If I were an employee of Charlton Athletic, right now, I wouldn’t be working anything other than my contracted hours. If I’m paid for 37.5 hours per week, then that’s what I’d be working. Wouldn’t do another minute unless I was paid overtime. What are they going to do, sack all of the staff for working contracted hours ...
Bosses are genuinely frightened about people doing this across the board. Two things stop it from happening
1) The goodwill (misguided) of employees 2) The fucking odious pricks that push people to do stuff like this make employees feel so frightened they inevitably won't do it
The work to rule idea is a good one, but dare I say it would need a bit of leadership from somewhere, maybe in the form of advice, because individuals are not always aware of their contractual rights and limitations. Some contracts have wording along the lines of:...and do such work/hours necessary for x,y and z..... At other times managers bandy about phrases such as 'it is an expectation....will be deemed as.....professionalism requires....' and so on.
If you lack a bit of confidence, and certainly haven't lived through a period when Trade Unionism, organising and co-ordinating have been strong like in the past, then the skills of work related resistance won't be obvious.
I hope there is a brave soul on the staff that to an extent other staff can rally round, or that as a collective they can get good advice and support from elsewhere. I also think that if as a body they were able to join a big Union such as Unison they would get help that extends retrospectively. if CARD want to make good use of funds, then instead of being morally pressured to pay the Roland shortfall out of donations, CARD could pay all the staff's Union membership and subs for a year if the staff were up for it as a group.
Roland is a scumbag and so are those who defend him. Utter utter scumbag. How dare he do this?
I'm extremely pleased the staff are standing together (Well I'm sure apart from a couple who probably are still in Roland's pocket) and fighting this together. Hopefully they'll get the outcome they deserve and the owner soon disappears back down his hole.
The quicker this odious man leaves our club the better.
The stewards finding that a lack of transport meant they couldn’t turn up in anywhere near enough numbers for the security of the game to be guaranteed, have to be called off by old bill.
Losing all the keys to the exit gates.
Bizarre inability to get the fire alarm system working?
Total failure of the tannoy system which lets face it has been patched together for years.
No one available to open the directors box except friend Tony who’s key strangely is away to be mended.
Discovery of an unfortunate amount of pigeon shit just before the game that just can’t be cleaned up in time to make the stands safe.
An error in the electronic ticketing system that meant that the away end fans could only get in the home end and the home stands into the jimmy seed stand
Do hope none of these happen btw as it would be a shame to miss them due to prior commitments.
The work to rule idea is a good one, but dare I say it would need a bit of leadership from somewhere, maybe in the form of advice, because individuals are not always aware of their contractual rights and limitations. Some contracts have wording along the lines of:...and do such work/hours necessary for x,y and z..... At other times managers bandy about phrases such as 'it is an expectation....will be deemed as.....professionalism requires....' and so on.
If you lack a bit of confidence, and certainly haven't lived through a period when Trade Unionism, organising and co-ordinating have been strong like in the past, then the skills of work related resistance won't be obvious.
I hope there is a brave soul on the staff that to an extent other staff can rally round, or that as a collective they can get good advice and support from elsewhere. I also think that if as a body they were able to join a big Union such as Unison they would get help that extends retrospectively. if CARD want to make good use of funds, then instead of being morally pressured to pay the Roland shortfall out of donations, CARD could pay all the staff's Union membership and subs for a year if the staff were up for it as a group.
The staff have already collectively come up with the letter to RD so it certainly looks like they are prepared to stand together, I'm assuming someone on the staff is rallying them already based on that and the fact they clearly had a meeting of some kind this morning which one would assume required someone to step up and organise. Absolutely agree they will need outside advice though, ACAS could be helpful if they aren't in a union - not everyone can afford to get lawyered up!
Health and Safety issues at a public even attended even by our paltry crowds could lead to the game being called off.
As for Greenwich Council don't they have food safety inspectors, and other inspectors for local events to make sure they operate by the letter of the law?
Even then there might be discretionary powers in the hands of those obliged to keep us safe that will lead to an event being cancelled.
At the recent Lewisham East by-Election hustings in Catford the police called the event off when about 50 anti fascist demonstrators assembled outside the building, on grounds of safety. I don't believe there were any arrests either.
