I was driving and had to pull over to listen. Rolly phoned in for sympathy and understanding and got ripped apart from Simon. Laughed out loud when Rolly said you can’t blame the staff and Simon said “I’m not. I’m blaming you”.
Whatever one thinks about the action taken in Belgium, it has certainly had a great outcome. Fans all over the country would have been listening to that with utter incredulity.
Thank you Simon. Nobody has done better at calling him out.
He thought his mate Jim White would be sucking him off but Simon Jordan was there and did us, and truth to be fair, proud. All is forgiven as far as I am concerned - I always thought Murray was out of order in relation to his behaviour towards him anyway. It was a situation that required some dignity.
I was driving and had to pull over to listen. Rolly phoned in for sympathy and understanding and got ripped apart from Simon. Laughed out loud when Rolly said you can’t blame the staff and Simon said “I’m not. I’m blaming you”.
Whatever one thinks about the action taken in Belgium, it has certainly had a great outcome. Fans all over the country would have been listening to that with utter incredulity.
Thank you Simon. Nobody has done better at calling him out.
This .... I thought he sounded like a pathetic old man
wow. from reading he comments I didn't think would be as bad as that. he's a bumbling old fool. it's almost hard to hate him because I don't think he's evil, he's just completely incompetent. I don't wish harm to him , but he must go. I'm still intrigued about the proposal. we shall see.
Could be the marmite effect , but could the trust/whoever not take up the offer of ‘taking the club off of his hands’ for free and let him keep the ‘real estate’ - least it’s a way of being halfway close to what we all want
It's the EFL's fault because they shouldn't allow foreign buyers for English clubs.
It's not RD's fault because he can only spare 2% of his time for Charlton. (I wonder if this is where KM got her 2% from).
It's the Charlton press officers fault.
The August protests put off the buyers (what August protests, I genuinely can't remember ? )
He's willing to sell the club for nothing and although he hinted there are now no buyers, he refused to say how much he wanted for the Real Estate, due to a NDA.
Jim White concluded the interview thanking RD. RD weirdly replied ok good.
Simon Jordan said to RD it is his fault.
SJ said for the love of God, RD is laughable and contemptible.
A proposal will be put to the fans at the fan's forum, because RD doesn't want to sell to a foreign buyer.
I seriously believe RD is mentally unstable and has been since he became involved in Charlton.
I think it may be worth considering another trip to Belgium.
good idea Sammy. they could then broker a deal. the problem is the trust would need investors to cover the running cost asap otherwise we could be worse off than we are now
Well worth listening if there's an audio clip online after, but from memory (and I was mostly just gawping at the radio, so may miss stuff) the conversation went along the lines of:
JW: Vandalism on your home is distressing RD: Said that it damaged a bunch of property, not just his, and his wife discovered it RD: Don't think there should be foreign owners generally, only has 2% of his time etc. for football SJ: Why did you buy it then? RD: Just wanted a normal club, blames rest of the staff (not those he brought in), then says that you can't blame everyone else SJ: No, I'm blaming you RD: Squirms, says he should never have done it, blames those working for him again JW: Brings it back to vandalism (vandalism is bad) SJ: Why haven't you sold yet? RD: Protests put off people buying it, price was agreed but fell apart because of protests SJ: No way, it's financial - how much do you want? RD: I'm giving it away for free, just got to pay for the land/assets SJ: So, how much do you want for assets? RD: Squirms, eventually lands on "NDA, can't tell you"
Jordan's summary after the break included...
"He's in the game but can't shoot straight" "His perspective, outlook and how he presented himself - just laughable" "For the love of god, some of the arguments he put forward... (said something else)... he's brought that upon himself" [although he does condemn the graffiti/physical acts against his property etc.] "As a former owner I feel contempt for him" [before that says he generally sympathises with owners]
White was a bit wet, but Jordan went in. Duchatelet came off horribly.
Sounds like Jim White was stocking up for his bestie by trying to divert to the Graffiti but SJ wouldnt let him.
Never said this before and never will again but well done Simon Jordan(going for a deep clean now)
Could be the marmite effect , but could the trust/whoever not take up the offer of ‘taking the club off of his hands’ for free and let him keep the ‘real estate’ - least it’s a way of being halfway close to what we all want
That's a more ridiculous comment than any of RD's. Let RD keep the £20/£30M worth of assets and the fans take on the £5M/£10M annual debt ?
