Our hopes for club being sold remind me of Sisyphus in Hades having to rrepeatedly roll a boulder up a mountain only for it to roll back down as soon as he reached the summit.
Never hated #cafc,thought Richard Murray was a duplicitous weasel,Peter Varney not much better,didn’t appreciate the way yr fans and Murray celebrated our relegation and the Dowie stuff but I always respected the clubs achievements but yr man duchatelet is away with the fairies
Never hated #cafc,thought Richard Murray was a duplicitous weasel,Peter Varney not much better,didn’t appreciate the way yr fans and Murray celebrated our relegation and the Dowie stuff but I always respected the clubs achievements but yr man duchatelet is away with the fairies
He was spot on about Murray; not so sure about Varney; the fans were doing what all fans do at the expense of their rivals and the Dowie episode was just Murray trying to rub Jordan's nose in it. The thing with Dowie is that it really cost us due to us having to wait for him to start. That was when it all started to unravel for Murray and for the club as a whole.
RD is well and truly rattled which proves once again that the only way to get to him is to cause him embarrassment in Belgium. He does not give a fuck about matchday protests or anything done outside Belgium.
No idea if CARD or any other groups have anything planned, but i'd like to think that if they do have anything in the pipeline then it will be in Belgium.
Fair play to Simon Jordan too, thank god he was in the studio and not a clueless idiot like Danny Murphy who would've just tip-toed around RD and probably blamed us fans.
You could tell him was worrying he had lost Roland, kept trying to help him and bring it back to the vandalism but old Roland can’t be helped and went off on a weird rant blaming the efl
Expect a Belgian journo would like to pick up on this story - Foriegners shouldn't buy English clubs angle - anybody have a a contact to pass it on to them in case they missed it?
I'd love the whole English Press to pick up on the comment to be honest
Wonder what the likes of Man City's owners or even Millwall's owners would have to say as there are foreign owners within the game that do know how to behave and am sure do have a good relationship with their fans
Jodran took Dowie to court and successfully sued us as it was confirmed we got Dowie using underhand purposes.
There was no legal action by Jordan against Charlton. He sued Dowie and Dowie subsequently sued Charlton, which was settled out of court to facilitate the Jimenez-Slater takeover.
Having listened to it again, something really doesn’t sit right with me.
Roland says numerous times about real estate and land, okay that’s what he is valuing the club to be, well apparently, but he also lets it slip saying along the lines of “part of it” as in he will give the club away for free + £20mil as part of the real estate and land, Roland keeps the rest.
I don’t think we are near the end and I think there is a lot more to it than we think, the value of the land and how much Roland is actually selling for and what percentage he is giving away, be it 100% or smaller.
I fear that he is now prepared to give the club away essentially as long as someone pays him £20mil for part of the assets such as the stadium and training ground. He will still own part of the assets to get his money back.
Of course, he has made himself look like a complete idiot with no common sense, everyone can see that, but I fear this fact that he is an idiot is also a reason as to why the sale hasn’t happened.
Not sure why Jim White is getting such praise when was up Roland's a$$ the entire interview. Well done Simon Jordan.
Spot on Red, on both counts! You only have to listen to White for 10 minutes, on any subject, to fathom that it's actually all about him and his narcissistic tendencies. He reminds me of a poor man's James O'Brien!
The way he strolled up to The Valley on the Saturday, like the Messiah, after telling us we were sold, was simply nauseating! He knew damn well he'd court attention, and the only reason he was there was to milk the plaudits of the fans' who understandably believed his diatribe.
Any modicum of credibility that he possessed was gone, in an instant!!
Jodran took Dowie to court and successfully sued us as it was confirmed we got Dowie using underhand purposes.
There was no legal action by Jordan against Charlton. He sued Dowie and Dowie subsequently sued Charlton, which was settled out of court to facilitate the Jimenez-Slater takeover.
I had forgortten the exact details Rick SJ sued Dowie successfully. As for Dowie suing Charlton... (i don't know too much about that) but SJ successfully sued Dowie.
Expect a Belgian journo would like to pick up on this story - Foriegners shouldn't buy English clubs angle - anybody have a a contact to pass it on to them in case they missed it?
I'd love the whole English Press to pick up on the comment to be honest
Wonder what the likes of Man City's owners or even Millwall's owners would have to say as there are foreign owners within the game that do know how to behave and am sure do have a good relationship with their fans
In the top 2 divisions there are now more foreign owners than there are British. Foreign owners are now also starting to filter into league one as well. It's not inconceivable that in a few years there will be more foreign owners than English in all of english professional football.
Listening back to this made me so angry, especially when he starts blaming the press team. What on fucking earth have they done wrong?
Roland - the worst PR for any club is failure. You have failed. You take responsibility. The finger is pointed at you. A club does not get relegated, sell its best players, insult the intelligence of its fans to point when they stop coming in their thousands because of a media team. A media team largely made up of Charlton fans I may add.
