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***Jose Riga... New Charlton Manager (again)***
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I lumped on Theo Foley, disaster. Riga was lucky last time, I think this will end in tears. Still, if things change very quickly we should support him. Wit de wew unbeaten as a manager.1
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Quite a few people referring to him as "another from the network". Last time he was - but surely he left the network when he went to Metz? Now he's just an ex-RD person? Maybe - who really knows...?1
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I wouldn't be surprised if Murray stepped in big time to prevent the Upjest manager from being appointed. Let's face it, Duchatelet has no idea of how toxic he has made our club. No British manager worth his salt would take us on, least of all for the lousy salary Roland would give him.
I was actually hoping that Glen Hoddle would take overall charge, or Curbs of course but no chance of that happening.
So Jose has taken the poisoned chalice. He did well last time and the players responded positively according to the write ups. But it is a harder job this time around. Much harder. I wish him well but fear we will drop this year.
Perhaps signing a solid left back and keeping Lookman will help to change the toxic vibe. Time will tell.0 -
Riga played for c15 years and has been managing for c24 years. He'll be good for us.
'They' should have given him the job a while back.1 -
So a Manager from / around the network, not English and actually a pretty poor record.
Round and round we go!
If you want to know what the future holds re approach / management / transfers / sales / fan involvement then think about the last 24 months.1 -
No, dont be silly, just get someone's arse tattooed on your face.ShootersHillGuru said:Ive completely lost track now. Do I need to get anyone's face tattooed on my arse ?
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Sorry if its been posted elsewhere 2 excellent pieces by Rick (@Airmanbrown) on JR and CARD-;
http://www.votvonline.com/5 -
I suspect our fate has more to do with who signs between now and the end of January. Johnson and Poyet won't be enough. William's will perhaps be gone. We need a centre forward. An attacking central midfielder and someone who can play on the left side. Without those signings I think Jose will find it hard.1
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After reading this, it reminded me that I read a statement today, (sorry cannot remember where), that KM tried to persuade RD to go for a British head coach and he said no.Redmidland said:Sorry if its been posted elsewhere 2 excellent pieces by Rick (@Airmanbrown) on JR and CARD-;
http://www.votvonline.com/0 -
His record is decent apart from the Blackpool job, but he didn't even have a full squad to start the season with, so you have to write that one off.IAgree said:So a Manager from / around the network, not English and actually a pretty poor record.
Round and round we go!
If you want to know what the future holds re approach / management / transfers / sales / fan involvement then think about the last 24 months.
Metz - Played 26 W10 D6 L7
Liege Played 61 W30 D16 L15
You probably already know our own stats with Riga, the most important being that we survived relegation by 7 points and finished in 18th position.
It's fair to slag off Meire and Duchatelet, they are clueless clowns, but Riga isn't a poor manager. He might not be the best out there either, but there are plenty of British managers around with worse records that many people on here would accept. If your main objections are that he isn't English and he is one of Roly's mates, I can accept that, but I don't think it's fair to say his record is poor, because it isn't.11 -
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Dyslexia has a much wider spectrum than people think. It can affect many different elements of how the brain works. Words, spellings, numbers, how someone see's something etc.PL54 said:
Dyslexia affects the written word / spelling doesn't it ? Or at least it does for my brother.Sage said:
Not studying English at Uni. Also have dyslexia so you can keep your pathetic comments to yourself.PL54 said:
UniSage said:
And much of the credit must go to Sion Thomas, a sports psychologist, who is also my lecturer at Uni.IA said:
First win under Riga was at home against Bournemouth (injury time goal from Dervite).Oakster said:That great end of season run ironically started with a win at Huddersfield, 5 wins and 3 draws from the last 8 games - highlight was the 6-0 win at Barnsley.
The 6-0 against Barnsley was the previous season under Powell. Riga lost 2-1 at home to Barnsley.
He was brought in by Powell and the backroom staff to try to change the mentality as they pushed for play offs at the end of the season.
Very good at what he does, even if he is my psychology lecturer.
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Happy about Riga in comparison to what this lot could've brang in, but just shows how ridiculous this club is.
Support the team, not the regime.
Brang
Brang isn't brought spelt wrongly.
But making pathetic comments on my grammar on a post is needless. And with your brother having dyslexia, you shouldn't be so quick to try and correct people with what they say.
Brang is still a word, whether I used it correctly or not isn't important. I made a point which didn't need your childish response.15 -
What a charade. Hopefully he can get us out of this mess but then what!1
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This may the beginning of the end for KM ... if, as some indicated last time he was here, she does not get on with JR, then he is going to go his own way ... without allowing her to control things.
The fact he now has an 18 month contract gives him (for the first time) the security he needs to get on with his job and ignore her.
Could be interesting.2 -
Did anyone watch the Following.
Duchatelet is Joe Carroll. Just got to think which character Riga is.1 -
But we wont get fooled againMiserableoldgit said:Meet the new Boss, same as the old, but 2 (or it 3?) Boss......
