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Summer 2019 Transfer Rumours (ed. Pg 296 - Start of Deadline Day)
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Claret and Hugh is very well connected at WHUMarkyE83 said:2 -
Doesn’t really tell us anything we don’t already know tbh. We want him, West Ham haven’t decided what to do with him and other fringe players yet. If we get him it will be towards the end of the window.0
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@Covered End posted this in the Oztumer thread. Thought it was worth sticking in here. Looks like we are still very much after Oztumer.2 -
We would love both of them of course but given the choice of Cullen OR Bielik, which would you opt for ??
For me Cullen every time..just a great all round midfielder of the old "tackle and pass" school.7 -
Bielik has a higher ceiling of performance I think but Cullen is the more complete player right now?6
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Bielik is an absolute monster in the making though. I'd say Bielik, just1
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That’s a tough question no doubt, but Cullen reminds me too much of peak Scott Parker to turn down.grumpyaddick said:We would love both of them of course but given the choice of Cullen OR Bielik, which would you opt for ??
For me Cullen every time..just a great all round midfielder of the old "tackle and pass" school.0 -
As sure as god made little green apples we won’t be paying out a fee large enough to secure Cullen.1
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Wagstaff.grumpyaddick said:We would love both of them of course but given the choice of Cullen OR Bielik, which would you opt for ??
For me Cullen every time..just a great all round midfielder of the old "tackle and pass" school.6 -
Do not rule out Magennis coming back, Bowyer wants more leaders and Josh is one of them players6
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Can't agree with that. Cullen is a v good footballer and bossed the midfield of a league 1 team, but Parker was an absolute monster of a footballer who wiped the floor with the premier league at a similar age. He was a phenominal tackler, scorer of screamers, and directed play better than anyone I've ever seen play for Charlton, epitomising the box to box midfielder people love to watch.BR7_addick said:
That’s a tough question no doubt, but Cullen reminds me too much of peak Scott Parker to turn down.grumpyaddick said:We would love both of them of course but given the choice of Cullen OR Bielik, which would you opt for ??
For me Cullen every time..just a great all round midfielder of the old "tackle and pass" school.
As much as I dislike the way he left, Parker was an absolute Rolls Royce of a footballer and could have become genuinely world class had he waited another 6 months and replaced Roy Keane at Man U, rather than jumping to Chelsea and being misused to the point of injury. In my opinion Cullen doesn't possess the range of skills or vision to be realistically considered akin to Parker. He will hopefully turn in to a very good footballer though, for us or someone else.
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On a permanent, Bielik all say long, on loan for a year I'd take Cullen.grumpyaddick said:We would love both of them of course but given the choice of Cullen OR Bielik, which would you opt for ??
For me Cullen every time..just a great all round midfielder of the old "tackle and pass" school.1 -
GreenBolderhumphreyreid said:
Wagstaff.grumpyaddick said:We would love both of them of course but given the choice of Cullen OR Bielik, which would you opt for ??
For me Cullen every time..just a great all round midfielder of the old "tackle and pass" school.1 -
Not comparing the calibre just the attributes.Beardface said:
Can't agree with that. Cullen is a v good footballer and bossed the midfield of a league 1 team, but Parker was an absolute monster of a footballer who wiped the floor with the premier league at a similar age. He was a phenominal tackler, scorer of screamers, and directed play better than anyone I've ever seen play for Charlton, epitomising the box to box midfielder people love to watch.BR7_addick said:
That’s a tough question no doubt, but Cullen reminds me too much of peak Scott Parker to turn down.grumpyaddick said:We would love both of them of course but given the choice of Cullen OR Bielik, which would you opt for ??
For me Cullen every time..just a great all round midfielder of the old "tackle and pass" school.