I am sick to my stomach with this. Just sell the club.
Got to agree with this. The press team didn't have carte blanche to write what they wanted and they certainly couldn't control Meire's bonkers ideas or Duchatelet's odd rants. They had to tread the fine line between putting out a defensive club-line on everything, managing the comms with Meire for the most part and avoiding the sack. The Honourable Mel Baroni experience is all the evidence you need of what an impossible situation the club's media team were in. Duchatelet won't accept the blame because he couldn't micro-manage the club but why does he always excuse his appointed Chief Executive? The litany of her disasters and mismanagement was epic and he appears to have seen none of it or simply been fobbed off by her eg "2% of fans protesting."
Jodran took Dowie to court and successfully sued us as it was confirmed we got Dowie using underhand purposes.
There was no legal action by Jordan against Charlton. He sued Dowie and Dowie subsequently sued Charlton, which was settled out of court to facilitate the Jimenez-Slater takeover.
I don’t remember the Dowie suing Charlton part? What was his claim?
Having listened to it again, something really doesn’t sit right with me.
Roland says numerous times about real estate and land, okay that’s what he is valuing the club to be, well apparently, but he also lets it slip saying along the lines of “part of it” as in he will give the club away for free + £20mil as part of the real estate and land, Roland keeps the rest.
I don’t think we are near the end and I think there is a lot more to it than we think, the value of the land and how much Roland is actually selling for and what percentage he is giving away, be it 100% or smaller.
I fear that he is now prepared to give the club away essentially as long as someone pays him £20mil for part of the assets such as the stadium and training ground. He will still own part of the assets to get his money back.
Of course, he has made himself look like a complete idiot with no common sense, everyone can see that, but I fear this fact that he is an idiot is also a reason as to why the sale hasn’t happened.
Although the land value is contentious given you need to factor in that the club will likely always have playing rights, he is probably trying to assess it based on his development of St Truiden which was obviously a big success - a large-scale multi-purpose development around a very small football that only has three sides and a small regular gate. My guess is this might be where he is struggling to get a grip on reality in terms of what he thinks that opportunity might be worth and why he should get an appropriate recognition in a sale price. What's worrying is that he is far more likely to hang in for a percentage of future revenues or a share of a development (a la St Truiden) where we risk suffering him until he drops off his perch.
Jodran took Dowie to court and successfully sued us as it was confirmed we got Dowie using underhand purposes.
There was no legal action by Jordan against Charlton. He sued Dowie and Dowie subsequently sued Charlton, which was settled out of court to facilitate the Jimenez-Slater takeover.
I don’t remember the Dowie suing Charlton part? What was his claim?
The Club provided him with a map of Newcastle Under Lyme when he took the players out for a pre match stroll.
I really want him to provide specifics of all the comms teams errors. I can’t really remember anything stupid/controversial being said apart from on video of the perps actually saying it or in an interview in the Belgian press which they’d then claim was badly translated. I’d assume neither of these type of events can be blamed on the comms team anyway. He should be pressed to back up his donkey eared nonsense, he’s always allowed to just get away with dopey bullcrap
Having listened to it again, something really doesn’t sit right with me.
Roland says numerous times about real estate and land, okay that’s what he is valuing the club to be, well apparently, but he also lets it slip saying along the lines of “part of it” as in he will give the club away for free + £20mil as part of the real estate and land, Roland keeps the rest.
I don’t think we are near the end and I think there is a lot more to it than we think, the value of the land and how much Roland is actually selling for and what percentage he is giving away, be it 100% or smaller.
I fear that he is now prepared to give the club away essentially as long as someone pays him £20mil for part of the assets such as the stadium and training ground. He will still own part of the assets to get his money back.
Of course, he has made himself look like a complete idiot with no common sense, everyone can see that, but I fear this fact that he is an idiot is also a reason as to why the sale hasn’t happened.
What bothers me is that he didn't mention the club's huge debts. He isn't going to write them off, is he?
Having listened to it again, something really doesn’t sit right with me.
Roland says numerous times about real estate and land, okay that’s what he is valuing the club to be, well apparently, but he also lets it slip saying along the lines of “part of it” as in he will give the club away for free + £20mil as part of the real estate and land, Roland keeps the rest.
I don’t think we are near the end and I think there is a lot more to it than we think, the value of the land and how much Roland is actually selling for and what percentage he is giving away, be it 100% or smaller.
I fear that he is now prepared to give the club away essentially as long as someone pays him £20mil for part of the assets such as the stadium and training ground. He will still own part of the assets to get his money back.
Of course, he has made himself look like a complete idiot with no common sense, everyone can see that, but I fear this fact that he is an idiot is also a reason as to why the sale hasn’t happened.
What bothers me is that he didn't mention the club's huge debts. He isn't going to write them off, is he?
No he didn’t mention them at all and there is no chance he is going to write them off and only sell the assets that the club holds. He wouldn’t have had an interest charge on every penny he has put into the club that’s come as a cost if he didn’t intend on gaining that money back.
