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  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    edited July 2019
    Golfie, regardless of my misunderstood comments above, Cullen played only a dozen games in Championship, over 4 months in a poor side. Not sure how many were starts, After that he had to drop down to L1 to get gametime.  

    He played mostly as a CM, not DM but has very few goals, and Wembley apart I'd guess not many assists.  He was on a season loan but only played 29 games. We know how good he is, but I doubt he is on many clubs radar. He is in last year of contract.To suggest he is likely to cost £500k more than Karlan is thankfully deluded.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    edited July 2019
    The loans deals will make or break our season.
    The 3 last season made the difference between promotion and being also rans.

    I just hope the loan players have had pre season training and aren't training alone in a park( Simon Church, days before being thrown in the deep end.

    We have to trust that Bowyer and Gallen will try to pull Rabbits from the hat, and Rabbits which won't be caught in the headlights.

  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    soapboxsam said:
    The loans deals will make or break our season.
    The 3 last season made the difference between promotion and being also rans.

    I just hope the loan players have had pre season training and aren't training alone in a park( Simon Church, days before being thrown in the deep end.

    We have to trust that Bowyer and Gallen will try to pull Rabbits from the hat, and Rabbits which won't be caught in the headlights.

    Apparently Church regularly had shooting practice from outside the box but failed to score, some efforts not making it to the goal-line.
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    edited July 2019
    Bow is saying Morgan doesn’t have enough in his game to feature in the championship yet so wants to free up his wage perhaps and or not ruin his confidence until he’s got experience. Lapslie I guess he must rate as defensive cover altho he might well be saying similar to him.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,380
    harveys_gardener said:
    Golfie, regardless of my misunderstood comments above, Cullen played only a dozen games in Championship, over 4 months in a poor side. Not sure how many were starts, After that he had to drop down to L1 to get gametime.  

    He played mostly as a CM, not DM but has very few goals, and Wembley apart I'd guess not many assists.  He was on a season loan but only played 29 games. We know how good he is, but I doubt he is on many clubs radar. He is in last year of contract.To suggest he is likely to cost £500k more than Karlan is thankfully deluded.
    Cullen has 12 assists according to statbank, our second best after Taylor.

    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/85874/the-2018-19-charlton-life-end-of-season-statbank/p1

    The difference compared to us selling Grant is West Ham aren’t by Roland and get Prem TV money, they don’t need to sell Cullen cheaply to cover their costs for a few months.
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    edited July 2019
    WH don't need to sell but by same token, don't need big money for him. Never underestimate the satisfaction of closure. Imagine trying to sell an asset and it drags on months (or three years) because your price is too high.

    They have yet to announce his availability and there are only 17 days until the window slams shut.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    Scoham said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    Golfie, regardless of my misunderstood comments above, Cullen played only a dozen games in Championship, over 4 months in a poor side. Not sure how many were starts, After that he had to drop down to L1 to get gametime.  

    He played mostly as a CM, not DM but has very few goals, and Wembley apart I'd guess not many assists.  He was on a season loan but only played 29 games. We know how good he is, but I doubt he is on many clubs radar. He is in last year of contract.To suggest he is likely to cost £500k more than Karlan is thankfully deluded.
    Cullen has 12 assists according to statbank, our second best after Taylor.

    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/85874/the-2018-19-charlton-life-end-of-season-statbank/p1

    The difference compared to us selling Grant is West Ham aren’t by Roland and get Prem TV money, they don’t need to sell Cullen cheaply to cover their costs for a few months.
    Was going to say the same, I can remember 3 assists that were huge within the play-offs. Taylor away at Doncaster, Bielik at home to Doncaster, and of course the Bauer winner at Wembley. Cullen was extremely influential for us, probably, and arguably, more so than any other midfielder we had last season and that does include Aribo who was fantastic at the back end of last season but Cullen really made us tick.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,380
    harveys_gardener said:
    WH don't need to sell but by same token, don't need big money for him. Never underestimate the satisfaction of closure. Imagine trying to sell an asset and it drags on months (or three years) because your price is too high.