The yellow toothed old scrote has absolutely no redeeming features . He even has me warming slightly to Simon Jordan ffs. Yet another reason to hate him.
The proposal could be that he will keep the assets and let the fans run the club - basically take on all the losses that his mismanagement has made worse. It is the sort of crap he could come out with! We all know, whatever it is, his proposal will be ridiculous and is likely to be damaging to the club.
Mind you, what if he allowed fans to run the club after being given a reasonable budget. The question would be which fans? But if I was advising him, I might advise him to do something along those lines.
Just listened to the first 10 mins. He definetly stated "for free + £20 million plus the land value. I hate JW, sucking up to him. SJ ws going at him and the weasel replied wityh "sorry to hear about the Vandlilsim". Well done SJ.
Could be the marmite effect , but could the trust/whoever not take up the offer of ‘taking the club off of his hands’ for free and let him keep the ‘real estate’ - least it’s a way of being halfway close to what we all want
That's a more ridiculous comment than any of RD's. Let RD keep the £20/£30M worth of assets and the fans take on the £5M/£10M annual debt ?
The debt is friendly - to charlton fans If I’m right in thinking... as you say , the running cost is the obvious problem - however is it necessarily hard to find that with share options- owning the club opens the financing and share option to many possibilities
say at the trust get the club and decide to sell 25% to fans/investors - then can then in theory charge any price and can structure it to then cover the running costs for a season or two
Could be the marmite effect , but could the trust/whoever not take up the offer of ‘taking the club off of his hands’ for free and let him keep the ‘real estate’ - least it’s a way of being halfway close to what we all want
That's a more ridiculous comment than any of RD's. Let RD keep the £20/£30M worth of assets and the fans take on the £5M/£10M annual debt ?
Exactly. He has to go - and have no further connection with Charlton. In other words total and unconditional surrender are the only acceptable terms, we should settle for nothing less.
Could be the marmite effect , but could the trust/whoever not take up the offer of ‘taking the club off of his hands’ for free and let him keep the ‘real estate’ - least it’s a way of being halfway close to what we all want
That's a more ridiculous comment than any of RD's. Let RD keep the £20/£30M worth of assets and the fans take on the £5M/£10M annual debt ?
The debt is friendly - to charlton fans If I’m right in thinking... as you say , the running cost is the obvious problem - however is it necessarily hard to find that with share options- owning the club opens the financing and share option to many possibilities
say at the trust get the club and decide to sell 25% to fans/investors - then can then in theory charge any price and can structure it to then cover the running costs for a season or two
And what then after a season or two ?
Who would buy the club with no assets and The Valley and SL owned by RD ?
Hypothetically if he is looking to do a deal/proposal to CAFC fans does that mean (we already know there are NO current negotiations going on). LDT will probably say 5 parties still interested with British (then at the Fans Forum) then if LDT says this then this can be questioned as Roland confirmed None today. Is he a desperate man now? I still don't get him "I don't know wy the EFL sell clubs to foreigners.. (yet, he was a foreigner buying the club and trying to sell to Australian (foreigners?). Are we at last coming to the end game. I never thought I would say this but SJ talks a lot sense. I think he is finally getting it (but won't admit), he is NEVER going to get his money back". What a shame SJ os not negotiating the sale. I am also trying to work out what LDT actually does.
What an absolute deluded buffoon Roland is. Pure comedy gold.
I think that Jim White is playing him brilliantly, with several mentions of the “distressing graffiti”. He gently cranked the pressure up as the interview went on, while Simon Jordan went decisively for the jugular.
I’d definitely welcome the opportunity to buy these two a pint. The more Roland is held up to the light and given an opportunity to make a tool of himself, the better.
Didn't like the way Jimmy White kept saying that RD's home was 'attacked', and 'vandalised' AND graffiti sprayed on the outside. That's very poor journalism, because to the listener it would sound like that the graffiti was only a part of what occurred. This guy cannot possibly a bona fide, trained journalist can he? Sport writer isn't the same thing at all.
