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How many games has Luzon got?

And how many should he have?

Luzon has got the squad he managed to negotiate with RD,and is unlikely to get any more. If he cannot win with them,how soon will/should he be replaced?

Personally I think the squad is too thin and Luzon is partly the victim of this. But failure is failure.
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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,270
    And who in the network would you bring in to replace him?
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    would anyone be surprised to see us go back to Riga? Not me
  • Luzon is a company yes man, he probably has longer left than he should do for his meagre talent.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Xbox or playstation ones?
  • Southbank said:

    And how many should he have?

    Luzon has got the squad he managed to negotiate with RD,and is unlikely to get any more. If he cannot win with them,how soon will/should he be replaced?

    Personally I think the squad is too thin and Luzon is partly the victim of this. But failure is failure.

    Has he failed?

    We've only played 9 games in the league.

    It doesn't look good and the stories of falling out with players and unhappy players that are doing the rounds don't sound good but is that because we're on a bad run with lots of injuries.

    IMHO Luzon still has a lot to prove but he hasn't failed yet.

    As for "how many games" I don't think it works like that. RD either decides to stick with him or sack him and he could do that any time he fancies. I doubt he is setting a number of games.

    PS Nathan Jones
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,986
    If they sack Luzon I think that would be my tipping point. What's the bloody point constantly changing the players AND management every year. Joke.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    sam3110 said:

    And who in the network would you bring in to replace him?

    Fraeye hasn't had his turn yet.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600

    Southbank said:

    And how many should he have?

    Luzon has got the squad he managed to negotiate with RD,and is unlikely to get any more. If he cannot win with them,how soon will/should he be replaced?

    Personally I think the squad is too thin and Luzon is partly the victim of this. But failure is failure.

    Has he failed?

    We've only played 9 games in the league.

    It doesn't look good and the stories of falling out with players and unhappy players that are doing the rounds don't sound good but is that because we're on a bad run with lots of injuries.

    IMHO Luzon still has a lot to prove but he hasn't failed yet.

    As for "how many games" I don't think it works like that. RD either decides to stick with him or sack him and he could do that any time he fancies. I doubt he is setting a number of games.

    PS Nathan Jones
    Think you're bang on the money there.
  • You can't sack a manager after one bad run. For Christ's sake.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    Not a fan of these sort of threads which are influenced by knee jerk reactions (no offence intended @Southbank )

    But in answer to the question, about 2 games less than ANY manager has potentially got.
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  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,252
    Peeters was sacked after 9 games without a win and amongst rumours he had fallen out with players,after a good initial run.
    Luzon is now on 6 games without a win amongst rumours he has fallen out with players,after a good initial run.
    Just think change may come sooner than we may think(or want).
  • We collectively moan when managers get the sack every week, then when we lose 3 games, we want ours out.

    Why doesn't anyone want stability at Charlton?
  • Tutt-Tutt
    Tutt-Tutt Posts: 3,274
    the owner will panic if we drop into the bottom three.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,986
    Southbank said:

    Peeters was sacked after 9 games without a win and amongst rumours he had fallen out with players,after a good initial run.
    Luzon is now on 6 games without a win amongst rumours he has fallen out with players,after a good initial run.
    Just think change may come sooner than we may think(or want).

    Genuine question: have there been reports of failing out with players? I mean, apart from Bikey and maybe TBH?
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    Tutt-Tutt said:

    the owner will panic if we drop into the bottom three.

    I don't think he will, unless there is real discontent behind the scenes a la Peters which we don't know about
  • Valley11 said:

    Southbank said:

    Peeters was sacked after 9 games without a win and amongst rumours he had fallen out with players,after a good initial run.
    Luzon is now on 6 games without a win amongst rumours he has fallen out with players,after a good initial run.
    Just think change may come sooner than we may think(or want).

    Genuine question: have there been reports of failing out with players? I mean, apart from Bikey and maybe TBH?
    Some people are saying Igor is out of favour with Luzon ?
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  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Southbank said:

    And how many should he have?

    Luzon has got the squad he managed to negotiate with RD,and is unlikely to get any more. If he cannot win with them,how soon will/should he be replaced?

    Personally I think the squad is too thin and Luzon is partly the victim of this. But failure is failure.

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  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,231

    You can't sack a manager after one bad run. For Christ's sake.

    Happened to Peeters last season and has occurred for the likes of Alexander at Fleetwood and the Dutch fella at Brentford. Never say never with the knee jerk reaction of football owners in recent years.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,741
    I would like to see Jose Riga back if Luzon did go .
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  • Valley11 said:

    Southbank said:

    Peeters was sacked after 9 games without a win and amongst rumours he had fallen out with players,after a good initial run.
    Luzon is now on 6 games without a win amongst rumours he has fallen out with players,after a good initial run.
    Just think change may come sooner than we may think(or want).

    Genuine question: have there been reports of failing out with players? I mean, apart from Bikey and maybe TBH?
    Yes there have but whether you give them any credence or whether are any more than the usual moans from employees you'd hear in any organisation is up to individuals to decide.
  • Tutt-Tutt said:

    the owner will panic if we drop into the bottom three.

    I'm afraid I have to agree on that.
  • He will be gone by the end of October.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    I don't want Luzon to go but it wouldn't surprise me. It also wouldn't upset me- we've got used to it
  • dallas
    dallas Posts: 197
    i think he starting to get found out we need a winger so gets a forward
  • colin1961 said:

    Only people who will be happy are the idiots who said we should have given the job to Paul Jewell of David Jones instead of Luzon !!!!!

    I thought Paul Jewell was from Liverpool?
  • Christ. Has it really got that bad ?