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A Bonkers Statement from Club - the infamous {...} one
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drewman said:
Are there? Surely no one can still be supporting them?AFKABartram said:Ha, and to think there are people who still support this lot
Oooh, I can name a few.drewman said:
Are there? Surely no one can still be supporting them?AFKABartram said:Ha, and to think there are people who still support this lot
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Unbelievable.... Woken up and it wasn't a dream, it's STILL on the website!!1
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Self imposed ban over
They (she ) is cracking so I'm back for the Brum game and I hope whatever the protests are are good8 -
Details, details.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Despite it having been confirmed RD wrote it, you're pretty spot on. ;-)Dave2l said:
Katrien Meire wrote this statement in her own words without any shadow of doubt.0 -
Just woke up. So it wasn't a dream! The author of this infamous statement will be thinking the same.0
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I'm a bit uncomfortable with collymore using his hands like that....LuckyReds said:24 -
On a certain level, I think we'll almost miss the regime when it's gone....
I mean, where else will we get to delight in such staggering levels of ineptitude????16 -
You are missing the point.....even if its 100% true that there was a semantic slip on her part KM is still repeating her argument that the fans are blameworthy for effectively having an emotional rather than a businesslike attachment to the club and therefore not seeing themselves as customers.AddicksAddict said:
This is the one thing where I'm prepared to give the benefit of the doubt to KM. Speaking in a second language, it would be easy for her to use 'wierd' where she meant something like 'unusual', which is what the sense of ownership fans feel for a club is, when compared to, say, they way cinema-goers feel about their local fleapit. Still, she was an idiot for not getting a native English speaker to check it for her. A piece of "Dunglish" (cf. a previous post on this thread).IAgree said:And another thing!
Since when has weird meant unique?!
There is no climbdown or explanation about that just a weak attempt to play the second language card (and from a person who studied at the LSE in London for a year?) to defend her now increasingly recognised approach to the CEO post (i.e, winging it in the hope you won't get called out).
No, sorry, doesn't get anywhere close.8 -
I was gonna say that, see a link from ITV Sport on Facebook last night and that's how they were reporting itmogodonman said:Media reports think the last par is part of the statement and not attempted clarification of what KM said in Dublin. Another PR own goal. You couldn't make it up.
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This looks like it was written by KM. If RD is alleged to have written it my guess is he simply took Meire's draft, checked it for spelling mistakes and content, and then authorised it to be published.2
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I have never gone along with the 'second language' thing.JessieAddick said:
Sorry but this can never be used as an excuse because it is simply inexusable. She is from a European country, is/was a lawyer, studied in a university in the UK for some time, uses English on a daily basis at corporate level. She's a CEO of a big English company (us) and if her English is really that bad, she doesn't meet the basic requirements of this job, does she?AddicksAddict said:
This is the one thing where I'm prepared to give the benefit of the doubt to KM. Speaking in a second language, it would be easy for her to use 'wierd' where she meant something like 'unusual', which is what the sense of ownership fans feel for a club is, when compared to, say, they way cinema-goers feel about their local fleapit. Still, she was an idiot for not getting a native English speaker to check it for her. A piece of "Dunglish" (cf. a previous post on this thread).IAgree said:And another thing!
Since when has weird meant unique?!
English is not my native language either but even I thought the 'weird' thing was shocking and she should never have said that. It's in fact not a case about second language. Till this day she's still arguing about it, making a laughable attempt ( {...}??? Really??? I couldn't believe my eyes! What did she think she was writing? A thesis?) to explain it in such an outrageous statement so it's clear proof that they really mean what they've been saying. They do think we're weird because they don't understand us. They couldn't be drunk when they put that statement out. It's a bold confrontation. It reflects what they think about the whole situation. In fact they've been treating us as if we're the enemy to defeat or the problem to solve for almost two years. The statemente is, in a way, a good thing because it makes more people realise that Duchatelet and his incompetent CEO should never have had entered the football business and the only way for our club to survive is a change in ownership.
