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CAFC staff threaten to sue Duchatelet over unpaid bonuses

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  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,971

    IdleHans said:

    Hotel Stayen is on Booking.com. If you book a room it seems you can cancel 48 hours before and pay nothing. If enough of us do that, it'll hit him in the pocket and cost us nothing.

    A 'good' breakfast is £11.

    Good idea. I wish I'd thought of that.
    So you did. Have a like.
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,421
    RedChaser said:

    RedChaser said:

    I reckon Roly has clearly asked for financial cuts to be made at any cost even if it does involve the staff themselves and for that you ask a crawly bum licker filthy pond life slime ball to carry out this filthy act, can anyone think of one .

    Slightly off topic and not sure if it has been mentioned before but it was alleged to me at the weekend that following the stop go works at the training ground and serious problems with Foots Cray Rugby Club's car park, writs had been served on the club in the absence of remedial works. So sounds like it's far from plain sailing for a certain individual at the moment. :open_mouth:
    Someone mentioned to me that Foots Cray Rugby Club are extremely unhappy with how they have been impacted / treated
    My source is very much ITK on this issue and our COO has not covered himself in glory

    IdleHans said:

    Hotel Stayen is on Booking.com. If you book a room it seems you can cancel 48 hours before and pay nothing. If enough of us do that, it'll hit him in the pocket and cost us nothing.

    A 'good' breakfast is £11.

    Seems you can book a room for 30-days on there so if you keep repeating you should be able to stop anyone else ever booking
    Ive had to cancel 3 times after something came up. ;)
  • Dippenhall
    Dippenhall Posts: 3,919
    Not wanting an argument but I'm correct. Ask the footballers who were taxed on bonuses they didn't receive that we're sacrificed to avoid tax. They were taxed on the basis of contractual entitlement, nothing to do with what went through PAYE, otherwise tax would be avoided all the time. PAYE is a system of collecting tax that goes through PAYE, not a system for identifying tax liability.

    HMRC page:

    For PAYE purposes
    If the employee isn’t a director, operate PAYE on the earlier of when:

    you actually make the payment
    the employee is entitled to be paid, even if the pay isn’t drawn until later


    The last few words are reflecting the legal basis of tax lability being tax is paid when you are entitled to receive what you are due.

    Not saying HMRC would enforce it in this case but it's an exposure over which they are entitled to have concerns.
  • addick05
    addick05 Posts: 2,348
    IdleHans said:

    Hotel Stayen is on Booking.com. If you book a room it seems you can cancel 48 hours before and pay nothing. If enough of us do that, it'll hit him in the pocket and cost us nothing.

    A 'good' breakfast is £11.

    Bring you own knife and fork!

  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    IdleHans said:

    Hotel Stayen is on Booking.com. If you book a room it seems you can cancel 48 hours before and pay nothing. If enough of us do that, it'll hit him in the pocket and cost us nothing.

    A 'good' breakfast is £11.

    After 5 cancelled bookings at the same Hotel, booking.com won't allow you to book there again without paying first.

    Bit you can still book without paying and free cancellation at hotels.com.

    Or so I've been told :wink:
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    Addickted said:

    IdleHans said:

    Hotel Stayen is on Booking.com. If you book a room it seems you can cancel 48 hours before and pay nothing. If enough of us do that, it'll hit him in the pocket and cost us nothing.

    A 'good' breakfast is £11.

    After 5 cancelled bookings at the same Hotel, booking.com won't allow you to book there again without paying first.

    Bit you can still book without paying and free cancellation at hotels.com.

    Or so I've been told :wink:
    It would be outrageous if Hotel Stayen was fully booked until RD sold up.
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,421
    Addickted said:

    IdleHans said:

    Hotel Stayen is on Booking.com. If you book a room it seems you can cancel 48 hours before and pay nothing. If enough of us do that, it'll hit him in the pocket and cost us nothing.

    A 'good' breakfast is £11.

    After 5 cancelled bookings at the same Hotel, booking.com won't allow you to book there again without paying first.

    Bit you can still book without paying and free cancellation at hotels.com.

    Or so I've been told :wink:
    Apparently if you use different email addresses all is good. ;)
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,829
    how did it end on the Jim White show?
  • how did it end on the Jim White show?

    Jim’s booked a 7 night stay in Roland’s hotel, at booking.com apparently.
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  • cafcpolo
    cafcpolo Posts: 3,813
    Surely we can get Piers Morgan to hack his phone and get the number for us!
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344

    how did it end on the Jim White show?

    The whole thing was about 3 minutes no more and it finished with Jim saying not to worry Charlton fans, I will keep trying to contact him until I get an answer
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,128

    how did it end on the Jim White show?

    The whole thing was about 3 minutes no more and it finished with Jim saying not to worry Charlton fans, I will keep trying to contact him until I get an answer
    Tw@tter him up and ask him if he’s still chasing him?
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Fumbluff said:

    how did it end on the Jim White show?

