Calling somebody stupid is one thing. Does ca!long somebody a stupid woman make you an eternal card carrying misogynist? For the absence of doubt he definitely said it. Personally I wouldn't have used the word stupid or woman when describing her. There are other words.
Bloody hell Seth. I wonder what this bloke would have to do to lose your favour.
Where have I said I favour him?
Your defence of him in the face of mounting evidence against him, including misogynistic comments made by him just moments ago, suggests that you do.
Is calling the Prime Minister of this country a “stupid woman” abhorrent and unfitting of a person who wants to lead the Opposition (and one day the country)?
I am not defending him. I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
Seth, that is a CL all time classic.
I'm not defending him I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
Simply brilliant.
Fixed that for you.
Sometimes truth does have a simple beauty.
Yet you choose to ignore it?
In answer to your question. No, I do not choose to ignore it, however I often choose to seek it.
You choose to find excuses and not accept it, more like.
"No M'Lud, although he was standing over the body, holding the bloodied knife, I chose to see a different thing".
Calling somebody stupid is one thing. Does ca!long somebody a stupid woman make you an eternal card carrying misogynist? For the absence of doubt he definitely said it. Personally I wouldn't have used the word stupid or woman when describing her. There are other words.
Bloody hell Seth. I wonder what this bloke would have to do to lose your favour.
Where have I said I favour him?
Your defence of him in the face of mounting evidence against him, including misogynistic comments made by him just moments ago, suggests that you do.
Is calling the Prime Minister of this country a “stupid woman” abhorrent and unfitting of a person who wants to lead the Opposition (and one day the country)?
I am not defending him. I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
Seth, that is a CL all time classic.
I'm not defending him I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
Simply brilliant.
Fixed that for you.
Sometimes truth does have a simple beauty.
Yet you choose to ignore it?
In answer to your question. No, I do not choose to ignore it, however I often choose to seek it.
You choose to find excuses and not accept it, more like.
"No M'Lud, although he was standing over the body, holding the bloodied knife, I chose to see a different thing".
"but can you prove I am not accepting it?" - Seth, probably.
Although I'm personally not bothered about Corbyn calling May a stupid woman, I can absolutely guarantee if a Tory MP had said it about a female Labour MP, there would be outrage.
Double standards
Have you not seen whats been written on here, or on Twitter. There's defintely been outrage about it. Double standards haven't been applied at all.
We really need cross party cooperation to "resolve" the Brexit crisis and what do we get. MP's arguing the toss over whether or not Corbyn muttered "stupid woman" under his breath. It really is too pathetic for words.
It then escalated to Leadsom saying the Speaker had called her stupid, but he didn't apologise in the House either.
@NickGriffinBU Follow Follow @NickGriffinBU More Go Jezza! I wonder how many Labour activists the hysterical #Zionist media campaign against #Corbyn is re-pilling?
Now, I think that what Griffin says is antisemitic but I'm sure @seth plum will ask for some more evidence
Calling somebody stupid is one thing. Does ca!long somebody a stupid woman make you an eternal card carrying misogynist? For the absence of doubt he definitely said it. Personally I wouldn't have used the word stupid or woman when describing her. There are other words.
Bloody hell Seth. I wonder what this bloke would have to do to lose your favour.
Where have I said I favour him?
Your defence of him in the face of mounting evidence against him, including misogynistic comments made by him just moments ago, suggests that you do.
Is calling the Prime Minister of this country a “stupid woman” abhorrent and unfitting of a person who wants to lead the Opposition (and one day the country)?
I am not defending him. I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
Seth, that is a CL all time classic.
I'm not defending him I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
Simply brilliant.
Fixed that for you.
Sometimes truth does have a simple beauty.
Yet you choose to ignore it?
In answer to your question. No, I do not choose to ignore it, however I often choose to seek it.
You choose to find excuses and not accept it, more like.
"No M'Lud, although he was standing over the body, holding the bloodied knife, I chose to see a different thing".