Could be the marmite effect , but could the trust/whoever not take up the offer of ‘taking the club off of his hands’ for free and let him keep the ‘real estate’ - least it’s a way of being halfway close to what we all want
That's a more ridiculous comment than any of RD's. Let RD keep the £20/£30M worth of assets and the fans take on the £5M/£10M annual debt ?
The debt is friendly - to charlton fans If I’m right in thinking... as you say , the running cost is the obvious problem - however is it necessarily hard to find that with share options- owning the club opens the financing and share option to many possibilities
say at the trust get the club and decide to sell 25% to fans/investors - then can then in theory charge any price and can structure it to then cover the running costs for a season or two
And what then after a season or two ?
Who would buy the club with no assets and The Valley and SL owned by RD ?
Why is there no assets? Ok there isn’t real estate assets, but the stadium etc is almost impossible to convert to anything worth investing in aka housing etc. Anyway
the assets the ‘club’ do have is the players and the academy - as well as whatever TV/league money the club gets. Obviously it’s not as lucrative as buying the whole thing- but there will be people out there that will be willing!
So the club and it's attendant ongoing costs come for free (and presumably future sell on benefits accrue to the club). That leaves the land. We are getting somewhere. It must be possible to consider the land assets, with planning issues or not, ACV's and Borough Plan use, and any other restrictions and covenants like directors loans, and increase/decrease in value since Roland bought it, and compare those assets with something similar. What I don't mean is the land as a future possibility, but what it it worth right now. Is anybody who knows this kind of stuff capable of coming up with a figure? Because you can by that land and get a free football club with it to hopefully run well.
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Whatever one thinks about the action taken in Belgium, it has certainly had a great outcome. Fans all over the country would have been listening to that with utter incredulity.
Thank you Simon. Nobody has done better at calling him out.
It's the EFL's fault because they shouldn't allow foreign buyers for English clubs.
It's not RD's fault because he can only spare 2% of his time for Charlton.
(I wonder if this is where KM got her 2% from).
It's the Charlton press officers fault.
The August protests put off the buyers (what August protests, I genuinely can't remember ? )
He's willing to sell the club for nothing and although he hinted there are now no buyers, he refused to say how much he wanted for the Real Estate, due to a NDA.
Jim White concluded the interview thanking RD. RD weirdly replied ok good.
Simon Jordan said to RD it is his fault.
SJ said for the love of God, RD is laughable and contemptible.
A proposal will be put to the fans at the fan's forum, because RD doesn't want to sell to a foreign buyer.
I seriously believe RD is mentally unstable and has been since he became involved in Charlton.
I think it may be worth considering another trip to Belgium.
Never said this before and never will again but well done Simon Jordan(going for a deep clean now)
Let RD keep the £20/£30M worth of assets and the fans take on the £5M/£10M annual debt ?
He even has me warming slightly to Simon Jordan ffs.
Yet another reason to hate him.
And F*** Off with your infuriatingly inane 'Huh's' you utterly senile old fool!!
as you say , the running cost is the obvious problem - however is it necessarily hard to find that with share options- owning the club opens the financing and share option to many possibilities
say at the trust get the club and decide to sell 25% to fans/investors - then can then in theory charge any price and can structure it to then cover the running costs for a season or two
Exactly. He has to go - and have no further connection with Charlton. In other words total and unconditional surrender are the only acceptable terms, we should settle for nothing less.
Who would buy the club with no assets and The Valley and SL owned by RD ?
I think that Jim White is playing him brilliantly, with several mentions of the “distressing graffiti”. He gently cranked the pressure up as the interview went on, while Simon Jordan went decisively for the jugular.
I’d definitely welcome the opportunity to buy these two a pint. The more Roland is held up to the light and given an opportunity to make a tool of himself, the better.
the assets the ‘club’ do have is the players and the academy - as well as whatever TV/league money the club gets. Obviously it’s not as lucrative as buying the whole thing- but there will be people out there that will be willing!
That leaves the land.
We are getting somewhere.
It must be possible to consider the land assets, with planning issues or not, ACV's and Borough Plan use, and any other restrictions and covenants like directors loans, and increase/decrease in value since Roland bought it, and compare those assets with something similar.
What I don't mean is the land as a future possibility, but what it it worth right now.
Is anybody who knows this kind of stuff capable of coming up with a figure? Because you can by that land and get a free football club with it to hopefully run well.
With Brexit round the corner? Good luck with that.