This is the one thing where I'm prepared to give the benefit of the doubt to KM. Speaking in a second language, it would be easy for her to use 'wierd' where she meant something like 'unusual', which is what the sense of ownership fans feel for a club is, when compared to, say, they way cinema-goers feel about their local fleapit. Still, she was an idiot for not getting a native English speaker to check it for her. A piece of "Dunglish" (cf. a previous post on this thread).
You are missing the point.....even if its 100% true that there was a semantic slip on her part KM is still repeating her argument that the fans are blameworthy for effectively having an emotional rather than a businesslike attachment to the club and therefore not seeing themselves as customers.
There is no climbdown or explanation about that just a weak attempt to play the second language card (and from a person who studied at the LSE in London for a year?) to defend her now increasingly recognised approach to the CEO post (i.e, winging it in the hope you won't get called out).
No, sorry, doesn't get anywhere close.
I think people have misunderstood my comment. I was not defending Katrien's view of us, only giving her the benefit of the doubt over the use of the word "weird" when she possibly meant something else. Yes, her Dublin statement in its entirety is ridiculous and insulting.
As posted elsewhere she clearly knows the difference between unique and weird. During that same interview she used the word unique elsewhere so it's nothing to do with language barrier etc.
Unless of course she has confused the two which means she's trying to establish a weird match day experience..... And we are all unique.....Yer right.
Stan has been very supportive as have most of the Talksport team , same goes for sky sports. Don't seem to be getting the same support from the BBC it seems , no wonder I guess when their phone in has KM's friend working on it.
That is massively incorrect and you obviously don't listen to Radio London Sport. 606 long ago became irrelevant for any serious discussion about football.
If Duchatelet approved this statement then surely he is still backing Meire. Nothing much has changed except for another idiotic decision by the owners.
You are all a bunch of bastards (meaning nice people) ! Seriously, her Dublin quote was preceeded by her telling us we only contribute a third of revenue - she cant avoid the fact she was attacking fans.
By the way, I have to say thanks to @IA for what is possibly the best gif I've ever seen:
Ha, I'd been waiting for an excuse to use it.
By the way, I took a bit of flak on here for defending the Dublin comments (while criticising her general tone), but I want to say that she should have left them in the past. It was weird for her to discuss them in detail at the FF and absolutely bizarre to tag them on at the end of a club statement.
If Duchatelet approved this statement then surely he is still backing Meire. Nothing much has changed except for another idiotic decision by the owners.
This morning, some posters did not come to Charlton Life to acquiesce, but came to create debate on the forum and interfere with other posters comments. Debate which is, allegedly, needed to drive further explanation of what had previously been said.
Whom would they expect the explanation be for the benefit of? How long would the editing process take? Is it easier to explain a post when it is on page 23 or page 33?
Some individuals seem to want previous posts to fail. This is a confused approach, since following this logic leads to exactly the opposite of what we all want: not getting to page 33.
Allegations regarding Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch are misrepresented*~ and are continuously used as a method to discredit and fuel personal abuse, hatred and with a risk to personal safety.
Although certain individuals tell you it does not happen, Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch has posted without disruption with different groups of fans on Charlton Life. Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch will continue this constructive dialogue with fans.
We have 9 pages left in which to wind down this discussion and to not get to page 33.
The thread just got 23 pages in 12 hours.
We still have the chance to make it happen with the support of the fans until page 32. We must believe it is still possible. Every football fan knows not getting to page 33 is a crucial factor in avoiding unnecessary unrest.
This looks like it was written by KM. If RD is alleged to have written it my guess is he simply took Meire's draft, checked it for spelling mistakes and content, and then authorised it to be published.
Welcome Roland the rat, new Head of Comms since March 2016
*If RD is alleged to have written it my guess is he {…} took Meire's draft, checked {…} spelling mistakes and content, and then authorised (meaning in his role as owner wanting a message to go to his customers, not a new role of Head of Comms) it to be published.
This looks like it was written by KM. If RD is alleged to have written it my guess is he simply took Meire's draft, checked it for spelling mistakes and content, and then authorised it to be published.
The CEO getting the Belgian owner to check spelling, content and grammar?
Little wonder that it came across as a f**ked rambling rant then!
Still, I'm sure that this morning Mandy the tea ticket lady will feel that justice has been done and that the world will stop "misquoting" her boss
~If RD is alleged to have written it my guess is he {…} took Meire's draft, checked {…} spelling mistakes (meaning my 'banter') and content (meaning what I was actually implying), and then authorised it to be published.
