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January 2020 transfer rumours thread (Deadline Day starts Page 283)
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So he has been offered a deal already from ESI, and said no, is that what your mate said ? Or that ESI wouldn't want to offer our most important player (24 goals and many assists say he is) a much improved contract.J BLOCK said:
Nope I’m referring to a text I received this afternoon from a pal who works for the clubeaststandmike said:
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Looks like he is out of contract in the summer so maybe open to offers.MarcusH26 said:
Yup bang on the money!soapboxsam said:
I was surprised when he left Leeds.bolloxbolder said:Alex Mowatt from Barnsley is latest rumour.
Is my memory right that he scored 2 cracking goals against us and Johann Berg Gudmundsson got a brace in the same match against United ?
Would be very surprised if Barnsley let him go.1 -
I'm. I always recycle and pick up all the litter in my cul de sac.harveys_gardener said:Who is Green?2 -
But do you drive an ugly Prius?soapboxsam said:
I'm. I always recycle and pick up all the litter in my cul de sac.harveys_gardener said:Who is Green?0 -
Most if not all our "star" injured players are players that have a history of injury.
Anyone expecting our "star" players to slot back into a team that started so well and off we go again are deluded.
We are on a slump that will take some getting out of from here on in. Good investment and a couple of crocked gooduns back hopefully will save us but this is Charlton people and nothing comes easy.
I can well see us rich and in D1 next year.5 -
Big fella, passes the height test, likes sweet corn 😉.harveys_gardener said:Who is Green?6 -
Oi, you can’t say things like that. Apparently they will all be back soon, injury free and never to be injured again, with quality players joining in due course. Relegation? Bah humbug.soapy_jones said:Most if not all our "star" injured players are players that have a history of injury.
Anyone expecting our "star" players to slot back into a team that started so well and off we go again are deluded.
We are on a slump that will take some getting out of from here on in. Good investment and a couple of crocked gooduns back hopefully will save us but this is Charlton people and nothing comes easy.
I can well see us rich and in D1 next year.3 -
Good luck to him.Melrose said:Ah well, let him go then. Obviously wants a "pay day" and no longer wants to play for us.0 -
Has Taylor ever renewed his contract at the same club? In this case past behaviour probably is an indicator of future behaviour.
While I agree no-one is bigger than the club, let's not underestimate how difficult he could be to replace, and with Bonne out injured too.
Intetesting challenges for the new owners - we will get a good idea of their mettle very quickly.3 -
Great post.Sage said:People seriously need to chill.
Does anyone honestly think we will be bringing in just two more players, a centre midfielder and another striker? Then to also say about the battle of relegation, and how League One would be a disaster. Sure, it would be horrendous, but it’s not going to happen.
ESI have been trying to run things for at least a week. They’re now in the driving seat, but they’ve only just managed to put their seat belt on and put their foot on the clutch ready for first gear. The engine gets started tomorrow. The real work begins tomorrow. Transfers and discussions with various people will be in motion and they’re going to ensure Bowyer has the tools to steer us to safety.
We have won only 1 game in 14 but are still 5 points and a better goal difference outside the relegation zone. Yes we had a great start and people keep saying we would be bottom without it. Sure, you’re right, but those first 6 games was when we actually had a squad of senior players. The moment the first international break came was the moment things started falling apart for us with injuries. Since we beat Derby 3-0, Williams last game for us, we have picked up 7 points. That not only shows the position the team were in when we actually had a team and squad of players, but also how poor some teams below us are, even with them picking up some decent results themselves lately. But that’s going to happen.
As I said yesterday, let’s cut the squabbling and negativity because things are now very much in hand. Let’s look at the bigger picture and know we have almost half our squad of players still to come back from injury as well as others who will be joining, and more than just two more. These young kids have been a credit to themselves and the club. They’ve kept us competitive and we have never been completely out of a game in all this time. Now it’s time that they’re going to get some help. So let’s get behind them and trust the work that will be going ahead.
I’ve heard some good snippets over the last couple of days. It’s important we leave the negativity behind and move forward together. We will be okay this season.
I'm confident that if we'd kept 80-90% of our squad fit then we'd be up there in the top 6. Especially when you see Millwall up there.