You are simply wrong. I have not denied or excused anything, I have looked at the evidence, indeed a week or so ago Henry invited me to look at his 100 pieces of 'evidence' and weigh each of them up. (it was in a conversation about the use of the word 'abundance' I believe). The key bit that you have written is the word 'accept'. Accept it because you say so? If you're saying 'accept it because it is true', then forgive me if I choose to examine things to decide for myself if it is true rather than simply 'accepting it' because others say so.
Calling somebody stupid is one thing. Does ca!long somebody a stupid woman make you an eternal card carrying misogynist? For the absence of doubt he definitely said it. Personally I wouldn't have used the word stupid or woman when describing her. There are other words.
Bloody hell Seth. I wonder what this bloke would have to do to lose your favour.
Where have I said I favour him?
Your defence of him in the face of mounting evidence against him, including misogynistic comments made by him just moments ago, suggests that you do.
Is calling the Prime Minister of this country a “stupid woman” abhorrent and unfitting of a person who wants to lead the Opposition (and one day the country)?
I am not defending him. I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
Seth, that is a CL all time classic.
I'm not defending him I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
Simply brilliant.
Fixed that for you.
Sometimes truth does have a simple beauty.
Yet you choose to ignore it?
In answer to your question. No, I do not choose to ignore it, however I often choose to seek it.
You choose to find excuses and not accept it, more like.
"No M'Lud, although he was standing over the body, holding the bloodied knife, I chose to see a different thing".
"but can you prove I am not accepting it?" - Seth, probably.
Calling somebody stupid is one thing. Does ca!long somebody a stupid woman make you an eternal card carrying misogynist? For the absence of doubt he definitely said it. Personally I wouldn't have used the word stupid or woman when describing her. There are other words.
Bloody hell Seth. I wonder what this bloke would have to do to lose your favour.
Where have I said I favour him?
Your defence of him in the face of mounting evidence against him, including misogynistic comments made by him just moments ago, suggests that you do.
Is calling the Prime Minister of this country a “stupid woman” abhorrent and unfitting of a person who wants to lead the Opposition (and one day the country)?
I am not defending him. I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
Seth, that is a CL all time classic.
I'm not defending him I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
Simply brilliant.
Fixed that for you.
Sometimes truth does have a simple beauty.
Yet you choose to ignore it?
In answer to your question. No, I do not choose to ignore it, however I often choose to seek it.
You choose to find excuses and not accept it, more like.
"No M'Lud, although he was standing over the body, holding the bloodied knife, I chose to see a different thing".
"but can you prove I am not accepting it?" - Seth, probably.
@NickGriffinBU Follow Follow @NickGriffinBU More Go Jezza! I wonder how many Labour activists the hysterical #Zionist media campaign against #Corbyn is re-pilling?
Now, I think that what Griffin says is antisemitic but I'm sure @seth plum will ask for some more evidence
Corbyn refers to 'the Zionists who were in the audience'...listen back. If that is an example of anti-semitism then I simply disagree.
@NickGriffinBU Follow Follow @NickGriffinBU More Go Jezza! I wonder how many Labour activists the hysterical #Zionist media campaign against #Corbyn is re-pilling?
Now, I think that what Griffin says is antisemitic but I'm sure @seth plum will ask for some more evidence
Corbyn refers to 'the Zionists who were in the audience'...listen back. If that is an example of anti-semitism then I simply disagree.
You have outdone yourself @seth plum you really have.
@NickGriffinBU Follow Follow @NickGriffinBU More Go Jezza! I wonder how many Labour activists the hysterical #Zionist media campaign against #Corbyn is re-pilling?
Now, I think that what Griffin says is antisemitic but I'm sure @seth plum will ask for some more evidence
Corbyn refers to 'the Zionists who were in the audience'...listen back. If that is an example of anti-semitism then I simply disagree.
Calling somebody stupid is one thing. Does ca!long somebody a stupid woman make you an eternal card carrying misogynist? For the absence of doubt he definitely said it. Personally I wouldn't have used the word stupid or woman when describing her. There are other words.
