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Summer 2019 Transfer Rumours (ed. Pg 296 - Start of Deadline Day)

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  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,033
    Maybe West Ham may sell him cheaply but insist on a high resale or buy back clause. 
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,236
    Scoham said:
    Bowyer wants Morgan to go out on loan. He doesn't feel he's been taught the defensive side of the game and he needs to go out and play regularly. Doesn't see him playing for us in the first half of the season.

    https://www.cafc.co.uk/valley-pass/video-player?widgets[stream-amg][content_id]=0_zske8sk7
    Can’t see the article as it’s members only but if that’s what it says I’m disappointed. I think Albie is the best creative talent we have unless we get someone better in so I’d like to see him progress with us rather  than someone else. Unless of course we are signing someone better.......
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,280
    harveys_gardener said:
    Scoham, you are talking as a seller. We are a potential buyer. He is shit or wouldn't have been hooked tonight.
    You’re joking right? So does that include every other West Ham player that got taken off today, they all must be shit. Especially Hernandez, Yarmolenko, and Lanzini as they got taken off at half time.

    Cullen was one of the best players in League One last season and will easily command a higher fee than 300k if he was to be sold. He’s been the Republic of Ireland U21 captain and has been called up to their senior team too. If we sign him, we will have a quality player on our hands who is only going to get better and better.

    I really wouldn’t be surprised at all to see Morgan go out on loan, he has fantastic vision and ability going forward but you can tell Bowyer is conscious of his game going the other way. Playing for a League One side maybe until January will do him the world of good. Ideally, Lapslie will do the same but I think that Bowyer trusts him that little bit more than Morgan right now. So we shall see.

    We need at least 4 very good midfielders to come in and complement Forster-Caskey, Williams, and Aneke. Just like we need two strikers to come in, to partner Taylor up front but also to allow Bonne to develop to the standard we need him to be, without the pressure of being thrown in.

    Lots of work to be done, but I think we should hopefully see a couple of signings near the beginning of the week, meaning that we will need around another 4 more in before the window closes

    In Bowyer and Gallen I trust.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,582
    Sage said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    Scoham, you are talking as a seller. We are a potential buyer. He is shit or wouldn't have been hooked tonight.
    You’re joking right? So does that include every other West Ham player that got taken off today, they all must be shit. Especially Hernandez, Yarmolenko, and Lanzini as they got taken off at half time.

    Cullen was one of the best players in League One last season and will easily command a higher fee than 300k if he was to be sold. He’s been the Republic of Ireland U21 captain and has been called up to their senior team too. If we sign him, we will have a quality player on our hands who is only going to get better and better.

    I really wouldn’t be surprised at all to see Morgan go out on loan, he has fantastic vision and ability going forward but you can tell Bowyer is conscious of his game going the other way. Playing for a League One side maybe until January will do him the world of good. Ideally, Lapslie will do the same but I think that Bowyer trusts him that little bit more than Morgan right now. So we shall see.

    We need at least 4 very good midfielders to come in and complement Forster-Caskey, Williams, and Aneke. Just like we need two strikers to come in, to partner Taylor up front but also to allow Bonne to develop to the standard we need him to be, without the pressure of being thrown in.

    Lots of work to be done, but I think we should hopefully see a couple of signings near the beginning of the week, meaning that we will need around another 4 more in before the window closes

    In Bowyer and Gallen I trust.
    Is that just your gut feeling @Sage or do you know something?
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,499
    I don't think we're really in a position to let Morgan go out on loan regardless of the players we bring in. Our squad will still be small and expect we'll need him. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,908
    Scoham said:
    Bowyer wants Morgan to go out on loan. He doesn't feel he's been taught the defensive side of the game and he needs to go out and play regularly. Doesn't see him playing for us in the first half of the season.

    https://www.cafc.co.uk/valley-pass/video-player?widgets[stream-amg][content_id]=0_zske8sk7
    Not the same type of player (or level), but Morgan slightly reminds me of Parker as he has the class, but needs to learn the "dirty side" to go with it. 6 months at a L1 side would make sense, someone like say Gillingham
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,582
    edited July 2019
    I get Bowyer's reasons for wanting to loan out Morgan

    If he cant defend when needed or win the ball back then for large periods we'll play with ten men

    This is the Championship now, we're the small fish in the much larger pond, we play with ten men and it'll prove costly

    Opposing teams will have the ball a lot more this season than we will at times
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,236
    edited July 2019
    Interesting that LB dropped Albie completely from the play off final squad. I thought at the time that it was a bit ruthless. Maybe he doesn’t rate him as highly as I do. If Albie does go out in loan we deffo need Oztumer 
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,225
    If you look at our midfield as Pratley, Lapslie, Morgan, JFC, Williams and Aneke (Aneke on the basis Bowyer says he wants 2 more strikers)

    This means we already need 2 midfielders in to get the target 8 midfielders of 2 for each position.