Her English is pretty much fluent and not open for giving squirrel face the benefit of the doubt.3 -
He must really, really love her.
There is no other rational explanation for such embarrassing ineptitude and such inexplicable blind loyalty to someone quite so useless.
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After 22 pages, all I've got from this thread is Shake it off as an ear worm9
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And us haters are gonna hate hate hate.Rothko said:After 22 pages, all I've got from this thread is Shake it off as an ear worm
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I think squirrel face or Baroni will be out of the door before the Birmingham game.
Hopefully the former as Baroni has walked in to a war zone.2 -
I think people have misunderstood my comment. I was not defending Katrien's view of us, only giving her the benefit of the doubt over the use of the word "weird" when she possibly meant something else. Yes, her Dublin statement in its entirety is ridiculous and insulting.Coyotejohn1947 said:
You are missing the point.....even if its 100% true that there was a semantic slip on her part KM is still repeating her argument that the fans are blameworthy for effectively having an emotional rather than a businesslike attachment to the club and therefore not seeing themselves as customers.AddicksAddict said:
This is the one thing where I'm prepared to give the benefit of the doubt to KM. Speaking in a second language, it would be easy for her to use 'wierd' where she meant something like 'unusual', which is what the sense of ownership fans feel for a club is, when compared to, say, they way cinema-goers feel about their local fleapit. Still, she was an idiot for not getting a native English speaker to check it for her. A piece of "Dunglish" (cf. a previous post on this thread).IAgree said:And another thing!
Since when has weird meant unique?!
There is no climbdown or explanation about that just a weak attempt to play the second language card (and from a person who studied at the LSE in London for a year?) to defend her now increasingly recognised approach to the CEO post (i.e, winging it in the hope you won't get called out).
No, sorry, doesn't get anywhere close.2 -
Welcome Roland the rat, new Head of Comms since March 2016Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch said:This looks like it was written by KM. If RD is alleged to have written it my guess is he simply took Meire's draft, checked it for spelling mistakes and content, and then authorised it to be published.
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She also used the word UNIQUE at the Dublin conference as well, when talking about pitching us as the Southern Crewe Alexandra.Oakster said:weird - unique easy to get confused but Katrien likes the word unique
At 3 mins 15 seconds into the video below...
"So this year we will be doing something very UNIQUE in England, I don't think it has been done before...we will have a pitch side sofa" etc etc
Strange how she didn't say weird in this case isn't it?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g-4uISj83OM
Sadly Trump inherited an already successful Realestate company from his rich father, and changed the name from "Elizabeth Trump and Son" to something a bit more narcissisticDave2l said:
Roland wrote this??????????????????????????????Stu_of_Kunming said:
Despite it having been confirmed RD wrote it, you're pretty spot on. ;-)Dave2l said:
Katrien Meire wrote this statement in her own words without any shadow of doubt.
Do you know what that proves. I mean seriously do you know what that proves.
Anyone and I mean anyone could be a millionaire.
It's the best news ever.
This is also backed up by the fact that Donald c*nt face Trump is a BILLIONAIRE.
ladies and gents dig in, there is a rather simplistic unthoutful stupidly easy way of getting rich.
Just gotta crack that unique/weird code.
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only just seen this.
i'm stunned.