Bloody hell Seth. I wonder what this bloke would have to do to lose your favour.
Where have I said I favour him?
Your defence of him in the face of mounting evidence against him, including misogynistic comments made by him just moments ago, suggests that you do.
Is calling the Prime Minister of this country a “stupid woman” abhorrent and unfitting of a person who wants to lead the Opposition (and one day the country)?
I am not defending him. I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
Seth, that is a CL all time classic.
I'm not defending him I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
Simply brilliant.
Fixed that for you.
Sometimes truth does have a simple beauty.
Yet you choose to ignore it?
In answer to your question. No, I do not choose to ignore it, however I often choose to seek it.
You choose to find excuses and not accept it, more like.
"No M'Lud, although he was standing over the body, holding the bloodied knife, I chose to see a different thing".
You are simply wrong. I have not denied or excused anything, I have looked at the evidence, indeed a week or so ago Henry invited me to look at his 100 pieces of 'evidence' and weigh each of them up. (it was in a conversation about the use of the word 'abundance' I believe). The key bit that you have written is the word 'accept'. Accept it because you say so? If you're saying 'accept it because it is true', then forgive me if I choose to examine things to decide for myself if it is true rather than simply 'accepting it' because others say so.
No, the key word is 'excuses'.
One you continue to make as you don't like, or agree with, the facts.
Calling somebody stupid is one thing. Does ca!long somebody a stupid woman make you an eternal card carrying misogynist? For the absence of doubt he definitely said it. Personally I wouldn't have used the word stupid or woman when describing her. There are other words.
Bloody hell Seth. I wonder what this bloke would have to do to lose your favour.
Where have I said I favour him?
Your defence of him in the face of mounting evidence against him, including misogynistic comments made by him just moments ago, suggests that you do.
Is calling the Prime Minister of this country a “stupid woman” abhorrent and unfitting of a person who wants to lead the Opposition (and one day the country)?
I am not defending him. I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
Seth, that is a CL all time classic.
I'm not defending him I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
Simply brilliant.
Fixed that for you.
Sometimes truth does have a simple beauty.
Yet you choose to ignore it?
In answer to your question. No, I do not choose to ignore it, however I often choose to seek it.
You choose to find excuses and not accept it, more like.
"No M'Lud, although he was standing over the body, holding the bloodied knife, I chose to see a different thing".
You are simply wrong. I have not denied or excused anything, I have looked at the evidence, indeed a week or so ago Henry invited me to look at his 100 pieces of 'evidence' and weigh each of them up. (it was in a conversation about the use of the word 'abundance' I believe). The key bit that you have written is the word 'accept'. Accept it because you say so? If you're saying 'accept it because it is true', then forgive me if I choose to examine things to decide for myself if it is true rather than simply 'accepting it' because others say so.
No, the key word is 'excuses'.
One you continue to make as you don't like, or agree with, the facts.
You are simply wrong. You may define facts to suit yourself, I am prepared to examine what is purported to be a 'fact'.
Calling somebody stupid is one thing. Does ca!long somebody a stupid woman make you an eternal card carrying misogynist? For the absence of doubt he definitely said it. Personally I wouldn't have used the word stupid or woman when describing her. There are other words.
Bloody hell Seth. I wonder what this bloke would have to do to lose your favour.
Where have I said I favour him?
Your defence of him in the face of mounting evidence against him, including misogynistic comments made by him just moments ago, suggests that you do.
Is calling the Prime Minister of this country a “stupid woman” abhorrent and unfitting of a person who wants to lead the Opposition (and one day the country)?
I am not defending him. I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
Seth, that is a CL all time classic.
I'm not defending him I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
Simply brilliant.
Fixed that for you.
Sometimes truth does have a simple beauty.
Yet you choose to ignore it?
In answer to your question. No, I do not choose to ignore it, however I often choose to seek it.