Very good piece on BBC News. Surely we are in the end game?
We have been saying that for ages now lol, everytime he does something we think its because we are close to the end, but the old fucker is still hanging around
Very good piece on BBC News. Surely we are in the end game?
We have been saying that for ages now lol, everytime he does something we think its because we are close to the end, but the old fucker is still hanging around
I know, Paulie, I know. Got to cling to that shred of hope...
Very good piece on BBC News. Surely we are in the end game?
We have been saying that for ages now lol, everytime he does something we think its because we are close to the end, but the old fucker is still hanging around like a bad smell
Staff strike on Saturday? Gets the match postponed, more embarrassment for Roland and helps Lee Bowyer, as a few players will be back from injury for the re-arranged fixture.
Also Seb might then make it 1000 at The Valley...;)
Work to rule only really works if your job involves lots of practical work.
Cutting corners stops. For instance checking every nut and bolt on a piece of machinery before starting it up. Filling out every little bit of paperwork to confirm what you’ve done. Lots of it is on the grounds of safety so there’s not a lot the firm can do about it.
Work to rule only really works if your job involves lots of practical work.
Cutting corners stops. For instance checking every nut and bolt on a piece of machinery before starting it up. Filling out every little bit of paperwork to confirm what you’ve done. Lots of it is on the grounds of safety so there’s not a lot the firm can do about it.
One thing is for sure, whatever the bonus was supposed to be for - that would be the first thing to go right out of the window in terms of effort - if it was about meeting cost cutting targets? I would be leaving lights/fans on, wasting paper, letting the tap run you name it! But then I can be very petty when I put my mind to it!
who is the fat fella with the mic at half time? Isn’t he a fan? Maybe he should start a song of Roland out with the north stand instead of crossbar challenge next game.
Every time I think Roland has sunk to a new low, he finds a way to sink further. Does Belgium have a sports minister... maybe someone from CARD could pass them this email/letter exchange for their thoughts?
who is the fat fella with the mic at half time? Isn’t he a fan? Maybe he should start a song of Roland out with the north stand instead of crossbar challenge next game.
Like BDL said when he resigned... its a job at the end of the day so Brian Cole (despite being advised not to take it) has to display a measure of professionalism even if the Belgians dont
Else its like wondering why the comms team instead of posting news and efl adverts dont just constantly tweet all the crap that Roland has done
If you read the letter from the staff to RD the opening sentence says and I quote “ we wish to express our extreme disappointment at your decision not to pay hard working staff the money that had been previously promised based on our performances this year. The letter goes onto talk about the staff working above and beyond their contractural requirements for the good of the club. RD and his board, Richard Murray, are the ones that have quite clearly not met their targets due to complete mismanagement off the field. However leaving this to one side, the biggest ‘crime’ here is NOT to tell the staff until some 20 days after the bonuses should have been paid that they are not getting them. That is not excuseable and shows a cowardly streak by both of the aforementioned people. It can’t have been a surprise to RD/RM that the club were going to have a bad financial year (if it was a surprise then there is no hope for us while these two Charlie’s are in charge), so why not tell the staff the bonuses promised weren’t coming a few months ago? Perhaps when the season finished? To not say anything is indefensible and not how ANY business should be run. My advice to the staff is work your contracted hours, refuse to do anything outside of your job description. That’s not striking it’s doing just what you’re paid to do, nothing more nothing less. RD needs to understand he can’t treat his staff this way, and I have to ask what RM is doing while this is going on. This stinks of an owner who, despite being a millionaire, is a vindictive person with no clue about people who, perhaps, worked really hard to get their bonus, achieved targets, only to be told “sorry we’ve screwed up you get nothing” All fans, should stand up for what’s right and moral, not trying to defend the indefensible. I’m not a member of any group, just an individual old person that thinks this stinks more than anything else this owner has done over the last 4 years.
who is the fat fella with the mic at half time? Isn’t he a fan? Maybe he should start a song of Roland out with the north stand instead of crossbar challenge next game.