    The whole thing was about 3 minutes no more and it finished with Jim saying not to worry Charlton fans, I will keep trying to contact him until I get an answer
    Tw@tter him up and ask him if he’s still chasing him?
    Done that no reply from Jim
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    Hmm, will they be told you can have your bonuses, at the expense of redundancies?
  • Ross
    Ross Posts: 4,412

    Hmm, will they be told you can have your bonuses, at the expense of redundancies?

    At the expense of that extra midfielder that Bowyer wants...
  • N01R4M
    N01R4M Posts: 2,577
    Ross said:

    Hmm, will they be told you can have your bonuses, at the expense of redundancies?

    At the expense of that extra midfielder that Bowyer wants...
    not to mention setting up a convenient excuse for vetoing any discussion of the issue at the Fans' Forum meeting?
  • PeterGage
    PeterGage Posts: 1,793

    iainment said:

    RedChaser said:

    RedChaser said:

    I reckon Roly has clearly asked for financial cuts to be made at any cost even if it does involve the staff themselves and for that you ask a crawly bum licker filthy pond life slime ball to carry out this filthy act, can anyone think of one .

    Slightly off topic and not sure if it has been mentioned before but it was alleged to me at the weekend that following the stop go works at the training ground and serious problems with Foots Cray Rugby Club's car park, writs had been served on the club in the absence of remedial works. So sounds like it's far from plain sailing for a certain individual at the moment. :open_mouth:
    Someone mentioned to me that Foots Cray Rugby Club are extremely unhappy with how they have been impacted / treated
    My source is very much ITK on this issue and our COO has not covered himself in glory in his dealings or lack of allegedly hence the need for legal action.
    I find that very hard easy to believe
    Unverified rumours? You believe them? Mightn't they effect any legal action?
    How irresponsible you are to keep this out in the open.
    1. I didn't start a thread with a title stating it was a fact ie no question mark

    2. The matter isn't about individual's personal finances, unlike yours

    3. Move on
    It absolutely beggars belief that people still go to the home games and thus put money into RDs pocket. What will it take for them to wake up and smell the coffee.
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  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,683
    PeterGage said:

    iainment said:

    RedChaser said:

    RedChaser said:

    I reckon Roly has clearly asked for financial cuts to be made at any cost even if it does involve the staff themselves and for that you ask a crawly bum licker filthy pond life slime ball to carry out this filthy act, can anyone think of one .

    Slightly off topic and not sure if it has been mentioned before but it was alleged to me at the weekend that following the stop go works at the training ground and serious problems with Foots Cray Rugby Club's car park, writs had been served on the club in the absence of remedial works. So sounds like it's far from plain sailing for a certain individual at the moment. :open_mouth:
    Someone mentioned to me that Foots Cray Rugby Club are extremely unhappy with how they have been impacted / treated
    My source is very much ITK on this issue and our COO has not covered himself in glory in his dealings or lack of allegedly hence the need for legal action.
    I find that very hard easy to believe
    Unverified rumours? You believe them? Mightn't they effect any legal action?
    How irresponsible you are to keep this out in the open.
    1. I didn't start a thread with a title stating it was a fact ie no question mark

    2. The matter isn't about individual's personal finances, unlike yours

    3. Move on
    It absolutely beggars belief that people still go to the home games and thus put money into RDs pocket. What will it take for them to wake up and smell the coffee.
    Totally agree with your reasoning.
    But breaking a lifetime habit that in some cases has been in excess of 50 or 60 years is very hard to do.
    Personally I have been supporting this club home and away since 1967.

    But this will be my last season if Roland is still here next season.
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    _MrDick said:

    The bottom line to all of this is the ‘boycott’ and ‘not a penny more’ campaigns are starting to bite. In business, cash is king and with a reduction in attendances, cost saving at the margins, sale of players etc, the cash flow is taking a pounding which means Le Rat is now having to put his hand in Le pocket far too often for his liking. What needs to happen now is for a creditor to take him to court over unpaid bills and the court sends in the bailiffs. Really feel for the staff, it’s not nice and would happily contribute to a fund to support any legal action. Hopefully this will be resolved sooner rather than later.

    Exactly right.

    And thus this is the right time to make a plea. If you are still going to watch Charlton at the Valley, please help add to the economic pressure on Duchatelet by not purchasing anything other than your ticket from the club. Hospitality, mascot packages, merchandise from the club shop, food and drink etc - starve him of cash flow, increase the economic burden, make it so uncomfortable for him that he'll be desperate to sell. That will help to get rid of the Duchatelet virus from our club.
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,765
    I believe Delaware North hold the catering contract so I doubt that this would affect RD.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,652
    edited August 2018
    Roland’s main revenue from fans is season tickets, which is why Ive refused to buy one for the last 3 seasons, I know it’s probably hurt me more than it has him if truth be told, I just want rid of him.
  • PeterGage
    PeterGage Posts: 1,793

    PeterGage said:

    iainment said:

    RedChaser said:

    RedChaser said:

    I reckon Roly has clearly asked for financial cuts to be made at any cost even if it does involve the staff themselves and for that you ask a crawly bum licker filthy pond life slime ball to carry out this filthy act, can anyone think of one .

