Just go back a page or two and see comments after the Man Utd / Napoli games
But he deserves the chance to be in a 26 man squad especially with James potentially out. See above re Maguire's form. It's all about confidence and Gomez has enough games between now and the World Cup to prove that it has returned.
Not sure he does yet, he's had one or two decent games all season. He needs to carry on this form before he even enters Southgate's thinking. Even with James out you'd expect Tripper and TAA to be the two right backs. It could well be White and Gomez fighting for one spot.
Who are these centre backs that are ahead of him though ?
Probably Stones, Maguire, Dier and then maybe Tomori and Coady
If that's the case then we have no chance because Maguire, Dier, Tomori and Coady aren't that good.
Maguire has been very good for England and Tomori is doing well in Milan. Can't say I disagree about Dier or Coady. Our CB's in general aren't that good to be honest, we're behind at least 6/7 teams in that area.
Dier always seems to get slated but he must be doing something right to be a regular for a top 4/top 6 side for the past 7-8 seasons.
Just go back a page or two and see comments after the Man Utd / Napoli games
But he deserves the chance to be in a 26 man squad especially with James potentially out. See above re Maguire's form. It's all about confidence and Gomez has enough games between now and the World Cup to prove that it has returned.
Not sure he does yet, he's had one or two decent games all season. He needs to carry on this form before he even enters Southgate's thinking. Even with James out you'd expect Tripper and TAA to be the two right backs. It could well be White and Gomez fighting for one spot.
Who are these centre backs that are ahead of him though ?
Probably Stones, Maguire, Dier and then maybe Tomori and Coady
If that's the case then we have no chance because Maguire, Dier, Tomori and Coady aren't that good.
Maguire has been very good for England and Tomori is doing well in Milan. Can't say I disagree about Dier or Coady. Our CB's in general aren't that good to be honest, we're behind at least 6/7 teams in that area.
Dier always seems to get slated but he must be doing something right to be a regular for a top 4/top 6 side for the past 7-8 seasons.
I don’t mind Dier but he’s not top class for me. Always has a mistake in him. I think CB is a bit of a weakness for us, he wouldn’t have been entering conversations in the past, I think it’s more how our quality has fallen than his form putting himself into contention.
Just go back a page or two and see comments after the Man Utd / Napoli games
But he deserves the chance to be in a 26 man squad especially with James potentially out. See above re Maguire's form. It's all about confidence and Gomez has enough games between now and the World Cup to prove that it has returned.
Not sure he does yet, he's had one or two decent games all season. He needs to carry on this form before he even enters Southgate's thinking. Even with James out you'd expect Tripper and TAA to be the two right backs. It could well be White and Gomez fighting for one spot.
Who are these centre backs that are ahead of him though ?
Probably Stones, Maguire, Dier and then maybe Tomori and Coady
If that's the case then we have no chance because Maguire, Dier, Tomori and Coady aren't that good.
Maguire has been very good for England and Tomori is doing well in Milan. Can't say I disagree about Dier or Coady. Our CB's in general aren't that good to be honest, we're behind at least 6/7 teams in that area.
Dier always seems to get slated but he must be doing something right to be a regular for a top 4/top 6 side for the past 7-8 seasons.
I don’t mind Dier but he’s not top class for me. Always has a mistake in him. I think CB is a bit of a weakness for us, he wouldn’t have been entering conversations in the past, I think it’s more how our quality has fallen than his form putting himself into contention.
Not sure he makes many mistakes.. He is just 6-7 out of 10 every week. I wouldn't mind Dier starting alongside Stones, pretty solid pairing, bit of pace as well.
Just go back a page or two and see comments after the Man Utd / Napoli games
But he deserves the chance to be in a 26 man squad especially with James potentially out. See above re Maguire's form. It's all about confidence and Gomez has enough games between now and the World Cup to prove that it has returned.
Not sure he does yet, he's had one or two decent games all season. He needs to carry on this form before he even enters Southgate's thinking. Even with James out you'd expect Tripper and TAA to be the two right backs. It could well be White and Gomez fighting for one spot.
Who are these centre backs that are ahead of him though ?
Probably Stones, Maguire, Dier and then maybe Tomori and Coady
If that's the case then we have no chance because Maguire, Dier, Tomori and Coady aren't that good.
Maguire has been very good for England and Tomori is doing well in Milan. Can't say I disagree about Dier or Coady. Our CB's in general aren't that good to be honest, we're behind at least 6/7 teams in that area.
Dier always seems to get slated but he must be doing something right to be a regular for a top 4/top 6 side for the past 7-8 seasons.
I don’t mind Dier but he’s not top class for me. Always has a mistake in him. I think CB is a bit of a weakness for us, he wouldn’t have been entering conversations in the past, I think it’s more how our quality has fallen than his form putting himself into contention.
He's not top class in the bracket of Ferdinand or Terry or Campbell but the very fact he's a regular for Spurs and plays in Europe every season for me gives him the nod over someone like Coady or Guehi. I'd also feel far more confident with him playing than i would Maguire who a) isn't playing for his club and b) his confidence is shot to pieces.