    They have yet to announce his availability and there are only 17 days until the window slams shut.
    I’d love to think we’ll get him permanently for a bargain price but I don’t think he’ll be cheap enough for Roland to pay the fee and decent wages.
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    edited July 2019
    I think Cullen falls in to the Bonne profile and Mr Ducktape will put his hand in his pocket for a similar fee. He won't be on the radar of many Championship clubs as he missed a third of the season. Surprised at the assists but guess s few were corners.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I would take Cullen all day long, all night long, all week long, all month long, all season long.
    P.S. To even think about getting on Lapslie's back at this stage of his career and development is truly pathetic.
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  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    harveys_gardener said:
    I think Cullen falls in to the Bonne profile and Mr Ducktape will put his hand in his pocket for a similar fee. He won't be on the radar of many Championship clubs as he missed a third of the season. Surprised at the assists but guess s few were corners.
    Only corner I can think of straight away was his first appearance for us against Southend when Bielik scored the winner.

    Other notable assists was his through ball to a Grant away at Bradford for 1-0, his vision to pass to Aribo against Portsmouth at home for 1-0, and his cross to Pearce away at Wycombe, again for 1-0.

    But you are right, it might be a bit surprising the amount of goals he did contribute to. Just shows how influential he was, both on set-pieces and in open play.
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    Sage you have a great recall of his excellent play, but I doubt many Championship scouts rate him as highly.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited July 2019
    harveys_gardener said:
    Sage you have a great recall of his excellent play, but I doubt many Championship scouts rate him as highly.
    I understand from a contact that QPR are keen on on him as it happens 😮
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    RedChaser said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    Sage you have a great recall of his excellent play, but I doubt many Championship scouts rate him as highly.
    I understand from a contact that QPR are keen on on him as it happens 😮
    QPR are in almost a big a mess as us.  If it was his choice I would imagine he would rather be an Addick than a super hoop. 
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RedChaser said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    Sage you have a great recall of his excellent play, but I doubt many Championship scouts rate him as highly.
    I understand from a contact that QPR are keen on on him as it happens 😮
    QPR are in almost a big a mess as us.  If it was his choice I would imagine he would rather be an Addick than a super hoop. 
    Maybe but the point was not many Champuonship scouts rate him as highly which is not true .
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    RedChaser said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RedChaser said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    Sage you have a great recall of his excellent play, but I doubt many Championship scouts rate him as highly.
    I understand from a contact that QPR are keen on on him as it happens 😮
    QPR are in almost a big a mess as us.  If it was his choice I would imagine he would rather be an Addick than a super hoop. 
    Maybe but the point was not many Champuonship scouts rate him as highly which is not true .
    Who else then other than QPR?
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    He is a very good player who will be of interest to a large number of Championship clubs. What we have is that he would have enjoyed last season and he progressed as a player.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    RedChaser said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RedChaser said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    Sage you have a great recall of his excellent play, but I doubt many Championship scouts rate him as highly.
    I understand from a contact that QPR are keen on on him as it happens 😮
    QPR are in almost a big a mess as us.  If it was his choice I would imagine he would rather be an Addick than a super hoop. 
    Maybe but the point was not many Champuonship scouts rate him as highly which is not true .
    If they were his only choices it would actually prove that that IS true.  Charlton and QPR aren't most championship scouts. 

    Anyway it's symantics.  I know @harveys_gardener is on a wind up but I think we over value how much Cullen would be valued by the rest of the championship.  I doubt there will be many of the big boys waving a cheque book at the dildo brothers to get him.  I may be wrong. 
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    cafcfan1990 said:
    RedChaser said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RedChaser said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    Sage you have a great recall of his excellent play, but I doubt many Championship scouts rate him as highly.
    I understand from a contact that QPR are keen on on him as it happens 😮
    QPR are in almost a big a mess as us.  If it was his choice I would imagine he would rather be an Addick than a super hoop. 
    Maybe but the point was not many Champuonship scouts rate him as highly which is not true .
    Who else then other than QPR?
    You're missing the point.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited July 2019
    CafcSCP said:
    covered end junior said:
    Sage said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Sage said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    Scoham, you are talking as a seller. We are a potential buyer. He is shit or wouldn't have been hooked tonight.
    You’re joking right? So does that include every other West Ham player that got taken off today, they all must be shit. Especially Hernandez, Yarmolenko, and Lanzini as they got taken off at half time.