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You could argue that he was underachieving at Metz, a big fish in a small pond & was on a very poor run when they dumped him.WestCountryAddick said:
His record is decent apart from the Blackpool job, but he didn't even have a full squad to start the season with, so you have to write that one off.IAgree said:So a Manager from / around the network, not English and actually a pretty poor record.
Round and round we go!
If you want to know what the future holds re approach / management / transfers / sales / fan involvement then think about the last 24 months.
Metz - Played 26 W10 D6 L7
Liege Played 61 W30 D16 L15
You probably already know our own stats with Riga, the most important being that we survived relegation by 7 points and finished in 18th position.
It's fair to slag off Meire and Duchatelet, they are clueless clowns, but Riga isn't a poor manager. He might not be the best out there either, but there are plenty of British managers around with worse records that many people on here would accept. If your main objections are that he isn't English and he is one of Roly's mates, I can accept that, but I don't think it's fair to say his record is poor, because it isn't.0 -
18 month contract?? Oh man, Wilmots is gonna be so piiiiiiiiiiiissed.20
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Perhaps you are right however I think that his ability is still to be proven. However I do hope that he does reproduce his previous Charlton form and without doubt he is the best of the network bunch. I am just very disappointed that at such a crucial time the job has been allocated, once again, upon the basis of RD's underwhelming network manager-go- round as opposed to who the best available Manager is.WestCountryAddick said:
His record is decent apart from the Blackpool job, but he didn't even have a full squad to start the season with, so you have to write that one off.IAgree said:So a Manager from / around the network, not English and actually a pretty poor record.
Round and round we go!
If you want to know what the future holds re approach / management / transfers / sales / fan involvement then think about the last 24 months.
Metz - Played 26 W10 D6 L7
Liege Played 61 W30 D16 L15
You probably already know our own stats with Riga, the most important being that we survived relegation by 7 points and finished in 18th position.
It's fair to slag off Meire and Duchatelet, they are clueless clowns, but Riga isn't a poor manager. He might not be the best out there either, but there are plenty of British managers around with worse records that many people on here would accept. If your main objections are that he isn't English and he is one of Roly's mates, I can accept that, but I don't think it's fair to say his record is poor, because it isn't.
Add in the debacle of the five managers and I am afraid that my enthusiasm is too challenged to jump up and down. To me this appt, and its farce-like prelude, just confirm that RD has learned nothing and that, fundamentally nothing has changed.
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The Board have a fucking strange concept of what a "search" comprises.
I spent more years than I care to remember in senior HR roles, working for and alongside Chief Executives. Senior appointments are absolutely critical to get right. You have to have the most precise possible specification, an attraction strategy, build the widest possible initial candidate pool, knowledgable and forensic assessment and a clear, boundaried negotiating strategy. You do not, under any circumstances, just call up the limited number of people you happen to know and "trust" and pick the one who's available - yet that is exactly Roland's approach. The way you start to build trust is through the selection process, of which "chemistry" is perhaps the most difficult aspect to assess and predict.
It shouldn't really be any surprise. They like to think of Charlton as a company rather than a club. yet here we have a CEO, clearly out of her depth, who has alienated probably 80% of her "customers", is in a state of near-siege in her relationships with them, who has put her foot in her mouth so often she is clearly no longer trusted to handle or put her name to any communications STILL employed. Unbelievable. In any real company the Board would have fired her arse months ago.8 -
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All managers have bad runs. If we hold that against them (and any sackings they might have had) we'd never employ another one. Overall he had a 43% win rate at Metz, he wasn't doing badly.Oakster said:
You could argue that he was underachieving at Metz, a big fish in a small pond & was on a very poor run when they dumped him.WestCountryAddick said:
His record is decent apart from the Blackpool job, but he didn't even have a full squad to start the season with, so you have to write that one off.IAgree said:So a Manager from / around the network, not English and actually a pretty poor record.
Round and round we go!
If you want to know what the future holds re approach / management / transfers / sales / fan involvement then think about the last 24 months.
Metz - Played 26 W10 D6 L7
Liege Played 61 W30 D16 L15
You probably already know our own stats with Riga, the most important being that we survived relegation by 7 points and finished in 18th position.
It's fair to slag off Meire and Duchatelet, they are clueless clowns, but Riga isn't a poor manager. He might not be the best out there either, but there are plenty of British managers around with worse records that many people on here would accept. If your main objections are that he isn't English and he is one of Roly's mates, I can accept that, but I don't think it's fair to say his record is poor, because it isn't.0 -
lets get behind the team not the people that own the club because we dont want to go down0
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Happy about Riga in comparison to what this lot could've brang in, but just shows how ridiculous this club is.
Support the team, not the regime.
Uni
Brang
Not studying English at Uni. Also have dyslexia so you can keep your pathetic comments to yourself.
Dyslexia affects the written word / spelling doesn't it ? Or at least it does for my brother.
Brang isn't brought spelt wrongly.
