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Charlton Life Poll for election
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How could that be possible when the proposed top rate is only 50%?DamoNorthStand said:
So you think I should lose more than half my earnings in take home?ShootersHillGuru said:
YesDamoNorthStand said:
THIS 100%. Are there any Labour supporters out there who STILL feel higher earners are not taxed enough?Southendaddick said:Someone's bought a copy of the Mirror today eh algarve
I can testify that Cameron definitely is making higher earners more than pay their way.
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I did wonder why you would be asking for my credit card details!AFKABartram said:You're not on BabeStation now @Red_in_SE8
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It's all about voting for who is best for you. For you its Tories for me it's labour. I do however think that if everyone used this formula labour would come out on top.DamoNorthStand said:
Post was in response to SHG stating that people in the £100-150k bracket dont pay enough tax. Paying more means over 50% hence why I asked if anyone thought that was fair.sadiejane1981 said:
No! But I don't think the poorest in society should be left to die either. XDamoNorthStand said:
So you think I should lose more than half my earnings in take home?ShootersHillGuru said:
YesDamoNorthStand said:
THIS 100%. Are there any Labour supporters out there who STILL feel higher earners are not taxed enough?Southendaddick said:Someone's bought a copy of the Mirror today eh algarve
I can testify that Cameron definitely is making higher earners more than pay their way.
On my desk is a picture of my two kids. Not a picture of half the UK. I have fought for success for my childrens future. I accept that I pay into a pot to support the country we live in - but there is a bloody limit.
Thats why I am so passionate about this election. And thats why selling the home, taking the equity and savings, and taking it away from the UK would be a serious option. That's my kids future.
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No - my point being that I said I and others shouldn't pay more than half. Someone said I should - which is what I challenged. This all came from someone saying that in our tax system, high earners are already paying their fair share.Red_in_SE8 said:
How could that be possible when the proposed top rate is only 50%?DamoNorthStand said:
So you think I should lose more than half my earnings in take home?ShootersHillGuru said:
YesDamoNorthStand said:
THIS 100%. Are there any Labour supporters out there who STILL feel higher earners are not taxed enough?Southendaddick said:Someone's bought a copy of the Mirror today eh algarve
I can testify that Cameron definitely is making higher earners more than pay their way.
And anyway - 50% is despicable and makes you wonder what the point is of working hard to better your own kids only to take it away from them and give it to others.2 -
Go for a zero hours contract if your not happy.DamoNorthStand said:
No - my point being that I said I and others shouldn't pay more than half. Someone said I should - which is what I challenged. This all came from someone saying that in our tax system, high earners are already paying their fair share.Red_in_SE8 said:
How could that be possible when the proposed top rate is only 50%?DamoNorthStand said:
So you think I should lose more than half my earnings in take home?ShootersHillGuru said:
YesDamoNorthStand said:
THIS 100%. Are there any Labour supporters out there who STILL feel higher earners are not taxed enough?Southendaddick said:Someone's bought a copy of the Mirror today eh algarve
I can testify that Cameron definitely is making higher earners more than pay their way.
And anyway - 50% is despicable and makes you wonder what the point is of working hard to better your own kids only to take it away from them and give it to others.
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The CL Lib Dem vote seems to have completely collapsed from where it was 5 years ago.0
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I'd be interested to see if there was a flat rate of tax across the country, whether you earn 15k or 150k or 1500k or even more... how much that flat rate would sit at? 5%? 10%? 20? 35? 50?DamoNorthStand said:
No - my point being that I said I and others shouldn't pay more than half. Someone said I should - which is what I challenged. This all came from someone saying that in our tax system, high earners are already paying their fair share.Red_in_SE8 said:
How could that be possible when the proposed top rate is only 50%?DamoNorthStand said:
So you think I should lose more than half my earnings in take home?ShootersHillGuru said:
YesDamoNorthStand said:
THIS 100%. Are there any Labour supporters out there who STILL feel higher earners are not taxed enough?Southendaddick said:Someone's bought a copy of the Mirror today eh algarve
I can testify that Cameron definitely is making higher earners more than pay their way.
