I would be amazed if anyone pays 10 m for Bielik. The boy was fantastic for us last season, and I'm sure would do well in the Championship, but that is too much for a CB/DM with 1 good season in league 1 and a decent U21 tournament on his CV.
Deciding to stay and fight for his place in the team. Good for him, bad news for us. I get the impression that if he hasn’t been playing much in the first half of the season, he will go out on loan in January, but for now, I think Cullen stays.
Bielik, Cullen and Aribo were all beautifully wonderful on the ball. Without it and under defensive pressure none of them were able to organise between themselves how to drop and who to stay close to.
I'd love to see Bielik back, but his value is not much more than Arsenal paid for him. He had a failed Birmingham loan, didn't play for Walsall, and was excellent for us in League One. Irregardless if we signed him I still think we desperately need an athletic dm, who's willing to harangue and berate both teamate and opposition.
Cullen coming back was always less likely the more pre-season went on and he played games. The way I saw it, if he was ever going to come back, he wouldn’t have been involved as much for West Ham and Pellegrini would’ve let him out on loan by now, just like Hugill.
Right now, the bigger news should be missing out on Herbie Kane. He might not be Cullen, but he was always going to be on loan this season.
Bielik, Cullen and Aribo were all beautifully wonderful on the ball. Without it and under defensive pressure none of them were able to organise between themselves how to drop and who to stay close to.
I'd love to see Bielik back, but his value is not much more than Arsenal paid for him. He had a failed Birmingham loan, didn't play for Walsall, and was excellent for us in League One. Irregardless if we signed him I still think we desperately need an athletic dm, who's willing to harangue and berate both teamate and opposition.
I don’t understand anyone who says about Bielik and his time previously in the Championship.
Bielik was 19 years old, at his first loan spell, at a club which had 3 different managers in one season and finished 19th.
When he was at Walsall, he dislocated his shoulder and then returned back to Arsenal.
His first full season was with us last season and he improved massively, to the point of becoming one of our most important players.
At the age of 21, with his background in football, his ability on the ball and potential to improve and impose himself on games, maybe £10mil now is steep, but he will be worth it. Derby are getting themselves a very, very good player.
Bielik, Cullen and Aribo were all beautifully wonderful on the ball. Without it and under defensive pressure none of them were able to organise between themselves how to drop and who to stay close to.
I'd love to see Bielik back, but his value is not much more than Arsenal paid for him. He had a failed Birmingham loan, didn't play for Walsall, and was excellent for us in League One. Irregardless if we signed him I still think we desperately need an athletic dm, who's willing to harangue and berate both teamate and opposition.
He didn't play at Walsall because he was injured. With the sort of money now being spent in the Championship he'll go for a lot more than Arsenal paid for him and if he continues to play regularly could be worth a lot more in a few years.
Cullen coming back was always less likely the more pre-season went on and he played games. The way I saw it, if he was ever going to come back, he wouldn’t have been involved as much for West Ham and Pellegrini would’ve let him out on loan by now, just like Hugill.
Right now, the bigger news should be missing out on Herbie Kane. He might not be Cullen, but he was always going to be on loan this season.
Has Kane defo gone to Hull, couldn't see that reported. Bowyer on record as an admirer means that is a real shame. How about Curtis Jones from liverpool instead
Cullen coming back was always less likely the more pre-season went on and he played games. The way I saw it, if he was ever going to come back, he wouldn’t have been involved as much for West Ham and Pellegrini would’ve let him out on loan by now, just like Hugill.
Right now, the bigger news should be missing out on Herbie Kane. He might not be Cullen, but he was always going to be on loan this season.
Has Kane defo gone to Hull, couldn't see that reported. Bowyer on record as an admirer means that is a real shame. How about Curtis Jones from liverpool instead
Not sure if it’s Hull or Rangers, but I don’t think he’s coming here. Everything points towards missing out on him and more likely to join Hull.
I fully expect things to be happening tomorrow. Be it in our favour with a signing or two, or not in our favour and confirmation of missing out on more targets.
Not the end of the world, but I think it’s going to be a big couple of days coming up for us in the transfer market.
Kane was always likely to stay oop north & Bielik & Cullen have looked unlikely for about a month. I'm not concerned about not getting them as it was looking obvious, but I am concerned who will we get.
With the current squad Charlton will go down. Just have to hope Lee Bowyer uses the loan market as well as he did last season. 5 good loan players in a starting 11 is a big chunk of the team & can make a huge difference. For that reason, I haven't given up hope for this season just yet
The problem with 5 players being a “big chunk of the team “ is that if you get it wrong and woefully and desperately so with al 5 of them then you could end up with one of the most shockingly inept and embarrassing performances that will live on in memory for ever ,Just think of the “ Iceland 5” for England!s defeat at the European Championship in 2016 . Walker, Rose, Dier , Ali and Kane. Those 5 each turned in five of the worst performances ever in an England shirt.Something that all Spurs fans need to be reminded of on a regular basis .
Whats an arsenal fan doing on here?
I get the first part 5 players is a big chunk of the squad, however your example is awful. Using a one off match with people who are generally the best players in the England set up at that time, fortunately a knockout format isn't going to be as reflective as a league where you have all season to make sure you get it right. Eg. consistency
We are going to struggle at present though , failing a few ridiculous signings
Not sure that the five of them were /are generally the best players in the England set up at that time or since especially if played when not fit .Ali was and is dreadful in an England shirt after god knows how many chances he has been given over the last 4 years . Walker can’t defend even if his life depended on it . Rose is too temperamental and easy to wind up . Dier is a plodding two dimensional player and Kane takes a good Penalty but should stick to appearing in movies like LALa Land as he can never get out of third gear on the international scene . The example I gave is most apposite - you stick in 5 players who are not up to it in our starting eleven and it shows you how awful the consequences might be . It doesn’t matter if it is a club match , a European tie , international , one off match or over a season . Garbage in equals garbage out in any context .
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Polish reports say Derby have offered 10m and it’s been accepted. Derby Telegraph says no bid made but they are interested.
blinding night if so
I'd love to see Bielik back, but his value is not much more than Arsenal paid for him. He had a failed Birmingham loan, didn't play for Walsall, and was excellent for us in League One. Irregardless if we signed him I still think we desperately need an athletic dm, who's willing to harangue and berate both teamate and opposition.
Right now, the bigger news should be missing out on Herbie Kane. He might not be Cullen, but he was always going to be on loan this season.
Bielik was 19 years old, at his first loan spell, at a club which had 3 different managers in one season and finished 19th.
When he was at Walsall, he dislocated his shoulder and then returned back to Arsenal.
His first full season was with us last season and he improved massively, to the point of becoming one of our most important players.
At the age of 21, with his background in football, his ability on the ball and potential to improve and impose himself on games, maybe £10mil now is steep, but he will be worth it. Derby are getting themselves a very, very good player.
Kane and Cullen are a kick in the teeth. We are in serious trouble.
I fully expect things to be happening tomorrow. Be it in our favour with a signing or two, or not in our favour and confirmation of missing out on more targets.
Not the end of the world, but I think it’s going to be a big couple of days coming up for us in the transfer market.
I'm not concerned about not getting them as it was looking obvious, but I am concerned who will we get.
Still nothing happening and we need half a dozen more bodies. Not looking good.