    Slightly off topic and not sure if it has been mentioned before but it was alleged to me at the weekend that following the stop go works at the training ground and serious problems with Foots Cray Rugby Club's car park, writs had been served on the club in the absence of remedial works. So sounds like it's far from plain sailing for a certain individual at the moment. :open_mouth:
    Someone mentioned to me that Foots Cray Rugby Club are extremely unhappy with how they have been impacted / treated
    My source is very much ITK on this issue and our COO has not covered himself in glory in his dealings or lack of allegedly hence the need for legal action.
    I find that very hard easy to believe
    Unverified rumours? You believe them? Mightn't they effect any legal action?
    How irresponsible you are to keep this out in the open.
    1. I didn't start a thread with a title stating it was a fact ie no question mark

    2. The matter isn't about individual's personal finances, unlike yours

    3. Move on
    It absolutely beggars belief that people still go to the home games and thus put money into RDs pocket. What will it take for them to wake up and smell the coffee.
    Totally agree with your reasoning.
    But breaking a lifetime habit that in some cases has been in excess of 50 or 60 years is very hard to do.
    Personally I have been supporting this club home and away since 1967.

    But this will be my last season if Roland is still here next season.
    Not a dig, but a"lifetime habit". I saw my first game in 1953 and have been a regular attendee. Not been to a home for 3years (apart for the PC Palmer game against MK Dons) but I do go to some convenient away games.

    I dont buy the "lifetime habit" line. Sometines we all have to suffer short term pain for long term gain.
  • N01R4M
    N01R4M Posts: 2,577
    I'm sure if Delaware North find they are running at a loss, they will soon give Roland earache!

    It also would not surprise me if the contract gave RD a % of the profits.
  • PeterGage
    PeterGage Posts: 1,793
    Davo55 said:

    A few people have mentioned the idea of some kind of financial support to help the Charlton staff in their fight to get what's owed to them.

    Obviously, details are sketchy at this stage. We don't know the structure of the bonus scheme, the detail in the "small print", the numbers of staff affected or the amounts involved. Even when all this is known, we don't know whether the staff concerned will want to pursue a claim at an employment tribunal or any other legal route.

    However, @Curb_It and I have now ring-fenced £1000 of the protest fund to be used to help with any initial legal or other related expenses that may be incurred. In the event that this additional funds are required, we envisage that a separate support fund will be set up and donations sought.

    The question of whether there is a sound basis for a legal challenge remains to be answered. But whatever the answer to this, there can surely be no doubt that Charlton are under a moral obligation to pay these staff what's due. I am sure that many fans, whether boycotting or not, will get behind any action that is proposed to get a successful and just outcome for the Charlton staff.

    Well done Alan and Brenda. You can count upon my financial support, if it comes to that.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,683
    PeterGage said:

    PeterGage said:

    iainment said:

    RedChaser said:

    RedChaser said:

    I reckon Roly has clearly asked for financial cuts to be made at any cost even if it does involve the staff themselves and for that you ask a crawly bum licker filthy pond life slime ball to carry out this filthy act, can anyone think of one .

    Slightly off topic and not sure if it has been mentioned before but it was alleged to me at the weekend that following the stop go works at the training ground and serious problems with Foots Cray Rugby Club's car park, writs had been served on the club in the absence of remedial works. So sounds like it's far from plain sailing for a certain individual at the moment. :open_mouth:
    Someone mentioned to me that Foots Cray Rugby Club are extremely unhappy with how they have been impacted / treated
    My source is very much ITK on this issue and our COO has not covered himself in glory in his dealings or lack of allegedly hence the need for legal action.
    I find that very hard easy to believe
    Unverified rumours? You believe them? Mightn't they effect any legal action?
    How irresponsible you are to keep this out in the open.
    1. I didn't start a thread with a title stating it was a fact ie no question mark

    2. The matter isn't about individual's personal finances, unlike yours

    3. Move on
    It absolutely beggars belief that people still go to the home games and thus put money into RDs pocket. What will it take for them to wake up and smell the coffee.
    Totally agree with your reasoning.
    But breaking a lifetime habit that in some cases has been in excess of 50 or 60 years is very hard to do.
    Personally I have been supporting this club home and away since 1967.

    But this will be my last season if Roland is still here next season.
    Not a dig, but a"lifetime habit". I saw my first game in 1953 and have been a regular attendee. Not been to a home for 3years (apart for the PC Palmer game against MK Dons) but I do go to some convenient away games.

    I dont buy the "lifetime habit" line. Sometines we all have to suffer short term pain for long term gain.
    We are on the same side here mate so I'm not going to argue with you.

    The bottom line is that as soon as scrotumface sells we can all start signing from the same page.
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,765
    N01R4M said:

    I'm sure if Delaware North find they are running at a loss, they will soon give Roland earache!

    It also would not surprise me if the contract gave RD a % of the profits.

    You're probably right, not like RD to miss a money making scheme!