convinced we're all being subjected to a collective 3 year special of "You've Been Framed."21 - Sponsored links:
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Agree 100% lots of time to qualify her statement, also lots of time to look at the body language of the bloke sitting next to her and think, 'hang on a minute something's not right here, have I said something wrong'?NornIrishAddick said:
Absolutely spot on. Meire clearly has an excellent grasp of English (sadly not of football). Also, she had lots of time in Dublin to qualify her statement, but chose not to. Either she meant exactly what she said then, or she's a simpering idiot (actually, there's a chance she's both).JessieAddick said:
Sorry but this can never be used as an excuse because it is simply inexusable. She is from a European country, is/was a lawyer, studied in a university in the UK for some time, uses English on a daily basis at corporate level. She's a CEO of a big English company (us) and if her English is really that bad, she doesn't meet the basic requirements of this job, does she?AddicksAddict said:
This is the one thing where I'm prepared to give the benefit of the doubt to KM. Speaking in a second language, it would be easy for her to use 'wierd' where she meant something like 'unusual', which is what the sense of ownership fans feel for a club is, when compared to, say, they way cinema-goers feel about their local fleapit. Still, she was an idiot for not getting a native English speaker to check it for her. A piece of "Dunglish" (cf. a previous post on this thread).IAgree said:And another thing!
Since when has weird meant unique?!
English is not my native language either but even I thought the 'weird' thing was shocking and she should never have said that. It's in fact not a case about second language. Till this day she's still arguing about it, making a laughable attempt ( {...}??? Really??? I couldn't believe my eyes! What did she think she was writing? A thesis?) to explain it in such an outrageous statement so it's clear proof that they really mean what they've been saying. They do think we're weird because they don't understand us. They couldn't be drunk when they put that statement out. It's a bold confrontation. It reflects what they think about the whole situation. In fact they've been treating us as if we're the enemy to defeat or the problem to solve for almost two years. The statemente is, in a way, a good thing because it makes more people realise that Duchatelet and his incompetent CEO should never have had entered the football business and the only way for our club to survive is a change in ownership.
I'm getting sick of hearing her claim that she was mis-represented. It's an absolute lie. Everyone has seen the video and knows exactly what she said, what the context was and what her voice tone was like when she said it. Once again, what she's claiming now doesn't stack up. She's trying to play the victim card to wriggle out of a situation of her own making. There can only be two explanations for what she said:
1) She thought she was amongst friends and opened up to a them in a them vs us manner (for those who are familiar with Eric Berne, I think she was trying to initiate a game of 'Ain't it Awful'). She said exactly what she meant, therefore demonstrating her unsuitability for the job by fundamentally misunderstanding the importance of fans.
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2) She really meant to say something else but because her communication skills aren't that good, it came out all wrong. If (big if) this is the case then she still isn't suitable because a major part of being a business leader is getting your message correct and consistent.10 -
The CEO getting the Belgian owner to check spelling, content and grammar?Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch said:This looks like it was written by KM. If RD is alleged to have written it my guess is he simply took Meire's draft, checked it for spelling mistakes and content, and then authorised it to be published.
Little wonder that it came across as a f**ked rambling rant then!
Still, I'm sure that this morning Mandy theteaticket lady will feel that justice has been done and that the world will stop "misquoting" her boss0 -
Just go love, and take Colin with you.8
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Or 3) Shes mad.Stig said:
Agree 100% lots of time to qualify her statement, also lots of time to look at the body language of the bloke sitting next to her and think, 'hang on a minute something's not right here, have I said something wrong'?NornIrishAddick said:
Absolutely spot on. Meire clearly has an excellent grasp of English (sadly not of football). Also, she had lots of time in Dublin to qualify her statement, but chose not to. Either she meant exactly what she said then, or she's a simpering idiot (actually, there's a chance she's both).JessieAddick said:
Sorry but this can never be used as an excuse because it is simply inexusable. She is from a European country, is/was a lawyer, studied in a university in the UK for some time, uses English on a daily basis at corporate level. She's a CEO of a big English company (us) and if her English is really that bad, she doesn't meet the basic requirements of this job, does she?AddicksAddict said:
This is the one thing where I'm prepared to give the benefit of the doubt to KM. Speaking in a second language, it would be easy for her to use 'wierd' where she meant something like 'unusual', which is what the sense of ownership fans feel for a club is, when compared to, say, they way cinema-goers feel about their local fleapit. Still, she was an idiot for not getting a native English speaker to check it for her. A piece of "Dunglish" (cf. a previous post on this thread).IAgree said:And another thing!