As much as I dislike the way he left, Parker was an absolute Rolls Royce of a footballer and could have become genuinely world class had he waited another 6 months and replaced Roy Keane at Man U, rather than jumping to Chelsea and being misused to the point of injury. In my opinion Cullen doesn't possess the range of skills or vision to be realistically considered akin to Parker. He will hopefully turn in to a very good footballer though, for us or someone else.1 -
Also Cullen strikes me as being one of those players who could consistently manage 40+ games a season. Bielik more around the 30 mark as he's a bit more likely to pick up knocks.3
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If there is any doubt about how good Scott Parker was then his performance for Fulham against us last time we were in the Championship was a perfect exampleBeardface said:
Can't agree with that. Cullen is a v good footballer and bossed the midfield of a league 1 team, but Parker was an absolute monster of a footballer who wiped the floor with the premier league at a similar age. He was a phenominal tackler, scorer of screamers, and directed play better than anyone I've ever seen play for Charlton, epitomising the box to box midfielder people love to watch.BR7_addick said:
That’s a tough question no doubt, but Cullen reminds me too much of peak Scott Parker to turn down.grumpyaddick said:We would love both of them of course but given the choice of Cullen OR Bielik, which would you opt for ??
For me Cullen every time..just a great all round midfielder of the old "tackle and pass" school.
As much as I dislike the way he left, Parker was an absolute Rolls Royce of a footballer and could have become genuinely world class had he waited another 6 months and replaced Roy Keane at Man U, rather than jumping to Chelsea and being misused to the point of injury. In my opinion Cullen doesn't possess the range of skills or vision to be realistically considered akin to Parker. He will hopefully turn in to a very good footballer though, for us or someone else.
Even at his age he absolutely bossed the whole of the Midfield and controlled the game
Hope he has a good stint in Management with Fulham too now, unless of course we're battling them for position in which case he can feck off1 -
so no new rumours then?0
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Reckon we might see A Trialist today?0
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Transfer rumour related?4
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Cullen starts for West Ham vs Newcastle. On sky sports too0
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DamnRed_Chester said:Cullen starts for West Ham vs Newcastle. On sky sports too1 -
Whilst I would love both Bielik and Cullen back, I just can't see it - they will have many suitors who can blow us out of the water wage wise and if they are being sold, Roland won't be forking out that sort of money.
However, Bowyer and Gallen won't be putting all their eggs in that basket and will be working hard on bringing in some other quality loanies, who can hopefully have similar impacts. I can't think of anyone they have brought in that hasn't made a positive impact - unlike many of Robinson's and the bilge we had managing us before him.
In Bowyer and Gallen we trust.1 -
Least he's getting some match fitness and wont come back to us behind in that regardAFKABartram said:
DamnRed_Chester said:Cullen starts for West Ham vs Newcastle. On sky sports too2 -
We said that about Amos and Williams...moutuakilla said:Whilst I would love both Bielik and Cullen back, I just can't see it - they will have many suitors who can blow us out of the water wage wise and if they are being sold, Roland won't be forking out that sort of money.
However, Bowyer and Gallen won't be putting all their eggs in that basket and will be working hard on bringing in some other quality loanies, who can hopefully have similar impacts. I can't think of anyone they have brought in that hasn't made a positive impact - unlike many of Robinson's and the bilge we had managing us before him.
In Bowyer and Gallen we trust.
Only problem with the loans is that I imagine some clubs may be willing to pay the parent club a fee as well as wages
Then again am sure the player will still get a say on where they want to go though0 -
Not a great first half but West Ham as a whole were very poor. I hope he has a dreadful second half so that Pelligrini decides he doesn’t rate him and sends him back out on loan
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The 1-1 home draw v. Arsenal was even better imho.ForeverAddickted said:
If there is any doubt about how good Scott Parker was then his performance for Fulham against us last time we were in the Championship was a perfect exampleBeardface said:
Can't agree with that. Cullen is a v good footballer and bossed the midfield of a league 1 team, but Parker was an absolute monster of a footballer who wiped the floor with the premier league at a similar age. He was a phenominal tackler, scorer of screamers, and directed play better than anyone I've ever seen play for Charlton, epitomising the box to box midfielder people love to watch.BR7_addick said:
That’s a tough question no doubt, but Cullen reminds me too much of peak Scott Parker to turn down.grumpyaddick said:We would love both of them of course but given the choice of Cullen OR Bielik, which would you opt for ??
