just dont get what all the fuss is about
Ive been begging the Olympic committee to give me the women's beach volleyball gig on that basis for ages but the miserable bunchwont budge.
totally agree ...................actually so does my mrs he he............. so it must be right
Skip to 57 seconds, the annoying transfer tit is in on it as well.
Hopefully he gets sacked, not just because of this but he is a terrible pundit/commentator.