    Cullen was one of the best players in League One last season and will easily command a higher fee than 300k if he was to be sold. He’s been the Republic of Ireland U21 captain and has been called up to their senior team too. If we sign him, we will have a quality player on our hands who is only going to get better and better.

    I really wouldn’t be surprised at all to see Morgan go out on loan, he has fantastic vision and ability going forward but you can tell Bowyer is conscious of his game going the other way. Playing for a League One side maybe until January will do him the world of good. Ideally, Lapslie will do the same but I think that Bowyer trusts him that little bit more than Morgan right now. So we shall see.

    We need at least 4 very good midfielders to come in and complement Forster-Caskey, Williams, and Aneke. Just like we need two strikers to come in, to partner Taylor up front but also to allow Bonne to develop to the standard we need him to be, without the pressure of being thrown in.

    Lots of work to be done, but I think we should hopefully see a couple of signings near the beginning of the week, meaning that we will need around another 4 more in before the window closes

    In Bowyer and Gallen I trust.
    Is that just your gut feeling @Sage or do you know something?
    Been told of one that we are close to, that it could, and hopefully will, be done before Colchester if things go well. No point even naming anyone because I’m not putting myself in that position, just that I expect a signing by Tuesday. Again, so long as it goes to plan.

    The rest is a gut feeling because Bow and Gallen will be working on numerous deals all the time, one is closer than the rest but work to be done on that one yet.

    I expect the next couple of signings to be names of which haven’t been mentioned, or I haven’t seen mentioned beforehand.
    Midfielder?
    Waffle? Jack shit? Na da ?
    Sounds more like you’ve read Bowyers comments and made it sound like you’re ITK.
    names of players?
    behave!
    What is wrong with everybody?!
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  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited July 2019
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RedChaser said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RedChaser said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    Sage you have a great recall of his excellent play, but I doubt many Championship scouts rate him as highly.
    I understand from a contact that QPR are keen on on him as it happens 😮
    QPR are in almost a big a mess as us.  If it was his choice I would imagine he would rather be an Addick than a super hoop. 
    Maybe but the point was not many Champuonship scouts rate him as highly which is not true .
    If they were his only choices it would actually prove that that IS true.  Charlton and QPR aren't most championship scouts. 

    Anyway it's symantics.  I know @harveys_gardener is on a wind up but I think we over value how much Cullen would be valued by the rest of the championship.  I doubt there will be many of the big boys waving a cheque book at the dildo brothers to get him.  I may be wrong. 
     I was merely pointing out that he had interest from another Championship club don't shoot the messenger and if QPR are interested it is highly lkely IMO that others will be, sorry but the rest of your post is just your opinion 😉.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,060
    RedChaser said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RedChaser said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RedChaser said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    Sage you have a great recall of his excellent play, but I doubt many Championship scouts rate him as highly.
    I understand from a contact that QPR are keen on on him as it happens 😮
    QPR are in almost a big a mess as us.  If it was his choice I would imagine he would rather be an Addick than a super hoop. 
    Maybe but the point was not many Champuonship scouts rate him as highly which is not true .
    If they were his only choices it would actually prove that that IS true.  Charlton and QPR aren't most championship scouts. 

    Anyway it's symantics.  I know @harveys_gardener is on a wind up but I think we over value how much Cullen would be valued by the rest of the championship.  I doubt there will be many of the big boys waving a cheque book at the dildo brothers to get him.  I may be wrong. 
     I was merely pointing out that he had interest from another Championship club don't shoot the messenger and if QPR are inteeested it is highly lkely IMO that others will be, sorry but the rest of your post is just your opinion 😉.
    Causing trouble again mate, go and have a drink and calm down.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    RedChaser said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RedChaser said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RedChaser said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    Sage you have a great recall of his excellent play, but I doubt many Championship scouts rate him as highly.
    I understand from a contact that QPR are keen on on him as it happens 😮
    QPR are in almost a big a mess as us.  If it was his choice I would imagine he would rather be an Addick than a super hoop. 
    Maybe but the point was not many Champuonship scouts rate him as highly which is not true .
    If they were his only choices it would actually prove that that IS true.  Charlton and QPR aren't most championship scouts. 