Since when has weird meant unique?!
English is not my native language either but even I thought the 'weird' thing was shocking and she should never have said that. It's in fact not a case about second language. Till this day she's still arguing about it, making a laughable attempt ( {...}??? Really??? I couldn't believe my eyes! What did she think she was writing? A thesis?) to explain it in such an outrageous statement so it's clear proof that they really mean what they've been saying. They do think we're weird because they don't understand us. They couldn't be drunk when they put that statement out. It's a bold confrontation. It reflects what they think about the whole situation. In fact they've been treating us as if we're the enemy to defeat or the problem to solve for almost two years. The statemente is, in a way, a good thing because it makes more people realise that Duchatelet and his incompetent CEO should never have had entered the football business and the only way for our club to survive is a change in ownership.
I'm getting sick of hearing her claim that she was mis-represented. It's an absolute lie. Everyone has seen the video and knows exactly what she said, what the context was and what her voice tone was like when she said it. Once again, what she's claiming now doesn't stack up. She's trying to play the victim card to wriggle out of a situation of her own making. There can only be two explanations for what she said:
1) She thought she was amongst friends and opened up to a them in a them vs us manner (for those who are familiar with Eric Berne, I think she was trying to initiate a game of 'Ain't it Awful'). She said exactly what she meant, therefore demonstrating her unsuitability for the job by fundamentally misunderstanding the importance of fans.
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2) She really meant to say something else but because her communication skills aren't that good, it came out all wrong. If (big if) this is the case then she still isn't suitable because a major part of being a business leader is getting your message correct and consistent.
4) She was drunk.1 -
I hope Mel Baroni walks out, but not because I dislike her - I don't know enough about her - but I suspect she's been stitched up by her paymasters here.ElfsborgAddick said:I think squirrel face or Baroni will be out of the door before the Birmingham game.
Hopefully the former as Baroni has walked in to a war zone.
I'm hopeful, and reports from those who've met her suggest this, that she's smart and savvy and essentially tells the club that she's not prepared to work for them if they're going to push through disastrous press releases without her approval.
If this happens, we may find we have a new ally with us on the outside pissing in.
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The point is she hasnt just made this bloomer she has a whole host of them to her name. We know she is totally out of her depth and her time will come.0
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Dear Roland,
yes I know! I was as surprised as anyone on sunday. They had been so supportive until now. Do you remember when we arranged the childrens activities in the car park? Well, the fans were nothing short of wonderfull, dressing up as Disney characters. And when I said the discontents were only 2%? Well they were right behind me on thet. 2% ? You're having a laugh! they sang and sang at every match since then. And suddenly on sunday, they rebel.
To be honest, I think they are a bit like naughty school children, playing pranks and misbehaving in front of the cameras. That charming M.Murray (he is still calling me 'Mon Cher', can you imagine?) said the thing with the balls is just a quirky English humour thing as the end of season draws near and the fans look forward to a break from the excitement of the Championship. Funny though, I don't remember them doing it other years. He also said that when they all walked out, it was an expression of supreme confidence in the team's ability to win without them. And it worked! We scored two minutes later.
Anyway, I've had a chat with that Melissa woman you installed. Lovely lady, but I can't help feeling you already had me in that role. Anyway, she's got some great initiatives lined up. Remember that sex on the pitch video I had made. Well, we're going to do a follow up. But we think the first one was a bit 'old school' so this time we are having multiple couples, same sex groupings and animals! Never let it be said that Charlton are an old men's football club. I digress. We think the best thing to do would be for you to write a letter to the fans. No frills, just Grandad Roland addressing his much loved but errant nephews and nieces. Maybe a small slap on the wrist, but a genuine message from a much loved Elder statesman. You get the thing typed up and we¡ll have it on the internet in a jiffy.