Like BDL said when he resigned... its a job at the end of the day so Brian Cole (despite being advised not to take it) has to display a measure of professionalism even if the Belgians dont
Else its like wondering why the comms team instead of posting news and efl adverts dont just constantly tweet all the crap that Roland has done
He showed no professionalism at the Palace game in 94 leading to the club sacking him
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1) The goodwill (misguided) of employees
2) The fucking odious pricks that push people to do stuff like this make employees feel so frightened they inevitably won't do it
If you lack a bit of confidence, and certainly haven't lived through a period when Trade Unionism, organising and co-ordinating have been strong like in the past, then the skills of work related resistance won't be obvious.
I hope there is a brave soul on the staff that to an extent other staff can rally round, or that as a collective they can get good advice and support from elsewhere. I also think that if as a body they were able to join a big Union such as Unison they would get help that extends retrospectively.
if CARD want to make good use of funds, then instead of being morally pressured to pay the Roland shortfall out of donations, CARD could pay all the staff's Union membership and subs for a year if the staff were up for it as a group.
I'm extremely pleased the staff are standing together (Well I'm sure apart from a couple who probably are still in Roland's pocket) and fighting this together. Hopefully they'll get the outcome they deserve and the owner soon disappears back down his hole.
The quicker this odious man leaves our club the better.
I wonder what that could entail....
The stewards finding that a lack of transport meant they couldn’t turn up in anywhere near enough numbers for the security of the game to be guaranteed, have to be called off by old bill.
Losing all the keys to the exit gates.
Bizarre inability to get the fire alarm system working?
Total failure of the tannoy system which lets face it has been patched together for years.
No one available to open the directors box except friend Tony who’s key strangely is away to be mended.
Discovery of an unfortunate amount of pigeon shit just before the game that just can’t be cleaned up in time to make the stands safe.
An error in the electronic ticketing system that meant that the away end fans could only get in the home end and the home stands into the jimmy seed stand
Do hope none of these happen btw as it would be a shame to miss them due to prior commitments.
As for Greenwich Council don't they have food safety inspectors, and other inspectors for local events to make sure they operate by the letter of the law?
Even then there might be discretionary powers in the hands of those obliged to keep us safe that will lead to an event being cancelled.
At the recent Lewisham East by-Election hustings in Catford the police called the event off when about 50 anti fascist demonstrators assembled outside the building, on grounds of safety. I don't believe there were any arrests either.
Verbally, byletter, as part of their contract subject to a,b,c happening etc ?
Don’t do twitter otherwise I’d ask him
Surely we are in the end game?
Cutting corners stops. For instance checking every nut and bolt on a piece of machinery before starting it up. Filling out every little bit of paperwork to confirm what you’ve done. Lots of it is on the grounds of safety so there’s not a lot the firm can do about it.
Every time I think Roland has sunk to a new low, he finds a way to sink further. Does Belgium have a sports minister... maybe someone from CARD could pass them this email/letter exchange for their thoughts?
Else its like wondering why the comms team instead of posting news and efl adverts dont just constantly tweet all the crap that Roland has done
The letter goes onto talk about the staff working above and beyond their contractural requirements for the good of the club. RD and his board, Richard Murray, are the ones that have quite clearly not met their targets due to complete mismanagement off the field.
However leaving this to one side, the biggest ‘crime’ here is NOT to tell the staff until some 20 days after the bonuses should have been paid that they are not getting them. That is not excuseable and shows a cowardly streak by both of the aforementioned people.
It can’t have been a surprise to RD/RM that the club were going to have a bad financial year (if it was a surprise then there is no hope for us while these two Charlie’s are in charge), so why not tell the staff the bonuses promised weren’t coming a few months ago? Perhaps when the season finished? To not say anything is indefensible and not how ANY business should be run.
My advice to the staff is work your contracted hours, refuse to do anything outside of your job description. That’s not striking it’s doing just what you’re paid to do, nothing more nothing less.
RD needs to understand he can’t treat his staff this way, and I have to ask what RM is doing while this is going on.
This stinks of an owner who, despite being a millionaire, is a vindictive person with no clue about people who, perhaps, worked really hard to get their bonus, achieved targets, only to be told “sorry we’ve screwed up you get nothing”
All fans, should stand up for what’s right and moral, not trying to defend the indefensible.
I’m not a member of any group, just an individual old person that thinks this stinks more than anything else this owner has done over the last 4 years.