This is my fear. Roland will eventually sell the club to someone but the deal will be X amount of millions for part of the land that the club owns. The rest will be paid until Roland gets his money back or as much of it back as possible. I don’t think he is close to selling and I don’t think that he is going away any time soon because the man is a lunatic. And if this is the deal that ends up happening, we will have just as much of an idiot owning us for agreeing to such terms.
If five years of Roland and two years of apparently trying to sell the club hasn’t told us enough, now with the comments he has made live on TalkSport yesterday, I don’t know what will.
Vandalism or not, we need to make his life as uncomfortable as we possibly can. As NLA has said before, we do need people prepared to break the law, but in the main keep things legal, but extremely uncomfortable. He has made our lives hell with his obvious destruction of our club, we can’t have soft bellies or a lack of back bone with this. This is our future, our club and what happens between now and the end of Roland’s reign determines how much of a future we have and the quality of that future we have for our football club.
I've just taken a call from a well known, oop north club chairman that I have got to know quite well, along with quite a few other prominent footy figures, through my job. Wish I could say who but will not however, this is the main bits from the call...
Fu*k me mate, I was driving with (two big names in the game) chatting away then gradually silence fell on the car. Your owner came on the radio and we just sat there, staring at the radio in disbelief. Jaws dropped. What an utter nob head. Football knows about him, your issues with him etc but Jesus Christ, he is on another planet. The man is deluded. Never heard an interview like it in my life. I know you have told me in the past what a tool he was, but by god, he defies belief.
There was more but that's the gist of the conversation with me just agreeing in between him slating Roland. At the end I did say any chance you fancy buying a 'nice' club in south London? To that I just heard howls of laughter from the other two guys in the car and that was that!!
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The thing with Dowie is that it really cost us due to us having to wait for him to start. That was when it all started to unravel for Murray and for the club as a whole.
No idea if CARD or any other groups have anything planned, but i'd like to think that if they do have anything in the pipeline then it will be in Belgium.
Fair play to Simon Jordan too, thank god he was in the studio and not a clueless idiot like Danny Murphy who would've just tip-toed around RD and probably blamed us fans.
Wonder what the likes of Man City's owners or even Millwall's owners would have to say as there are foreign owners within the game that do know how to behave and am sure do have a good relationship with their fans
Roland says numerous times about real estate and land, okay that’s what he is valuing the club to be, well apparently, but he also lets it slip saying along the lines of “part of it” as in he will give the club away for free + £20mil as part of the real estate and land, Roland keeps the rest.
I don’t think we are near the end and I think there is a lot more to it than we think, the value of the land and how much Roland is actually selling for and what percentage he is giving away, be it 100% or smaller.
I fear that he is now prepared to give the club away essentially as long as someone pays him £20mil for part of the assets such as the stadium and training ground. He will still own part of the assets to get his money back.
Of course, he has made himself look like a complete idiot with no common sense, everyone can see that, but I fear this fact that he is an idiot is also a reason as to why the sale hasn’t happened.
The way he strolled up to The Valley on the Saturday, like the Messiah, after telling us we were sold, was simply nauseating! He knew damn well he'd court attention, and the only reason he was there was to milk the plaudits of the fans' who understandably believed his diatribe.
Any modicum of credibility that he possessed was gone, in an instant!!
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"Leave me alone, huh?"
This is my fear. Roland will eventually sell the club to someone but the deal will be X amount of millions for part of the land that the club owns. The rest will be paid until Roland gets his money back or as much of it back as possible. I don’t think he is close to selling and I don’t think that he is going away any time soon because the man is a lunatic. And if this is the deal that ends up happening, we will have just as much of an idiot owning us for agreeing to such terms.
If five years of Roland and two years of apparently trying to sell the club hasn’t told us enough, now with the comments he has made live on TalkSport yesterday, I don’t know what will.
Vandalism or not, we need to make his life as uncomfortable as we possibly can. As NLA has said before, we do need people prepared to break the law, but in the main keep things legal, but extremely uncomfortable. He has made our lives hell with his obvious destruction of our club, we can’t have soft bellies or a lack of back bone with this. This is our future, our club and what happens between now and the end of Roland’s reign determines how much of a future we have and the quality of that future we have for our football club.
Fu*k me mate, I was driving with (two big names in the game) chatting away then gradually silence fell on the car.
Your owner came on the radio and we just sat there, staring at the radio in disbelief. Jaws dropped.
What an utter nob head.
Football knows about him, your issues with him etc but Jesus Christ, he is on another planet.
The man is deluded.
Never heard an interview like it in my life.
I know you have told me in the past what a tool he was, but by god, he defies belief.
There was more but that's the gist of the conversation with me just agreeing in between him slating Roland.
At the end I did say any chance you fancy buying a 'nice' club in south London?
To that I just heard howls of laughter from the other two guys in the car and that was that!!