On first viewing I was not overly impressed but our goalkeeping team have long been admirers of him so I'm confident he will be a good acquisition. I though he looked quite nervous yesterday. First game at The Valley ? Confident he'll come good.
Lots of debate on here when Hamer left as to whether Pope was up to this standard yet. We've since signed a keeper who has a proven track record at this level. Now Pope has a chance to cause Bob a real headache. I for one hope he does..................
I was always for giving Pope a shout before Henderson was signed but clearly the whole season rests on the first ten games so the club chose to manage the risk. I can't see another permanent signing so a lot depends on how long Henderson is out. Given we have two games vs Derby and two winnable away games it will be interesting to see how this pans out.
As Henderson is injured for the time being, may be it would be good to give Phillips a chance against Derby, he's been at our academy since about under 11's may be for longer. I was fighting for a place with him when I was on a 6 week trial at the academy as a GK, needless to say he was the better keeper! Look forward to seeing him and Pope in action in the forthcoming games
As Henderson is injured for the time being, may be it would be good to give Phillips a chance against Derby, he's been at our academy since about under 11's may be for longer. I was fighting for a place with him when I was on a 6 week trial at the academy as a GK, needless to say he was the better keeper! Look forward to seeing him and Pope in action in the forthcoming games
No to giving him a chance vs Derby. That will come in the cup. Pope is established as second choice and deserves the chance to cement his spot as first team keeper. Phillips will get there but isn't ready just yet - definitely not against a team like Derby.
Firstly, it wasn't Henderson's first game at The Valley for Charlton. He played on Tuesday !
Secondly, of course we are not going to play, Phillips before Pope.
Thirdly, how anyone can say definitively, that Pope is better than Henderson, is just plain crass. You've never seen Pope play a full Championship game and probably only seen Henderson play a maximum of 3 championship games.
Fourthly, how anyone can say Henderson isn't looking good is ridiculous. He's hardly had to do anything, so there's no way you can really judge. I admit that his kicking has been poor. He's had enough kicks to be able to say that, but then so was Kiely's and he was our best goalkeeper in my lifetime.
Tbh it's probably, not such a bad thing that Henderson is out for a few games (probably).
It gives Pope an opportunity, without having to select him ahead of Henderson. We can see how he performs and if he does really well, it's up to Henderson to win his place back.
My only concern with Pope apart from the fact he took out two Wigan is he still needs to bulk up and I do think given half a chance he will get roughed up by some hairy arsed forwards, but let's give him some games and see.
My only concern with Pope apart from the fact he took out two Wigan is he still needs to bulk up and I do think given half a chance he will get roughed up by some hairy arsed forwards, but let's give him some games and see.
Not sure that Bikey would agree with that;-) But, yes, at the moment he does look a bit stick insect like, but he's got a whole lot of guts. I would love to see him come good.
My only concern with Pope apart from the fact he took out two Wigan is he still needs to bulk up and I do think given half a chance he will get roughed up by some hairy arsed forwards, but let's give him some games and see.
Not sure that Bikey would agree with that;-) But, yes, at the moment he does look a bit stick insect like, but he's got a whole lot of guts. I would love to see him come good.
He does. But so did Van Der Saar at Man U, who was one of the best.
Rotten luck for Henderson, who looks a decent keeper, but it opens the door to Nick Pope. My gut feeling (and it is no more than that) is that he may prove difficult to dislodge.
I agree. For some reason I feel Pope will come in and make it difficult to drop him. Sometimes these things happen. I would have liked Pope to start as number one with an experienced back up and was slightly disappointed when Henderson signed. Will be interesting to see how this pans out over the season.
Some of the shit on here is just weird. Against brentford his handling and distribution was fine and had no shots to save. Same against Colchester. He wasn't even that bad against Wigan one of his poor pass outs was Ben haims fault, Henderson had the ball at his feet and was waiting for TBH to move out wide and show for the ball but he didn't he just waved his hands in the air to say pass it to him central which would have been worse as a Wigan player was closing him down. He played it wide tbh didn't move and we was in trouble. I liked Hamer but let's wait until Henderson has made as many clangers as him before we write him off.
Think Henderson will be fine but pleased Pope has got a chance and think he will seize it.
On the subject of distribution, at one point Pope kicked it long to our right wing - I commented it was like a rugby kick. Caused chaos among Wigan defenders, and we got a corner. Big Bad Bob broke into a huge grin and gave Pope the thumbs up.
Didnt Pope have the ball in his hands at one point against Fleetwood (in the Play-Offs), tried throwing long to a team-mate and it went straight to the opposition Goalkeeper?
Some of the shit on here is just weird. Against brentford his handling and distribution was fine and had no shots to save. Same against Colchester. He wasn't even that bad against Wigan one of his poor pass outs was Ben haims fault, Henderson had the ball at his feet and was waiting for TBH to move out wide and show for the ball but he didn't he just waved his hands in the air to say pass it to him central which would have been worse as a Wigan player was closing him down. He played it wide tbh didn't move and we was in trouble. I liked Hamer but let's wait until Henderson has made as many clangers as him before we write him off.