    3 more would be needed to allow Morgan to go out on loan and 4 more to allow Lapslie out on loan too.

    I think Lapslie needs to go out on loan to a League One team as well but I don't see us bringing in 4 more midfielders to make this happen, i'd be surprised if we get 3 more in.
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    Sage I am talking as a buyer. Cullen is shit. WH will do well to get him off their wage bill.

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  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    harveys_gardener said:
    Sage I am talking as a buyer. Cullen is shit. WH will do well to get him off their wage bill.
    Cullen was our highest ranking player in 2018-19, with an average rating of 7.05. Ahead of Taylor, Aribo and Grant. I only wish we had such “shit” at every position this season!
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    edited July 2019
    Napa stop bigging him up . Hampsters should be grateful to get him off their wage bill.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,423
    He did well enough for us for them to keep him around for pre-season. If we don’t want him other clubs will - ”shit” is such a strange way to describe one of our best and most consistent players last season.

    With the TV money in the Prem Cullen’s wages won’t be causing West Ham any problems.
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    Scoham a shit Cullen will cost less than  "our best player" Cullen.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,808
    I agree with HG. If the dildo brothers are reading this, you guys should have to pay us to take him off your hands.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,030
    edited July 2019
    harveys_gardener said:
    Cullen has half a season playing decent, for Bolton he did nothing. Given we sold one of the league's top goalscorers this year for £1.5m.  if WH want more than £300k we should look elsewhere. If he is in last year of contract not worth that.
    h_g strikes again.
    Even by his high bollock talking standards, this conversation ranks highly.
    You really couldn't make it up.
    Jonathan Acworth, you have a rival.
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,119
    harveys_gardener said:
    Scoham a shit Cullen will cost less than  "our best player" Cullen.
    Yes, I'm sure West Ham will base their price on the opinion of some drip on CL.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    harveys_gardener said:
    Sage I am talking as a buyer. Cullen is shit. WH will do well to get him off their wage bill.
    Ok that’s twice you’ve said he’s shit. I suggest you stop drinking now because you’re just making yourself look daft.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Cullen isn’t a headline maker who who plays the killer ball or scores the goal. He’s the guy who is always available for a give and go. He keeps the midfield ticking over, the ball moving. He’s also a great ball winner.

    je fits into Bowyers style of play.

    anyone thinking he’s shit is really very strange.. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,030
    harveys_gardener said:
    Sage I am talking as a buyer. Cullen is shit. WH will do well to get him off their wage bill.
    Please stop. I can't take it anymore.

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,808
    HG has such a reputation for talking bollocks that people think he’s being serious when he’s having a laugh.
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    edited July 2019
    FFS I would love to see Cullen in a red shirt. We just should not be bigging him up on social media which will be read by Sullivan & co. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,030
    I'm pretty sure he's serious.
    He rarely says anything sensible.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,808
    I took it to be a joke but maybe I’m giving too much credit...
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    Is it too difficult to understand? As a buyer, the product has issues.  As a seller it is the best example of the variety. That was the point of my posts. I thought CL readers were more intelligent than to take posts literally. Obviously I was wrong.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,030
    harveys_gardener said:
    Is it too difficult to understand? As a buyer, the product has issues.  As a seller it is the best example of the variety. That was the point of my posts. I thought CL readers were more intelligent than to take posts literally. Obviously I was wrong.
    What have you taken ?
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    edited July 2019
    Too much shit from the likes of you, Kent, Henry, and Southbank.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,280
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Sage said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    Scoham, you are talking as a seller. We are a potential buyer. He is shit or wouldn't have been hooked tonight.
    You’re joking right? So does that include every other West Ham player that got taken off today, they all must be shit. Especially Hernandez, Yarmolenko, and Lanzini as they got taken off at half time.

    Cullen was one of the best players in League One last season and will easily command a higher fee than 300k if he was to be sold. He’s been the Republic of Ireland U21 captain and has been called up to their senior team too. If we sign him, we will have a quality player on our hands who is only going to get better and better.

    I really wouldn’t be surprised at all to see Morgan go out on loan, he has fantastic vision and ability going forward but you can tell Bowyer is conscious of his game going the other way. Playing for a League One side maybe until January will do him the world of good. Ideally, Lapslie will do the same but I think that Bowyer trusts him that little bit more than Morgan right now. So we shall see.

    We need at least 4 very good midfielders to come in and complement Forster-Caskey, Williams, and Aneke. Just like we need two strikers to come in, to partner Taylor up front but also to allow Bonne to develop to the standard we need him to be, without the pressure of being thrown in.

