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Summer 2019 Transfer Rumours (ed. Pg 296 - Start of Deadline Day)

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  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,242
    Oztumer must be getting pretty fed up being buggered about by Charlton. That’s  the last two windows that he’s been “in the building/in Greenwich Park/in Bluewater shopping” and not been signed. 
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,290
    edited July 2019
    Sillybilly said:
    Oztumer must be getting pretty fed up being buggered about by Charlton. That’s  the last two windows that he’s been “in the building/in Greenwich Park/in Bluewater shopping” and not been signed. 
    To be fair, in January we wanted him, he said he wanted to prove himself in the Championship but soon realised it wasn’t going to happen. We revisited and came back in for him. It was Bolton who failed to bring in Ched Evans from Fleetwood and therefore decided not to release Oztumer to us, even though he didn’t player thereafter.

    This window, we don’t know what is happening with him but with all the issues at Bolton anyway, the problem could well be at their end if he is holding out on monies owed for example. We just don’t know. Or, we might have thought we could get better if we just hang in there that little longer. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Henry Irving said:
    Wow, no need for the personal abuse nonsense.

    You referenced Lee and Bowyer but in both cases a substantial part of it was reinvested in the club leading to progress on and off the pitch.

    The then owners had nothing like the disposal capital in the way Duchatelet has.

    They chose to reinvest the money rather than pay off themselves, huge, huge difference.
    I don't think there was any "personal abuse nonsense"?

    Lee and Bowyer (funny how that pans) were both sold and the money wasn't directly invested in the team.  It was invested in infrastructure and in some part to paying the wages. 

    Remember the the point Rick made about selling some land/houses and the answer was "well what player would you have sold instead?" 

    Paying himself off implied that he MADE money out of it, he is £70 odd million in the brown at the moment.  Unless he finds some mug to pay him that back he is going to loose a lot of money. 

    As far as I am aware he hasn't personally made a single penny out of the club yet?  Happy to be proved wrong.  In that regard his is no worse than any of our previous owners.  In all other measurable metrics the bloke is a cretin, a failure, a stain on our history.

    Let's focus on what he HAS done wrong, let's not twist "fake news". 
  • cafcledbury
    cafcledbury Posts: 1,229
    ElliotCAFC said:
    Villa closing in on Konsa for £12m. Would be nice if Bower and Gallen get the sell-on fee to use in the market, but we all know it’s going straight in Roland’s back pocket..
    Premierleague star of the future we was told. Thanks katrien ps you are definitely a would ya 
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    Covered End said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    I was told by a Bees fan who claimed to be ITK that their sell-ons are for the whole fee. 
    What does this mean ?
    Sorry. Forgot to engage brain.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,100
    harveys_gardener said:
    Covered End said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    I was told by a Bees fan who claimed to be ITK that their sell-ons are for the whole fee. 
    What does this mean ?
    Sorry. Forgot to engage brain.
    So are you going to enlighten us, as to what you meant ?
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    I was one deal too early. If Villa sell him, their sell on is full fee.
  • theeenorth
    theeenorth Posts: 2,288
    Parzyszek? Passes height test. Scoring in Champions League tonight. Worth a gamble? Name sounds familiar?
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,363
    haha


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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,073
    ElliotCAFC said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    Villa closing in on Konsa for £12m. Would be nice if Bower and Gallen get the sell-on fee to use in the market, but we all know it’s going straight in Roland’s back pocket..
    How much has Roland put in his "back pocket"?   
    Couldn’t give an exact figure - but pretty much every penny we have got from selling players hasn’t been reinvested back into the club at all. I’m not going to pedantically argue over the term “back pocket” - call it what you will, but the money certainly hasn’t gone back into the team
    But selling players to cover costs has been "normal" for Charlton for longer than I can remember.  I get the fact that no extra money has been invested in the team, if we had the semblance of a functional smt it might have been but how much of the Shelvey money, the Bowyer money or the Robert Lee money was?

    I can't count, on 2 fingers, the time a Charlton player was sold for significant money and the money reinvested in the playing squad.  Funny enough we got promoted both seasons as well. 
    I understand that - but that says nothing apart from we’ve had bad owners before Roland as well? There’s a huge difference between selling players to keep the club afloat and selling players to increase a billionaires cash flow. Even Powell got the money from Jenkinson to Arsenal. Imagine what we could have done with some of the Lookman/Konsa/Pope/Gomez/JBG money 
    It hasn't though, it has just reduced the losses made by the club