    Anyway it's symantics.  I know @harveys_gardener is on a wind up but I think we over value how much Cullen would be valued by the rest of the championship.  I doubt there will be many of the big boys waving a cheque book at the dildo brothers to get him.  I may be wrong. 
     I was merely pointing out that he had interest from another Championship club don't shoot the messenger and if QPR are inteeested it is highly lkely IMO that others will be, sorry but the rest of your post is just your opinion 😉.
    Causing trouble again mate, go and have a drink and calm down.
    I'm just warming up mate 😉.
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    Thanx Red, so fingers and toes crossed.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    RedChaser said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    RedChaser said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RedChaser said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    Sage you have a great recall of his excellent play, but I doubt many Championship scouts rate him as highly.
    I understand from a contact that QPR are keen on on him as it happens 😮
    QPR are in almost a big a mess as us.  If it was his choice I would imagine he would rather be an Addick than a super hoop. 
    Maybe but the point was not many Champuonship scouts rate him as highly which is not true .
    Who else then other than QPR?
    You're missing the point.
    I'm not, you have indirectly said many Championship scouts rate him highly but I doubt you have proof of that. 

    If I'm honest, I'm not sure how many Clubs would want him but would be surprised if most bottom half clubs wouldn't take him. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    I don't think you need proof - good players will be on the radar, it is safe to assume. I agree, most bottom half clubs would probably be keen and that is quite a few clubs!
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    cafcfan1990 said:
    RedChaser said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    RedChaser said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RedChaser said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    Sage you have a great recall of his excellent play, but I doubt many Championship scouts rate him as highly.
    I understand from a contact that QPR are keen on on him as it happens 😮
    QPR are in almost a big a mess as us.  If it was his choice I would imagine he would rather be an Addick than a super hoop. 
    Maybe but the point was not many Champuonship scouts rate him as highly which is not true .
    Who else then other than QPR?
    You're missing the point.
    I'm not, you have indirectly said many Championship scouts rate him highly but I doubt you have proof of that. 

    If I'm honest, I'm not sure how many Clubs would want him but would be surprised if most bottom half clubs wouldn't take him. 
    Well that's your incorrect interpretation, see my subsequent post and have a rethink. Do you seriously think that as an Ireland international and his performances for us last season culminating in an assist for our winner at Wembley on live TV for all to see that he is not on the radar of other Championship clubs? Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to see him re sign for us but don't get all upset with news that we don't have first dibs and that there is other interest out there in him.
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,345
    The main reason Josh joined us over a championship side was due to his close friendship with Lewis Page. 






  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    RedChaser said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    RedChaser said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    RedChaser said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RedChaser said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    Sage you have a great recall of his excellent play, but I doubt many Championship scouts rate him as highly.
    I understand from a contact that QPR are keen on on him as it happens 😮
    QPR are in almost a big a mess as us.  If it was his choice I would imagine he would rather be an Addick than a super hoop. 
    Maybe but the point was not many Champuonship scouts rate him as highly which is not true .
    Who else then other than QPR?
    You're missing the point.
    I'm not, you have indirectly said many Championship scouts rate him highly but I doubt you have proof of that. 

    If I'm honest, I'm not sure how many Clubs would want him but would be surprised if most bottom half clubs wouldn't take him. 
    Well that's your incorrect interpretation, see my subsequent post and have a rethink. Do you seriously think that as an Ireland international and his performances for us last season culminating in an assist for our winner at Wembley on live TV for all to see that he is not on the radar of other Championship clubs? Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to see him re sign for us but don't get all upset with news that we don't have first dibs and that there is other interest out there in him.
    I really don't think it is, you said it's not true that many Championship scouts rate him highly, but how do you know that? As for being an Ireland international, he has been called up once and never been capped. Yes he done very well for him and I am sure many Championship clubs would take him but to my knowledge little interest has been shown. I believe West Ham would sell him so why has no club bid?

    I'm not expecting him back to be honest and it would be a very nice surprise if he did come back but I think if West Ham let him go on loan again we have a very good chance of landing him. 

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