For me Cullen every time..just a great all round midfielder of the old "tackle and pass" school.
As much as I dislike the way he left, Parker was an absolute Rolls Royce of a footballer and could have become genuinely world class had he waited another 6 months and replaced Roy Keane at Man U, rather than jumping to Chelsea and being misused to the point of injury. In my opinion Cullen doesn't possess the range of skills or vision to be realistically considered akin to Parker. He will hopefully turn in to a very good footballer though, for us or someone else.
Even at his age he absolutely bossed the whole of the Midfield and controlled the game
Hope he has a good stint in Management with Fulham too now, unless of course we're battling them for position in which case he can feck off
Top two in the League, and he was the best player on the pitch.0 -
True but I think Amos having a bad season and being at a club like Bolton, with their troubles, has led to him wanting to be somewhere he knows he is appreciateda he has been successful before.ForeverAddickted said:
We said that about Amos and Williams...moutuakilla said:Whilst I would love both Bielik and Cullen back, I just can't see it - they will have many suitors who can blow us out of the water wage wise and if they are being sold, Roland won't be forking out that sort of money.
However, Bowyer and Gallen won't be putting all their eggs in that basket and will be working hard on bringing in some other quality loanies, who can hopefully have similar impacts. I can't think of anyone they have brought in that hasn't made a positive impact - unlike many of Robinson's and the bilge we had managing us before him.
In Bowyer and Gallen we trust.
Only problem with the loans is that I imagine some clubs may be willing to pay the parent club a fee as well as wages
Then again am sure the player will still get a say on where they want to go though
Williams has had his mental health issues, as highlighted by the Netflix series, and I think he realises it is more important to be somewhere he feels happy, secure and supported rather than up sticks and potentially end up unhappy again.
I think Cullen and Bielik are in completely different positions. However, their positive experiences and relationships with the club and Bowyer will hopefully mean they choose us if it comes down to a straight choice between us and another championship club.
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I'm sure JW realises good mental health is more important than money.moutuakilla said:
True but I think Amos having a bad season and being at a club like Bolton, with their troubles, has led to him wanting to be somewhere he knows he is appreciateda he has been successful before.ForeverAddickted said:
We said that about Amos and Williams...moutuakilla said:Whilst I would love both Bielik and Cullen back, I just can't see it - they will have many suitors who can blow us out of the water wage wise and if they are being sold, Roland won't be forking out that sort of money.
However, Bowyer and Gallen won't be putting all their eggs in that basket and will be working hard on bringing in some other quality loanies, who can hopefully have similar impacts. I can't think of anyone they have brought in that hasn't made a positive impact - unlike many of Robinson's and the bilge we had managing us before him.
In Bowyer and Gallen we trust.
Only problem with the loans is that I imagine some clubs may be willing to pay the parent club a fee as well as wages
Then again am sure the player will still get a say on where they want to go though
Williams has had his mental health issues, as highlighted by the Netflix series, and I think he realises it is more important to be somewhere he feels happy, secure and supported rather than up sticks and potentially end up unhappy again.
I think Cullen and Bielik are in completely different positions. However, their positive experiences and relationships with the club and Bowyer will hopefully mean they choose us if it comes down to a straight choice between us and another championship club.4 -
Cullen taken off9
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No disrespect to Cullen but was thinking the sameJoshAddick said:Not a great first half but West Ham as a whole were very poor. I hope he has a dreadful second half so that Pelligrini decides he doesn’t rate him and sends him back out on loan1