It's just unfortunate that at a time when we've got so many good young attacking players (and right backs), we've got a real lack of quality centre backs.
Just go back a page or two and see comments after the Man Utd / Napoli games
But he deserves the chance to be in a 26 man squad especially with James potentially out. See above re Maguire's form. It's all about confidence and Gomez has enough games between now and the World Cup to prove that it has returned.
Not sure he does yet, he's had one or two decent games all season. He needs to carry on this form before he even enters Southgate's thinking. Even with James out you'd expect Tripper and TAA to be the two right backs. It could well be White and Gomez fighting for one spot.
Who are these centre backs that are ahead of him though ?
Probably Stones, Maguire, Dier and then maybe Tomori and Coady
If that's the case then we have no chance because Maguire, Dier, Tomori and Coady aren't that good.
Maguire has been very good for England and Tomori is doing well in Milan. Can't say I disagree about Dier or Coady. Our CB's in general aren't that good to be honest, we're behind at least 6/7 teams in that area.
Dier always seems to get slated but he must be doing something right to be a regular for a top 4/top 6 side for the past 7-8 seasons.
I don’t mind Dier but he’s not top class for me. Always has a mistake in him. I think CB is a bit of a weakness for us, he wouldn’t have been entering conversations in the past, I think it’s more how our quality has fallen than his form putting himself into contention.
He's not top class in the bracket of Ferdinand or Terry or Campbell but the very fact he's a regular for Spurs and plays in Europe every season for me gives him the nod over someone like Coady or Guehi. I'd also feel far more confident with him playing than i would Maguire who a) isn't playing for his club and b) his confidence is shot to pieces.
It's just unfortunate that at a time when we've got so many good young attacking players (and right backs), we've got a real lack of quality centre backs.
Agreed, I’d definitely have him over Coady. Not a huge fan of Guehi from what I’ve seen, although he’s got plenty of time to develop. Not sure about Maguire, tough because he has generally been good for England.
Just go back a page or two and see comments after the Man Utd / Napoli games
But he deserves the chance to be in a 26 man squad especially with James potentially out. See above re Maguire's form. It's all about confidence and Gomez has enough games between now and the World Cup to prove that it has returned.
Not sure he does yet, he's had one or two decent games all season. He needs to carry on this form before he even enters Southgate's thinking. Even with James out you'd expect Tripper and TAA to be the two right backs. It could well be White and Gomez fighting for one spot.
Who are these centre backs that are ahead of him though ?
Probably Stones, Maguire, Dier and then maybe Tomori and Coady
If that's the case then we have no chance because Maguire, Dier, Tomori and Coady aren't that good.
Maguire has been very good for England and Tomori is doing well in Milan. Can't say I disagree about Dier or Coady. Our CB's in general aren't that good to be honest, we're behind at least 6/7 teams in that area.
Dier always seems to get slated but he must be doing something right to be a regular for a top 4/top 6 side for the past 7-8 seasons.
I don’t mind Dier but he’s not top class for me. Always has a mistake in him. I think CB is a bit of a weakness for us, he wouldn’t have been entering conversations in the past, I think it’s more how our quality has fallen than his form putting himself into contention.
He's not top class in the bracket of Ferdinand or Terry or Campbell but the very fact he's a regular for Spurs and plays in Europe every season for me gives him the nod over someone like Coady or Guehi. I'd also feel far more confident with him playing than i would Maguire who a) isn't playing for his club and b) his confidence is shot to pieces.
It's just unfortunate that at a time when we've got so many good young attacking players (and right backs), we've got a real lack of quality centre backs.
Just go back a page or two and see comments after the Man Utd / Napoli games
But he deserves the chance to be in a 26 man squad especially with James potentially out. See above re Maguire's form. It's all about confidence and Gomez has enough games between now and the World Cup to prove that it has returned.
Not sure he does yet, he's had one or two decent games all season. He needs to carry on this form before he even enters Southgate's thinking. Even with James out you'd expect Tripper and TAA to be the two right backs. It could well be White and Gomez fighting for one spot.
Who are these centre backs that are ahead of him though ?
Probably Stones, Maguire, Dier and then maybe Tomori and Coady
If that's the case then we have no chance because Maguire, Dier, Tomori and Coady aren't that good.
Maguire has been very good for England and Tomori is doing well in Milan. Can't say I disagree about Dier or Coady. Our CB's in general aren't that good to be honest, we're behind at least 6/7 teams in that area.
Dier always seems to get slated but he must be doing something right to be a regular for a top 4/top 6 side for the past 7-8 seasons.
I don’t mind Dier but he’s not top class for me. Always has a mistake in him. I think CB is a bit of a weakness for us, he wouldn’t have been entering conversations in the past, I think it’s more how our quality has fallen than his form putting himself into contention.
He's not top class in the bracket of Ferdinand or Terry or Campbell but the very fact he's a regular for Spurs and plays in Europe every season for me gives him the nod over someone like Coady or Guehi. I'd also feel far more confident with him playing than i would Maguire who a) isn't playing for his club and b) his confidence is shot to pieces.
