I’ve been thinking, the most senior member of staff that this might affect is the COO. If he’s as pissed if as the admin staff, he might think, sod it, I’m off
Let's face it, the feel-good at his leaving would probably boost productivity by 20%.
I’ve been thinking, the most senior member of staff that this might affect is the COO. If he’s as pissed if as the admin staff, he might think, sod it, I’m off
Let's face it, the feel-good at his leaving would probably boost productivity by 20%.
I’ve been thinking, the most senior member of staff that this might affect is the COO. If he’s as pissed if as the admin staff, he might think, sod it, I’m off
Let's face it, the feel-good at his leaving would probably boost productivity by 20%.
True. But if the COO stays, he might be standing to lose more than anyone else, and could be the most bitter of them all. Poacher turned gamekeeper?
Who knows - my sympathy is most for the junior staff who could have been seriously relying on this bonus to balance their own books.
There's a great idea there in the making for CARD...
Remember the Linekar Walker's crisps advert? All I can remember is an old joke flavour 'Salt 'n' Seamen (after Garry Seamen- can't remember what Linekar's flavour was). Anyway, if someone in the design team at CARD could come up with the packaging for a 'Vinger Piss' flavour and send him a packet/or each staff member at the Valley, that would be a great publicity stunt. I'm not sure anyone would actually want to eat a packet of Vinegar Piss crisps but heh?! There are other variations on a theme.
One other thought - to send stuff to Roland (and B20 already know his address), send stuff recorded delivery. I think it costs about £6 for Europe. I'm sure the codger would be delighted to receive a pack of his fave Vinegar Piss crisps!!!
Even if I try really hard to ignore your calling of Gary Lineker, Linekar, I can’t not call you out on Garry Seamen, where the fudge did you rustle that one up from?
Even if I try really hard to ignore your calling of Gary Lineker, Linekar, I can’t not call you out on Garry Seamen, where the fudge did you rustle that one up from?
Even if I try really hard to ignore your calling of Gary Lineker, Linekar, I can’t not call you out on Garry Seamen, where the fudge did you rustle that one up from?
There's a great idea there in the making for CARD...
Remember the Linekar Walker's crisps advert? All I can remember is an old joke flavour 'Salt 'n' Seamen (after Garry Seamen- can't remember what Linekar's flavour was). Anyway, if someone in the design team at CARD could come up with the packaging for a 'Vinger Piss' flavour and send him a packet/or each staff member at the Valley, that would be a great publicity stunt. I'm not sure anyone would actually want to eat a packet of Vinegar Piss crisps but heh?! There are other variations on a theme.
One other thought - to send stuff to Roland (and B20 already know his address), send stuff recorded delivery. I think it costs about £6 for Europe. I'm sure the codger would be delighted to receive a pack of his fave Vinegar Piss crisps!!!
They really tried to sell Seamen flavoured crisps? What marketing genius came up with that?
They really tried to sell Seamen flavoured crisps? What marketing genius came up with that?
No, no, no... Lineker did the adverts but there was a playground joke (must have been office joke, I was out of short trousers by then) that Walkers had a salt n seamen variety.
Then again, nothing that Rubashow and his band did would surprise me!
There's a great idea there in the making for CARD...
Remember the Linekar Walker's crisps advert? All I can remember is an old joke flavour 'Salt 'n' Seamen (after Garry Seamen- can't remember what Linekar's flavour was). Anyway, if someone in the design team at CARD could come up with the packaging for a 'Vinger Piss' flavour and send him a packet/or each staff member at the Valley, that would be a great publicity stunt. I'm not sure anyone would actually want to eat a packet of Vinegar Piss crisps but heh?! There are other variations on a theme.
One other thought - to send stuff to Roland (and B20 already know his address), send stuff recorded delivery. I think it costs about £6 for Europe. I'm sure the codger would be delighted to receive a pack of his fave Vinegar Piss crisps!!!
They really tried to sell Seamen flavoured crisps? What marketing genius came up with that?
Well, bugger me, some marketing genius has actually come up with it... it takes the Pot Noodle theory to a whole different level...
If only I’d realised I could have called upon the support of CARD in those years when my employer made a loss and I didn’t get paid a bonus...
If only Roland could rely on more people like you to support his imaginative and innovative leadership of the club all the way to the Conference...