    Lots of work to be done, but I think we should hopefully see a couple of signings near the beginning of the week, meaning that we will need around another 4 more in before the window closes

    In Bowyer and Gallen I trust.
    Is that just your gut feeling @Sage or do you know something?
    Been told of one that we are close to, that it could, and hopefully will, be done before Colchester if things go well. No point even naming anyone because I’m not putting myself in that position, just that I expect a signing by Tuesday. Again, so long as it goes to plan.

    The rest is a gut feeling because Bow and Gallen will be working on numerous deals all the time, one is closer than the rest but work to be done on that one yet.

    I expect the next couple of signings to be names of which haven’t been mentioned, or I haven’t seen mentioned beforehand.
  • covered_end_junior
    covered_end_junior Posts: 4,525
    Sage said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Sage said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    Scoham, you are talking as a seller. We are a potential buyer. He is shit or wouldn't have been hooked tonight.
    You’re joking right? So does that include every other West Ham player that got taken off today, they all must be shit. Especially Hernandez, Yarmolenko, and Lanzini as they got taken off at half time.

    Cullen was one of the best players in League One last season and will easily command a higher fee than 300k if he was to be sold. He’s been the Republic of Ireland U21 captain and has been called up to their senior team too. If we sign him, we will have a quality player on our hands who is only going to get better and better.

    I really wouldn’t be surprised at all to see Morgan go out on loan, he has fantastic vision and ability going forward but you can tell Bowyer is conscious of his game going the other way. Playing for a League One side maybe until January will do him the world of good. Ideally, Lapslie will do the same but I think that Bowyer trusts him that little bit more than Morgan right now. So we shall see.

    We need at least 4 very good midfielders to come in and complement Forster-Caskey, Williams, and Aneke. Just like we need two strikers to come in, to partner Taylor up front but also to allow Bonne to develop to the standard we need him to be, without the pressure of being thrown in.

    Lots of work to be done, but I think we should hopefully see a couple of signings near the beginning of the week, meaning that we will need around another 4 more in before the window closes

    In Bowyer and Gallen I trust.
    Is that just your gut feeling @Sage or do you know something?
    Been told of one that we are close to, that it could, and hopefully will, be done before Colchester if things go well. No point even naming anyone because I’m not putting myself in that position, just that I expect a signing by Tuesday. Again, so long as it goes to plan.

    The rest is a gut feeling because Bow and Gallen will be working on numerous deals all the time, one is closer than the rest but work to be done on that one yet.

    I expect the next couple of signings to be names of which haven’t been mentioned, or I haven’t seen mentioned beforehand.
    Midfielder?
  • CafcSCP
    CafcSCP Posts: 1,466
    edited July 2019
    covered end junior said:
    Sage said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Sage said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    Scoham, you are talking as a seller. We are a potential buyer. He is shit or wouldn't have been hooked tonight.
    You’re joking right? So does that include every other West Ham player that got taken off today, they all must be shit. Especially Hernandez, Yarmolenko, and Lanzini as they got taken off at half time.

    Cullen was one of the best players in League One last season and will easily command a higher fee than 300k if he was to be sold. He’s been the Republic of Ireland U21 captain and has been called up to their senior team too. If we sign him, we will have a quality player on our hands who is only going to get better and better.

    I really wouldn’t be surprised at all to see Morgan go out on loan, he has fantastic vision and ability going forward but you can tell Bowyer is conscious of his game going the other way. Playing for a League One side maybe until January will do him the world of good. Ideally, Lapslie will do the same but I think that Bowyer trusts him that little bit more than Morgan right now. So we shall see.

    We need at least 4 very good midfielders to come in and complement Forster-Caskey, Williams, and Aneke. Just like we need two strikers to come in, to partner Taylor up front but also to allow Bonne to develop to the standard we need him to be, without the pressure of being thrown in.

    Lots of work to be done, but I think we should hopefully see a couple of signings near the beginning of the week, meaning that we will need around another 4 more in before the window closes

    In Bowyer and Gallen I trust.
    Is that just your gut feeling @Sage or do you know something?
    Been told of one that we are close to, that it could, and hopefully will, be done before Colchester if things go well. No point even naming anyone because I’m not putting myself in that position, just that I expect a signing by Tuesday. Again, so long as it goes to plan.

    The rest is a gut feeling because Bow and Gallen will be working on numerous deals all the time, one is closer than the rest but work to be done on that one yet.

    I expect the next couple of signings to be names of which haven’t been mentioned, or I haven’t seen mentioned beforehand.
    Midfielder?
    Waffle? Jack shit? Na da ?
    Sounds more like you’ve read Bowyers comments and made it sound like you’re ITK.
    names of players?
    behave!

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