Just caught up with this after a night out! A parody surely or writings of a deranged CEO/owner?! Now I really know they are rattled. Keep up the pressure.
If Duchatelet approved this statement then surely he is still backing Meire. Nothing much has changed except for another idiotic decision by the owners.
It would seem it's from Roly himself ......
That might just mean he approved it. Refers to himself in the third person. He may have done this but I am thinking at the moment that he approved the statement and sent it to comms.
I think CARD should respond to his main question in fairness.
Dear Roland,
In answer to your question, yes, it is easier to sell a Championship club than one in the 1st division. You better hurry up. I think your main concern is pehaps how much money you may lose, huh? Again, you will lose more if the club are in the lower league. I see you are also concerned as to how long the process may take, huh? I think the best advice is to start the process as soon as possible as if this is formally announced and proceeded by the stepping down of your CEO, the supporters may come back on side and support the team and help you get some of your money back. I would also suggest that there is no need to be over concerned at finding a buyer when in relegation place as I understand you can add a clause that if the club do get relegated they will pay less. Opps, you already know this, huh? I hope you found this useful and I would urge you to follow the advice as a matter of urgency. Good luck in whatever you do next. Have you thought of helping the UN, huh? Just a thought,
It was put to me, admittedly in a manner I struggled to understand, that in terms of Roland and Charlton, failure is success. It is something to do with tax avoidance, and churning money around the network, funneling it here and there with good bits ending up with Staprix, and in this system it somehow needs for part of it to be actually failing in order to create wealth for other parts and for there to be overall profit. It was a bit over my head, but is sort of made sense at the time, and the concept of 'failure is success' has been nagging me all day. Yeah I am confused, but is there any rationale or scenario for part of an interlinked enterprise to swallow up money and fail, in order to boost another part?
You can utilise tax losses against inter group companies but there would be far more efficient ways to do so without pissing off thousands and destroying your credibility whilst inviting media ridicule.
I think it's been a case of seeing the FFP being ushered in but having no clue about football but an abundance of arrogance and stubbornness. ..perhaps topped off with a good few ounces of delusion has failed to acknowledged his plan and objective of breaking even is unworkable based upon the retraction of FFP and the fact he knows nothing about football or South East London football fans.
Last Sunday, some individuals did not come to The Valley to watch the game and support the team, but came to create disorder on the pitch and interfere with the players and the game. Disorder which is, allegedly, needed to drive change in ownership and management.
Whom would they expect the club to be sold to? How long would a sales process take? Is it easier to sell the club when it is in League One rather than Championship?
Some individuals seem to want the club to fail. This is a confused approach, since following this logic leads to exactly the opposite of what we all want: staying in the Championship... etc
Stan has been very supportive as have most of the Talksport team , same goes for sky sports. Don't seem to be getting the same support from the BBC it seems , no wonder I guess when their phone in has KM's friend working on it.
That is massively incorrect and you obviously don't listen to Radio London Sport. 606 long ago became irrelevant for any serious discussion about football.
When I tell people about the plight of Charlton, it sounds so outlandish that they think I must be making it up, or greatly exaggerating / misinterpreting what the Belgians have said
So I will now memorise Jor-El's opening speech as it seems like a good rebuttal:-
This is no fantasy, no careless product of a wild imagination, we are not dealing here with wild supposition.
No my good friends, these indictments that I have brought you this day, the specific charges listed therein against these individuals, their acts of treason and ultimate aim of sedition - these are matters of undeniable fact!
Steve Tongue lives in Charlton. Football journalist, founder of 'FOUL' magazine and Leyton Orient fan. He sees the threat to Orient from West Ham and the Olympic Stadium move, and figures if Charlton closed down it would create a few floaters who might gravitate to Orient. He has a daughter, carefully shielded her from the Glenda Slag character created in FOUL, encourages her to grow up a feminist, and helps her set up an organisation called Women in Football. Steve gets his daughter Jo to accidentally bump into Katrien in Notting Hill and spill soup down her chest. This encourages a friendship, but Steve Tongue advises Jo Tongue how to fuel Katrien's victim mentality. Katrien eventually loses it, and so Roland closes down Charlton in a huffy act of revenge. Hey presto Orient gain an extra fifty fans. Steve Tongue is the hidden hand of power nobody suspected. The above makes perfect boring sense compared with what is spewing out of the club at the moment.