And anyway - 50% is despicable and makes you wonder what the point is of working hard to better your own kids only to take it away from them and give it to others.0 -
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Can I just say that I have recent experience of all of those things and more and it is substantially worse than it was 5 years ago. I'm genuinely petrified of snother Tory government.AFKABartram said:
blimey. have visions of Cameron riding through the villages like Henry IIIV and his cronies rape and pillaging the peasants.Algarveaddick said:
Genuinely cannot believe how many people would be happy with Cameron continuing to ride roughshod over the poorest and most vulnerable in society while doing everything he can to feather the already bulging nests of the richest. It's seriously worrying that people are unable to see that.Addickforlife said:Genuinely cannot believe how many people would be happy with Ed Milliband running the country. It's seriously worrying, and if he gets in then god help us all.
Genuine question Algarve (and i'm not digging on the living abroad front), but what exposure have you had to over the last few years to UK public services, social housing, elderly care, health, education, special needs / disability services and how much materially worse is your experience than what was on offer 10-15 years ago?
I don't support any political party and change my vote almost every election. But from the experiences i've had in all those aspects, your statement above is just ridiculous and completely blinkered. If that was actually occurring there would be widespread public uproar. It is people's general nature that they feel things have got worse / things aren't the same as they used to be. There is always more than can be done.
The main reason this election is so tight is because the opposition party havn't got enough clear evidencial arguments that the widespread public feel that the current party in power has failed on.
My experiences are the same and both my sisters work in the NHS and they can see first hand how downhill it has gone in the last five years.2 -
The sticky poll is scaring me where are all of my labour buds?
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Supporting Labour is a bit like supporting Millwall. There's a lot who like to shout about it.sadiejane1981 said:The sticky poll is scaring me where are all of my labour buds?
Supporting The Tories is a bit like supporting Charlton. There's a lot more modesty involved
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Nah they're hard at work down the mines0
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Very interested to know why?Essex_Al said:UKIP
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Says quite a lot in my opinion that people on the whole are too ashamed to own up to voting Tory or UKIP.0
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What you actually mean is the Tory voters are embarrassed to admit it.Covered End said:
Supporting Labour is a bit like supporting Millwall. There's a lot who like to shout about it.sadiejane1981 said:The sticky poll is scaring me where are all of my labour buds?
Supporting The Tories is a bit like supporting Charlton. There's a lot more modesty involved3 -
Supporting Labour is like making love to a beautiful woman.......2
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As many of you know, I was hospitalised in Dec last year. I had to stay in for 3 weeks while the NHS took GREAT care of me and have helped me stay alive. However the nurses and doctors that looked after me were knackered. Many many times nurses were starting at 7 am still there at 9 pm and back in at 6 am the following day. Why? because there were not enough nurses to cover the shifts, cleaning didn't happen if one of the 'privatised' cleaners didn't turn in because they had no replacements!! Sadly, whilst I received great care and compassion, those delivering it were out on their feet, and that's where mistakes can happen. The NHS needs more support - not less, this current government is not running the NHS as we think it is, believe me I've experienced it and I feel so sorry for those trying to keep it going. We need investment and we need many more nurses and doctors, not more privatisation.7
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The silent tories are out to play tonight..... 1992 anyone??0
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Do you think this might have something to do with (from the "Since the last election..." thread)Southendaddick said:...speaking as one of those who is now paying a fortune more in tax than I was under labour...
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Moved jobs... More than doubled my salary0 -
I've not voted. I may have gone and spoilt my paper or voted green but my motorcycle has a puncture and I'm still registered in my parents' town.
Regarding the NHS - I have an ex who is a midwife. Scores of them were leaving the job a couple of years ago because of long, long hours all day and night without breaks. They were badly under staffed and no departees were replaced. Those remaining were breaking down physically and mentally. In her case she had a mental breakdown and cut me out her life.
That is one aspect of the NHS that I know a little about. Just how bad are other areas? We all know about hospitals closing and A&E times. Do people really think Tories would suddenly change tact and make healthcare a priority? Ha.1 - Sponsored links:
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Maybe most people can't be bothered with the arguing and being wrongly judged......sadiejane1981 said:The sticky poll is scaring me where are all of my labour buds?
Nothing wrong with your poll though!
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All this NHS conservative bashing. What about the Labour controlled Welsh NHS - hardly a shining example. It seems to some like their has to be a blame, rather than it just might be outdated and broken and straining under an ageing population, increased immigration and higher health inflation. Who is to say if any other party had been in the last 4 years that the strain would not be felt exactly how it is now, because cuts needed to be made regardless of who was running the show.