I think in this case he doesn’t need my support to do that, he’s got CARD. The Sunday editorials could have a field day with this and they might just support the employer in this instance because, I suspect, most of the employees in this country don’t get a bonus, especially if the firm they work didn’t make a profit, unless of course they are contractually entitled to it, in which case i would have thought it would be less awkward for the employees if CARD didn’t make a big fuss.
I was eating my crisps at my desk as a show of solidarity with the Charlton employees and tried to flick a crumb off the screen of my iPhone and it posted the full stop
@iainment I sincerely hope that if you have kids their teachers do not share your attitude! Because, believe me, schools would be unable to function without many hours of unpaid overtime done by the staff.
I am sure education is far from being unique (and I don't mean weird) in this respect, but it is a profession of which I have long experience, and can therefore speak with personal knowledge.
It's unsustainable then. What happens when the goodwill is exhausted? Fair pay for what is worked is not too much to ask for. The vocation myth is just that and it relies on people accepting being lied to about their contracts and being exploited. There are very few bosses who go above and beyond for their staff unless it helps their career. However there are loads of bosses who expect more than what is contracted for from their staff. Usually with scant recognition.
I'd be interested to know what sort of "bubble" you work in. I worked over and beyond from the first day at work, until the day I retired.
Stick me work van and all the tools in it that it's local government
Did 12 years in local gov and just like anywhere else there were plenty who worked significantly above and beyond for diddly squat.
Certainly no overtime or bonuses and generally not the greatest pay in the world.
There are certain jobs where people work unpaid time, not because they want to, or because they care, or because of pay. If a teacher organized a school trip, and tells the parents to be at the school gate at 9pm to pick up their kids, the teacher can't bog off at 9 if there are still little kids waiting to be collected, they would have to remain there until half past midnight or beyond if necessary. This kind of shit happens regularly to teachers.
Likewise my wife who is a social worker who can regularly go in at 7am, do a full day, then at 5pm get a call that one of the children from one of her cases has been arrested and as the corporate parent she has to attend the police station and will have to remain until the issue has completed, even if that is 2am.
But it’s her Mums birthday meal that night....tough. Overtime or time in lieu? from a local authority? Do me a favour!
Work to rule? When you have extremely vulnerable children’s well-being under your responsibility!!
There are certain jobs where people work unpaid time, not because they want to, or because they care, or because of pay. If a teacher organized a school trip, and tells the parents to be at the school gate at 9pm to pick up their kids, the teacher can't bog off at 9 if there are still little kids waiting to be collected, they would have to remain there until half past midnight or beyond if necessary. This kind of shit happens regularly to teachers.
Likewise my wife who is a social worker who can regularly go in at 7am, do a full day, then at 5pm get a call that one of the children from one of her cases has been arrested and as the corporate parent she has to attend the police station and will have to remain until the issue has completed, even if that is 2am.
But it’s her Mums birthday meal that night....tough. Overtime or time in lieu? from a local authority? Do me a favour!
Work to rule? When you have extremely vulnerable children’s well-being under your responsibility!!
Which is exactly what is wrong and why people who work in the social care game are leaving in droves.
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Who knows - my sympathy is most for the junior staff who could have been seriously relying on this bonus to balance their own books.
Sorry @Fumbluff - I have my sources!!!
They really tried to sell Seamen flavoured crisps? What marketing genius came up with that?
No, no, no... Lineker did the adverts but there was a playground joke (must have been office joke, I was out of short trousers by then) that Walkers had a salt n seamen variety.
Then again, nothing that Rubashow and his band did would surprise me!
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Nik Nak Pope
Crisp Powell
Matt Fry
Dave Chip-perley
Tyrells Thomas
Paul Bacon
Kevin Smiths
Phil Walkers
Tayto-ny Towner
Tony Wotsit
Martin Pringles
Certainly no overtime or bonuses and generally not the greatest pay in the world.
But it’s her Mums birthday meal that night....tough. Overtime or time in lieu? from a local authority? Do me a favour!
Work to rule? When you have extremely vulnerable children’s well-being under your responsibility!!
That would explain a few things.
Let’s hope this is rock bottom, but I think I’ve thought that to myself on quite a few occasions over the last couple of years.