It's just unfortunate that at a time when we've got so many good young attacking players (and right backs), we've got a real lack of quality centre backs.
Campbell would have got a lot more caps if he wasn’t black - so he says anyway
Yeah, England only gave him 73 caps so clearly there was racism at play!
Mind you, Campbell probably also thinks he should've been Prime Minister too and it's all everyone else's fault that he wasn't!
I believe so too. Liverpool will be in a position of wanting to keep Joe, especially with VVD now suspended and a mini CB crisis at the club. He played very well against Newcastle.
Don’t understand why joe would go to Saudi. Still hasn’t really established himself 100% at Liverpool and would surely want to prove he’s a top prem defender. Otherwise he’d be wondering what if for the rest of his life. Plenty of time to make his millions in Saudi or the USA later on in his career
Don’t understand why joe would go to Saudi. Still hasn’t really established himself 100% at Liverpool and would surely want to prove he’s a top prem defender. Otherwise he’d be wondering what if for the rest of his life. Plenty of time to make his millions in Saudi or the USA later on in his career
Yeah, why would an injury prone player who has not established himself at his club move to Saudi Arabia for untold riches ?
Don’t understand why joe would go to Saudi. Still hasn’t really established himself 100% at Liverpool and would surely want to prove he’s a top prem defender. Otherwise he’d be wondering what if for the rest of his life. Plenty of time to make his millions in Saudi or the USA later on in his career
I think in the past 3 seasons he's proved he's not a top Prem defender if anything. Way too injury prone and made too many mistakes. People keep saying he needs to capitalise on the fact they have a defensive crisis, but the last times they've had these crisis' he's been one of the injured parties. I'd argue Konsa is a more established centre back than Gomez now, and would probably pick him for England ahead of Joe
Don’t understand why joe would go to Saudi. Still hasn’t really established himself 100% at Liverpool and would surely want to prove he’s a top prem defender. Otherwise he’d be wondering what if for the rest of his life. Plenty of time to make his millions in Saudi or the USA later on in his career
Same reason everyone else is going there of course.
The thing with Gomez is you never know if he's a game away from another long term (and possibly career ending) injury. If he's offered silly money for 2-3 years he'd be mad not to take it.
Don’t understand why joe would go to Saudi. Still hasn’t really established himself 100% at Liverpool and would surely want to prove he’s a top prem defender. Otherwise he’d be wondering what if for the rest of his life. Plenty of time to make his millions in Saudi or the USA later on in his career
Same reason everyone else is going there of course.
The thing with Gomez is you never know if he's a game away from another long term (and possibly career ending) injury. If he's offered silly money for 2-3 years he'd be mad not to take it.
I thought he has just signed a 5 year contract with Liverpool
Don’t understand why joe would go to Saudi. Still hasn’t really established himself 100% at Liverpool and would surely want to prove he’s a top prem defender. Otherwise he’d be wondering what if for the rest of his life. Plenty of time to make his millions in Saudi or the USA later on in his career
Same reason everyone else is going there of course.
The thing with Gomez is you never know if he's a game away from another long term (and possibly career ending) injury. If he's offered silly money for 2-3 years he'd be mad not to take it.
I thought he has just signed a 5 year contract with Liverpool
Last year yes, up to 2027, and he earns (i think) around 75-85k a week.
But if Saudi offered him something silly like 250-300k a week for 3 years then he'd surely be off.
Don’t understand why joe would go to Saudi. Still hasn’t really established himself 100% at Liverpool and would surely want to prove he’s a top prem defender. Otherwise he’d be wondering what if for the rest of his life. Plenty of time to make his millions in Saudi or the USA later on in his career
Same reason everyone else is going there of course.
The thing with Gomez is you never know if he's a game away from another long term (and possibly career ending) injury. If he's offered silly money for 2-3 years he'd be mad not to take it.
I thought he has just signed a 5 year contract with Liverpool
As with all such contracts, they are a two way street - they give the player the certainty of being at a top club for a number of years but also enable the club to demand more and ensure that there isn't a forced sale as in the case of Kane. We've been there ourselves albeit on a smaller scale with "frees" such as the likes of Grant and Taylor. Chelsea have adopted offering 8 year contracts to get around FFP but by the same token they don't have to worry about a player coming to the end of theirs. Although I'm sure that a Winston Bogarde type situation really would leave them with egg on their faces - he didn't make a single PL appearance in his final three seasons at the Club and surely wishes it had been half a dozen years instead!
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It's just unfortunate that at a time when we've got so many good young attacking players (and right backs), we've got a real lack of quality centre backs.
only saw the foul that led to the free kick for Forest goal
Yeah, England only gave him 73 caps so clearly there was racism at play!
Mind you, Campbell probably also thinks he should've been Prime Minister too and it's all everyone else's fault that he wasn't!
From a club perspective, is our sell-on fee a fixed percentage?
The thing with Gomez is you never know if he's a game away from another long term (and possibly career ending) injury. If he's offered silly money for 2-3 years he'd be mad not to take it.
The money will go to the shambles destroying our club.
But if Saudi offered him something silly like 250-300k a week for 3 years then he'd surely be off.