Sky are still running this story (on SSN at 0850). Start with a mention of "The Statement", then recycled the videos of the funeral and beach ball incidents. Free publicity thanks to the statement!!
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By the way, I took a bit of flak on here for defending the Dublin comments (while criticising her general tone), but I want to say that she should have left them in the past. It was weird for her to discuss them in detail at the FF and absolutely bizarre to tag them on at the end of a club statement.
She's rattled
Imagine what they'll say when they finally shove off?
Dear posters,
This morning, some posters did not come to Charlton Life to acquiesce, but came to create debate on the forum and interfere with other posters comments. Debate which is, allegedly, needed to drive further explanation of what had previously been said.
Whom would they expect the explanation be for the benefit of? How long would the editing process take? Is it easier to explain a post when it is on page 23 or page 33?
Some individuals seem to want previous posts to fail. This is a confused approach, since following this logic leads to exactly the opposite of what we all want: not getting to page 33.
Allegations regarding Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch are misrepresented*~ and are continuously used as a method to discredit and fuel personal abuse, hatred and with a risk to personal safety.
Although certain individuals tell you it does not happen, Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch has posted without disruption with different groups of fans on Charlton Life. Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch will continue this constructive dialogue with fans.
We have 9 pages left in which to wind down this discussion and to not get to page 33.
The thread just got 23 pages in 12 hours.
We still have the chance to make it happen with the support of the fans until page 32. We must believe it is still possible. Every football fan knows not getting to page 33 is a crucial factor in avoiding unnecessary unrest.
*If RD is alleged to have written it my guess is he {…} took Meire's draft, checked {…} spelling mistakes and content, and then authorised (meaning in his role as owner wanting a message to go to his customers, not a new role of Head of Comms) it to be published.
~If RD is alleged to have written it my guess is he {…} took Meire's draft, checked {…} spelling mistakes (meaning my 'banter') and content (meaning what I was actually implying), and then authorised it to be published.
Dear Roland,
In answer to your question, yes, it is easier to sell a Championship club than one in the 1st division. You better hurry up.
I think your main concern is pehaps how much money you may lose, huh? Again, you will lose more if the club are in the lower league.
I see you are also concerned as to how long the process may take, huh? I think the best advice is to start the process as soon as possible as if this is formally announced and proceeded by the stepping down of your CEO, the supporters may come back on side and support the team and help you get some of your money back.
I would also suggest that there is no need to be over concerned at finding a buyer when in relegation place as I understand you can add a clause that if the club do get relegated they will pay less. Opps, you already know this, huh?
I hope you found this useful and I would urge you to follow the advice as a matter of urgency.
Good luck in whatever you do next. Have you thought of helping the UN, huh? Just a thought,
CARD.
I think it's been a case of seeing the FFP being ushered in but having no clue about football but an abundance of arrogance and stubbornness. ..perhaps topped off with a good few ounces of delusion has failed to acknowledged his plan and objective of breaking even is unworkable based upon the retraction of FFP and the fact he knows nothing about football or South East London football fans.
So I will now memorise Jor-El's opening speech as it seems like a good rebuttal:-
This is no fantasy, no careless product of
a wild imagination, we are not dealing here with wild supposition.
No my good friends, these indictments that I have brought you this day, the specific charges listed therein against these individuals, their acts of treason and ultimate aim of sedition - these are matters of undeniable fact!
Tony Keohane/Richard Murray*, Katrien Miere, Roland Duchatelet.
*delete the one that annoys you least. For me, after the fans forum the thought of Keohane annoys me more than Murray.
He sees the threat to Orient from West Ham and the Olympic Stadium move, and figures if Charlton closed down it would create a few floaters who might gravitate to Orient.
He has a daughter, carefully shielded her from the Glenda Slag character created in FOUL, encourages her to grow up a feminist, and helps her set up an organisation called Women in Football.
Steve gets his daughter Jo to accidentally bump into Katrien in Notting Hill and spill soup down her chest. This encourages a friendship, but Steve Tongue advises Jo Tongue how to fuel Katrien's victim mentality.
Katrien eventually loses it, and so Roland closes down Charlton in a huffy act of revenge.
Hey presto Orient gain an extra fifty fans.
Steve Tongue is the hidden hand of power nobody suspected.
The above makes perfect boring sense compared with what is spewing out of the club at the moment.