@PL54- I've flagged you.
@Sage good responses. I've flagged PL54 because I believe he's overstepping the mark of what's acceptable on a football forum. I do think it's a shame that some posters insist on digging fellow fans out, when unity at this moment is so important.Sage said:
Dyslexia has a much wider spectrum than people think. It can affect many different elements of how the brain works. Words, spellings, numbers, how someone see's something etc.PL54 said:
Dyslexia affects the written word / spelling doesn't it ? Or at least it does for my brother.Sage said:
Not studying English at Uni. Also have dyslexia so you can keep your pathetic comments to yourself.PL54 said:
UniSage said:
And much of the credit must go to Sion Thomas, a sports psychologist, who is also my lecturer at Uni.IA said:
First win under Riga was at home against Bournemouth (injury time goal from Dervite).Oakster said:That great end of season run ironically started with a win at Huddersfield, 5 wins and 3 draws from the last 8 games - highlight was the 6-0 win at Barnsley.
The 6-0 against Barnsley was the previous season under Powell. Riga lost 2-1 at home to Barnsley.
He was brought in by Powell and the backroom staff to try to change the mentality as they pushed for play offs at the end of the season.
Very good at what he does, even if he is my psychology lecturer.
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Happy about Riga in comparison to what this lot could've brang in, but just shows how ridiculous this club is.
Support the team, not the regime.
Brang
Brang isn't brought spelt wrongly.
But making pathetic comments on my grammar on a post is needless. And with your brother having dyslexia, you shouldn't be so quick to try and correct people with what they say.
Brang is still a word, whether I used it correctly or not isn't important. I made a point which didn't need your childish response.11 -
UniValleyMick said:Happy about Riga in comparison to what this lot could've brang in, but just shows how ridiculous this club is.
Support the team, not the regime.
Brang
Not studying English at Uni. Also have dyslexia so you can keep your pathetic comments to yourself.
Dyslexia affects the written word / spelling doesn't it ? Or at least it does for my brother.
Brang isn't brought spelt wrongly.
@PL54- I've flagged you.
@Sage good responses. I've flagged PL54 because I believe he's overstepping the mark of what's acceptable on a football forum. I do think it's a shame that some posters insist on digging fellow fans out, when unity at this moment is so important.Sage said:
Dyslexia has a much wider spectrum than people think. It can affect many different elements of how the brain works. Words, spellings, numbers, how someone see's something etc.PL54 said:
Dyslexia affects the written word / spelling doesn't it ? Or at least it does for my brother.Sage said:
Not studying English at Uni. Also have dyslexia so you can keep your pathetic comments to yourself.PL54 said:
UniSage said:
And much of the credit must go to Sion Thomas, a sports psychologist, who is also my lecturer at Uni.IA said:
First win under Riga was at home against Bournemouth (injury time goal from Dervite).Oakster said:That great end of season run ironically started with a win at Huddersfield, 5 wins and 3 draws from the last 8 games - highlight was the 6-0 win at Barnsley.
The 6-0 against Barnsley was the previous season under Powell. Riga lost 2-1 at home to Barnsley.
He was brought in by Powell and the backroom staff to try to change the mentality as they pushed for play offs at the end of the season.
Very good at what he does, even if he is my psychology lecturer.
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Happy about Riga in comparison to what this lot could've brang in, but just shows how ridiculous this club is.
Support the team, not the regime.
Brang
Brang isn't brought spelt wrongly.
But making pathetic comments on my grammar on a post is needless. And with your brother having dyslexia, you shouldn't be so quick to try and correct people with what they say.
Brang is still a word, whether I used it correctly or not isn't important. I made a point which didn't need your childish response.
Good on yer - brang it on :-)
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I actually liked him and I know most the fans did. I just feel sorry for Riga – he did a good job and they treated him really badly.6
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He can't resign - he owns us. Like 'for better or worse!AddicksAddict said:
The way you take responsibility for a complete fuck up is to resign.ForeverAddickted said:Richard Cawley @RichCawleySLP 17s17 seconds ago England, United Kingdom
RD: “This has been a disappointing season for everyone connected with Charlton and the board take responsibility for that." #cafc0 -
Agreed - I nearly caught his tie!AddickFC81 said:He should have been given it at the of the 2013/14 season anyway.
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One can never win these days!PL54 said:
If KM's name had appeared then you'd be asking where RD wasForeverAddickted said:Why is Roland coming out with these comments... Where is Katrien?
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Well spotted! For what's worth I'm impressed.ForeverAddickted said:
Keith Peacock I think... 2-2 draw with Sheffield Wednesdaybbob said:
Who was last Charlton coach with an unbeaten record? you can't knock thatmid_life_crisis said:Enjoyed Wim De Corte's reign as interim. Cracking.
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So they started a search in October, only they actually lied about that. Then they really started a thorough search yesterday and within hours found the ideal man. Who they had clearly been talking to already.
Lie after lie after lie. Sod this. Increase the protests.12