Wait till you see how they react (and if you can't get Charlton Life on the work PC, I'll send you a resume tomorrow lunchtime).
Bon chance
Kat
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I really can't believe the club itself would put out this statement. It beggars belief.
In my mind this leaves the following possibilities:
1. The club really did put the statement out - in which case Katrien has really lost the plot. She is an educated woman and holds a career as an international lawyer so I would not expect a statement worded like that if she were in her right mind - it's pure toddler tantrum stuff.
2. A sneaky Addick has exploited a weakness in the security of the CAFC website and has posted the statement. There has been (at the time of writing this) no swiftly produced disclaimer from the club - which of course you would expect had the site been hacked.
Either way it's clear that our protests are effective - either by hacking off the CEO or just hacking the site.
Proper Charlton popcorn moment.....2 -
As posted elsewhere she clearly knows the difference between unique and weird. During that same interview she used the word unique elsewhere so it's nothing to do with language barrier etc.AddicksAddict said:
I think people have misunderstood my comment. I was not defending Katrien's view of us, only giving her the benefit of the doubt over the use of the word "weird" when she possibly meant something else. Yes, her Dublin statement in its entirety is ridiculous and insulting.Coyotejohn1947 said:
You are missing the point.....even if its 100% true that there was a semantic slip on her part KM is still repeating her argument that the fans are blameworthy for effectively having an emotional rather than a businesslike attachment to the club and therefore not seeing themselves as customers.AddicksAddict said:
This is the one thing where I'm prepared to give the benefit of the doubt to KM. Speaking in a second language, it would be easy for her to use 'wierd' where she meant something like 'unusual', which is what the sense of ownership fans feel for a club is, when compared to, say, they way cinema-goers feel about their local fleapit. Still, she was an idiot for not getting a native English speaker to check it for her. A piece of "Dunglish" (cf. a previous post on this thread).IAgree said:And another thing!
Since when has weird meant unique?!
There is no climbdown or explanation about that just a weak attempt to play the second language card (and from a person who studied at the LSE in London for a year?) to defend her now increasingly recognised approach to the CEO post (i.e, winging it in the hope you won't get called out).
No, sorry, doesn't get anywhere close.
Unless of course she has confused the two which means she's trying to establish a weird match day experience..... And we are all unique.....Yer right.1 -
To be fair to Her, she is delivering thatRob7Lee said:
As posted elsewhere she clearly knows the difference between unique and weird. During that same interview she used the word unique elsewhere so it's nothing to do with language barrier etc.AddicksAddict said:
I think people have misunderstood my comment. I was not defending Katrien's view of us, only giving her the benefit of the doubt over the use of the word "weird" when she possibly meant something else. Yes, her Dublin statement in its entirety is ridiculous and insulting.Coyotejohn1947 said:
You are missing the point.....even if its 100% true that there was a semantic slip on her part KM is still repeating her argument that the fans are blameworthy for effectively having an emotional rather than a businesslike attachment to the club and therefore not seeing themselves as customers.AddicksAddict said:
This is the one thing where I'm prepared to give the benefit of the doubt to KM. Speaking in a second language, it would be easy for her to use 'wierd' where she meant something like 'unusual', which is what the sense of ownership fans feel for a club is, when compared to, say, they way cinema-goers feel about their local fleapit. Still, she was an idiot for not getting a native English speaker to check it for her. A piece of "Dunglish" (cf. a previous post on this thread).IAgree said:And another thing!
Since when has weird meant unique?!
There is no climbdown or explanation about that just a weak attempt to play the second language card (and from a person who studied at the LSE in London for a year?) to defend her now increasingly recognised approach to the CEO post (i.e, winging it in the hope you won't get called out).
No, sorry, doesn't get anywhere close.
Unless of course she has confused the two which means she's trying to establish a weird match day experience..... And we are all unique.....Yer right.4