He made a great save against Brentford where we got down and tipped one round the post in the 2nd half.
My only concern with Pope apart from the fact he took out two Wigan is he still needs to bulk up and I do think given half a chance he will get roughed up by some hairy arsed forwards, but let's give him some games and see.
Plenty of hairy arsed forwards in L2, he came through that test brilliantly last season. Reading some comments from his time at York, he seems very commanding in the box, never flinches from coming off his line...as we saw on Saturday.
He is untried, and hence a gamble, but surely deserves a chance if Hendo is out. Would have preferred him to have played against Colchester to get his season up & running, but at least he's had some minutes.
My only concern with Pope apart from the fact he took out two Wigan is he still needs to bulk up and I do think given half a chance he will get roughed up by some hairy arsed forwards, but let's give him some games and see.
The handbook suggests that he is only a stone lighter than Bikey. And the same weight as Henderson. If he puts on any more weight he'll sink into the pitch!
Saw Phillips and Pope play in Belgium and imo Phillips was as good if not better.
Saw Phillips play at Billericay and I wouldn't want him anywhere near the first team on that performance which maybe just indicates you can't tell much from a quick showing in pre-season.
Some of the shit on here is just weird. Against brentford his handling and distribution was fine and had no shots to save. Same against Colchester. He wasn't even that bad against Wigan one of his poor pass outs was Ben haims fault, Henderson had the ball at his feet and was waiting for TBH to move out wide and show for the ball but he didn't he just waved his hands in the air to say pass it to him central which would have been worse as a Wigan player was closing him down. He played it wide tbh didn't move and we was in trouble. I liked Hamer but let's wait until Henderson has made as many clangers as him before we write him off.
He made a great save against Brentford where we got down and tipped one round the post in the 2nd half.
Yes your right totally forgot about that one. That was a cracking save too.
Not seen enough of him to judge his ability but Henderson does look a little "heavy" to me. He may not have been fully fit from the off.
As for Pope all I've seen of him are his two sub appearances so again too early to judge fully. He does seem to want to command his area though which I like.
Even if Henderson is out for a month I would rather our resources and recruitment focus stays on an 8 and 9. Pope deserves his chance and Phillips can cover for a game if needed. No point in getting someone in over Pope at this stage. Looking forward to seeing how he gets on.
My only concern with Pope apart from the fact he took out two Wigan is he still needs to bulk up and I do think given half a chance he will get roughed up by some hairy arsed forwards, but let's give him some games and see.
The handbook suggests that he is only a stone lighter than Bikey. And the same weight as Henderson. If he puts on any more weight he'll sink into the pitch!
Blimey, heavy bones me thinks!!! Planning to get home and study the player stats now!!
The handbook also says Igor is 14st. Thought he looked nowhere near that on Sat. On the website Igor's weight is 11st, much more like it. Think they put his shirt number in handbook rather than his weight. Hope Pope is not down as 30st then.
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Have high hopes for Pope though, like to see how good he. Is or can be.
I can't see another permanent signing so a lot depends on how long Henderson is out.
Given we have two games vs Derby and two winnable away games it will be interesting to see how this pans out.
Firstly, it wasn't Henderson's first game at The Valley for Charlton. He played on Tuesday !
Secondly, of course we are not going to play, Phillips before Pope.
Thirdly, how anyone can say definitively, that Pope is better than Henderson, is just plain crass. You've never seen Pope play a full Championship game and probably only seen Henderson play a maximum of 3 championship games.
Fourthly, how anyone can say Henderson isn't looking good is ridiculous. He's hardly had to do anything, so there's no way you can really judge. I admit that his kicking has been poor. He's had enough kicks to be able to say that, but then so was Kiely's and he was our best goalkeeper in my lifetime.
Tbh it's probably, not such a bad thing that Henderson is out for a few games (probably).
It gives Pope an opportunity, without having to select him ahead of Henderson. We can see how he performs and if he does really well, it's up to Henderson to win his place back.
On the subject of distribution, at one point Pope kicked it long to our right wing - I commented it was like a rugby kick. Caused chaos among Wigan defenders, and we got a corner. Big Bad Bob broke into a huge grin and gave Pope the thumbs up.
He is untried, and hence a gamble, but surely deserves a chance if Hendo is out. Would have preferred him to have played against Colchester to get his season up & running, but at least he's had some minutes.
Saw Phillips play at Billericay and I wouldn't want him anywhere near the first team on that performance which maybe just indicates you can't tell much from a quick showing in pre-season.
As for Pope all I've seen of him are his two sub appearances so again too early to judge fully. He does seem to want to command his area though which I like.