    There are masses of things to criticise Roland for, but I share his concern at the finances of football, especially in the Championship. Just because some foreign owners are prepared to lose £20m to £40m a season, it doesn't follow that this should be considered normal
  • jac52
    jac52 Posts: 636
    harveys_gardener said:
    I was one deal too early. If Villa sell him, their sell on is full fee.
    That sounds ridiculous. Can't believe any club would spend £12m on a player that they'd get nothing for if they sold him.
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited July 2019
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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,533
    jac52 said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    I was one deal too early. If Villa sell him, their sell on is full fee.
    That sounds ridiculous. Can't believe any club would spend £12m on a player that they'd get nothing for if they sold him.
    He means Brentford’s sell on is a % of whatever Villa sell him for, not just a % of any profit Villa make.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,923
    Seems to have all gone really quiet. Personally I wouldn’t rule out another departure still. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,335
    AFKABartram said:
    Seems to have all gone really quiet. Personally I wouldn’t rule out another departure still. 
    More to Taylor/Pearce talking about new deals than meets the eye? 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,016
    edited July 2019
    Henry Irving said:
    AFKABartram said:
    Seems to have all gone really quiet. Personally I wouldn’t rule out another departure still. 
    More to Taylor/Pearce talking about new deals than meets the eye? 
    If either were to go - particularly Taylor, obviously - that would be up there with selling Yann. 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,985
    Valley11 said:
    Henry Irving said:
    AFKABartram said:
    Seems to have all gone really quiet. Personally I wouldn’t rule out another departure still. 
    More to Taylor/Pearce talking about new deals than meets the eye? 
    If either were to go - particularly Taylor, obviously - that would be up there with selling Yann. 
    It would be worse IMO..... bearing in mind the current state of the rest of the squad 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,016
    Is Bowyer doing a presser today? 
  • Isawsummersplay
    Isawsummersplay Posts: 1,430
    edited July 2019
    I suspect that most of our targets have been deterred from signing by the low wages being offered. If we are also counting on the likes of Cullen and Bielik returning, then I feel we are in for a disappointment.
    The closer we get to the start of the season without additions to the squad, can only increase the likelihood of a poor start. And, as others have said, this is a very difficult league in which to successfully play catch-up.
    After the euphoria of the play-offs, this pre-season is looking increasingly familiar to the last few years, and realistically the only thing on the horizon is a long and tortuous fight against relegation, something which, after 60 years as an Addick, I am all too familiar with.

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  • andynelson
    andynelson Posts: 1,951

    DamoNorthStand said:
    Valley11 said:
    Henry Irving said:
    AFKABartram said:
    Seems to have all gone really quiet. Personally I wouldn’t rule out another departure still. 
    More to Taylor/Pearce talking about new deals than meets the eye? 
    If either were to go - particularly Taylor, obviously - that would be up there with selling Yann. 
    It would be worse IMO..... bearing in mind the current state of the rest of the squad 
    At least with Yann we got a replacement (Polish Pete).
  • TEL
    TEL Posts: 10,100
    AFKABartram said:
    Seems to have all gone really quiet. Personally I wouldn’t rule out another departure still. 
    me neither...
  • TEL
    TEL Posts: 10,100
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  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,939
    Valley11 said:
    Henry Irving said:
    AFKABartram said:
    Seems to have all gone really quiet. Personally I wouldn’t rule out another departure still. 
    More to Taylor/Pearce talking about new deals than meets the eye? 
    If either were to go - particularly Taylor, obviously - that would be up there with selling Yann. 
    agreed re Taylor but not Pearce - love his commitment and attitude but incomparable with losing Taylor or Yann
  • Thommo
    Thommo Posts: 1,438
    Creepy tweeting that he doesn’t think Konsa has a sell on clause, but he’s trying to get confirmation.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,156
    Thommo said:
    Creepy tweeting that he doesn’t think Konsa has a sell on clause, but he’s trying to get confirmation.
    Why add a sell on clause to a club who are pretty much an established Championship club at threat of neither promotion or relegation and is known to sell on its players for increased profit
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,290
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Thommo said:
    Creepy tweeting that he doesn’t think Konsa has a sell on clause, but he’s trying to get confirmation.
    Why add a sell on clause to a club who are pretty much an established Championship club at threat of neither promotion or relegation and is known to sell on its players for increased profit
    Exactly, it makes far too much sense doesn't it, so you can almost be sure that Roland didn't. 
  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,618
    Lee did its unlikely anymore bussiness would be dome before Welling. It seems to me they know there main targets and for whatever reason they are having to be patient.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,985
    CH4RLTON said:
    Lee did its unlikely anymore bussiness would be dome before Welling. It seems to me they know there main targets and for whatever reason they are having to be patient.
    Or alternatively......
    Image result for empty wallet gif
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,878
    Konza gone. I hate Roland. The guy is a twerp. Aribo, Gonez, and Konza. All good players. If that man had any football sense or logic he would have been a lot of money on those deals. We would have a healthy transfer kitty by now. 

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