You choose to find excuses and not accept it, more like.
"No M'Lud, although he was standing over the body, holding the bloodied knife, I chose to see a different thing".
You are simply wrong. I have not denied or excused anything, I have looked at the evidence, indeed a week or so ago Henry invited me to look at his 100 pieces of 'evidence' and weigh each of them up. (it was in a conversation about the use of the word 'abundance' I believe). The key bit that you have written is the word 'accept'. Accept it because you say so? If you're saying 'accept it because it is true', then forgive me if I choose to examine things to decide for myself if it is true rather than simply 'accepting it' because others say so.
No, the key word is 'excuses'.
One you continue to make as you don't like, or agree with, the facts.
You are simply wrong. You may define facts to suit yourself, I am prepared to examine what is purported to be a 'fact'.
@NickGriffinBU Follow Follow @NickGriffinBU More Go Jezza! I wonder how many Labour activists the hysterical #Zionist media campaign against #Corbyn is re-pilling?
Now, I think that what Griffin says is antisemitic but I'm sure @seth plum will ask for some more evidence
Corbyn refers to 'the Zionists who were in the audience'...listen back. If that is an example of anti-semitism then I simply disagree.
You have outdone yourself @seth plum you really have.
@NickGriffinBU Follow Follow @NickGriffinBU More Go Jezza! I wonder how many Labour activists the hysterical #Zionist media campaign against #Corbyn is re-pilling?
Now, I think that what Griffin says is antisemitic but I'm sure @seth plum will ask for some more evidence
Corbyn refers to 'the Zionists who were in the audience'...listen back. If that is an example of anti-semitism then I simply disagree.
You have outdone yourself @seth plum you really have.
@NickGriffinBU Follow Follow @NickGriffinBU More Go Jezza! I wonder how many Labour activists the hysterical #Zionist media campaign against #Corbyn is re-pilling?
Now, I think that what Griffin says is antisemitic but I'm sure @seth plum will ask for some more evidence
Corbyn refers to 'the Zionists who were in the audience'...listen back. If that is an example of anti-semitism then I simply disagree.
You have outdone yourself @seth plum you really have.
Read it again
I have listened to it. Do I also need to read the Daily Mail's unbiased commentary on it as well? Does Corbyn say 'the Zionists who were in the audience'? I think if you listen you will hear him say that.
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"No M'Lud, although he was standing over the body, holding the bloodied knife, I chose to see a different thing".
"but can you prove I am not accepting it?" - Seth, probably.
MP's arguing the toss over whether or not Corbyn muttered "stupid woman" under his breath.
It really is too pathetic for words.
It then escalated to Leadsom saying the Speaker had called her stupid, but he didn't apologise in the House either.
Where's Guy Fawkes ?
The EU must be pissing themselves.
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Go Jezza! I wonder how many Labour activists the hysterical #Zionist media campaign against #Corbyn is re-pilling?
Now, I think that what Griffin says is antisemitic but I'm sure @seth plum will ask for some more evidence
GOTCHA
Maybe rather than attacking Griffin we should attempt to re-educate him?
(it was in a conversation about the use of the word 'abundance' I believe).
The key bit that you have written is the word 'accept'.
Accept it because you say so?
If you're saying 'accept it because it is true', then forgive me if I choose to examine things to decide for myself if it is true rather than simply 'accepting it' because others say so.
Swift action by the party too which is to be applauded.
By-election with a 600 majority should be interesting
If that is an example of anti-semitism then I simply disagree.
Please keep it up chaps.
You have outdone yourself @seth plum you really have.
Read it again
Other politicians do it other ways.
And yet again they're all at it.
One you continue to make as you don't like, or agree with, the facts.
You may define facts to suit yourself, I am prepared to examine what is purported to be a 'fact'.
Straight out the bannon playbook once again
Do I also need to read the Daily Mail's unbiased commentary on it as well?
Does Corbyn say 'the Zionists who were in the audience'?
I think if you listen you will hear him say that.