My mrs is a social worker and just like the NHS they are constantly underfunded and always struggling against the tide, just like they were 5 years ago, 10 years ago and will be in 5 years time, no matter what party is in charge.2 -
Now well into my seventh decade on this planet. My grandad, God rest his soul, once told me way back in the late 1950s that the only good Tory was dead one - and if you by chance stumbled over a dead one, they had probably been stabbed in the back by their own side. Tories are merciless towards their failures. Voted today and wore the red tie with pride!7
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You've lost your right to criticise any of the parties. Unless you find a way to vote...RedPanda said:I've not voted. I may have gone and spoilt my paper or voted green but my motorcycle has a puncture and I'm still registered in my parents' town.
Regarding the NHS - I have an ex who is a midwife. Scores of them were leaving the job a couple of years ago because of long, long hours all day and night without breaks. They were badly under staffed and no departees were replaced. Those remaining were breaking down physically and mentally. In her case she had a mental breakdown and cut me out her life.
That is one aspect of the NHS that I know a little about. Just how bad are other areas? We all know about hospitals closing and A&E times. Do people really think Tories would suddenly change tact and make healthcare a priority? Ha.
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Finding it mildly amusing that the Labour suporters are flapping that much that they're resorting to saying they clicked on the wrong button coz of the colour!
Pmsl, it's only for fun and it ain't over yet, you could still win3 -
Even though the button was not coloured.brogib said:Finding it mildly amusing that the Labour suporters are flapping that much that they're resorting to saying they clicked on the wrong button coz of the colour!
Pmsl, it's only for fun and it ain't over yet, you could still win0 -
Exactly that, underhand tactics from the left, who'd a thought it eh? ; )DamoNorthStand said:
Even though the button was not coloured.brogib said:Finding it mildly amusing that the Labour suporters are flapping that much that they're resorting to saying they clicked on the wrong button coz of the colour!
Pmsl, it's only for fun and it ain't over yet, you could still win1 -
Bedsaddick said:sadiejane1981 said:
Can I just say that I have recent experience of all of those things and more and it is substantially worse than it was 5 years ago. I'm genuinely petrified of snother Tory government.AFKABartram said:
blimey. have visions of Cameron riding through the villages like Henry IIIV and his cronies rape and pillaging the peasants.Algarveaddick said:
Genuinely cannot believe how many people would be happy with Cameron continuing to ride roughshod over the poorest and most vulnerable in society while doing everything he can to feather the already bulging nests of the richest. It's seriously worrying that people are unable to see that.Addickforlife said:Genuinely cannot believe how many people would be happy with Ed Milliband running the country. It's seriously worrying, and if he gets in then god help us all.
Genuine question Algarve (and i'm not digging on the living abroad front), but what exposure have you had to over the last few years to UK public services, social housing, elderly care, health, education, special needs / disability services and how much materially worse is your experience than what was on offer 10-15 years ago?
I don't support any political party and change my vote almost every election. But from the experiences i've had in all those aspects, your statement above is just ridiculous and completely blinkered. If that was actually occurring there would be widespread public uproar. It is people's general nature that they feel things have got worse / things aren't the same as they used to be. There is always more than can be done.
The main reason this election is so tight is because the opposition party havn't got enough clear evidencial arguments that the widespread public feel that the current party in power has failed on.
My experiences are the same and both my sisters work in the NHS and they can see first hand how downhill it has gone in the last five years.
From another branch of the public sector, the thought of another round of cuts to the Prison Service is terrifying to me. Ignoring the fact that I haven't had a pay rise under this government, the cuts that the service have had to endure have resulted in a massive drop in officer numbers, massive reduction in funding to pay for rehabilitation and purposeful activity which has an impact on society as a whole. Prison closures have resulted in severe overcrowding and frustrated prisoners. Jails are bubbling and where I once felt safe going into work, there is now some trepidation. Pushing an alarm button used to result in staff attending, now you hit it and pray someone will turn up. Assaults on staff have risen dramatically and I can now see the real possibility of an officer being killed on duty. In my eyes, their blood will be on the hands of those who've been in power for the last five years.1