People need to be realistic, yes we have money, but we're not going to go out and buy 7-8 players in this window as when the original players return we'll have far too many. If we can sign a striker, centre mid, centre back and left back and get the likes of Williams, Bonne, Hemed, Cullen, Oztumer and Field back fit then we're going to be ok.7 -
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It would also be madness for a Bowyer to say - we are going to buy 8 players now . Clearly we don’t want to give away what money we do (or don’t) have .ShootersHillGuru said:My glass is mostly half full but I predict we will go into the bottom three at some point. I really hope all you optimistic posters are right that we avoid relegation but it’s going to be tight I reckon.7 -
He's 29 and we are his 8th permanent club. His 3 years at Wimbledon (where after his first year he signed a new 2 year deal) are the longest he's ever spent at a club.Weegie Addick said:Has Taylor ever renewed his contract at the same club? In this case past behaviour probably is an indicator of future behaviour.
While I agree no-one is bigger than the club, let's not underestimate how difficult he could be to replace, and with Bonne out injured too.
Intetesting challenges for the new owners - we will get a good idea of their mettle very quickly.2 -
Interesting that Bowyer said words to the effect of ‘I’m not to to alienate the players that got us here’ when talking about new signings.wmcf123 said:
It would also be madness for a Bowyer to say - we are going to buy 8 players now . Clearly we don’t want to give away what money we do (or don’t) have .ShootersHillGuru said:My glass is mostly half full but I predict we will go into the bottom three at some point. I really hope all you optimistic posters are right that we avoid relegation but it’s going to be tight I reckon.I can’t remember if it was on the SLP site. So to me there is a hint that there could be quite a bit of money.... or it’s a smokescreen for there isn’t quite as much money as you all think so I’ll temper expectations by feeding you this.
I expect and hope it’s the former!
As for Lyle last night, was there anything obvious in the match, like signals to the bench, to suggest he was having an issue?0 -
From the Daily Mail. (Not linking because f*** them).
West Brom and Swansea join race to sign 19-year-old Chelsea midfielder Conor Gallagher
The 19-year-old is expected to cut short his season-long loan at Charlton this month.
Premier League club Burnley are thought to be frontrunners for Gallagher's signature.
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Not that I noticed on the box however the camera tends to follow the action. He had the chance of a big payday in the summer and you can't blame him at this stage of his career for still hankering after one now. Don't get me wrong he has been great for us and I'd rather he stayed but life will go on if he leaves and no player is bigger than the club.EastTerrace said:wmcf123 said:
It would also be madness for a Bowyer to say - we are going to buy 8 players now . Clearly we don’t want to give away what money we do (or don’t) have .ShootersHillGuru said:My glass is mostly half full but I predict we will go into the bottom three at some point. I really hope all you optimistic posters are right that we avoid relegation but it’s going to be tight I reckon.As for Lyle last night, was there anything obvious in the match, like signals to the bench, to suggest he was having an issue?
Conspiracy theories will always arise during a transfer window. Who knows if it was a genuine tightening in the thigh muscle or not but there is no way he is going to risk a further spell out injured or the chance of a big payday elsewhere. Watch this space.0 -
Was posted yesterday here mate;Chunes said:From the Daily Mail. (Not linking because f*** them).West Brom and Swansea join race to sign 19-year-old Chelsea midfielder Conor Gallagher
The 19-year-old is expected to cut short his season-long loan at Charlton this month.
Premier League club Burnley are thought to be frontrunners for Gallagher's signature.
https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/86360/conor-gallagher-signs-season-long-loan/p20
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Yesterday’s news - literally.Chunes said:From the Daily Mail. (Not linking because f*** them).West Brom and Swansea join race to sign 19-year-old Chelsea midfielder Conor Gallagher
The 19-year-old is expected to cut short his season-long loan at Charlton this month.
Premier League club Burnley are thought to be frontrunners for Gallagher's signature.
Bows says he has spoken with Lampard and he is happy with his progress and expects him to stay.
I would have thought that one learns more about a player when the chips are down and that the only circumstances that he would be recalled is if Chelsea wish to sell him. I do not believe that they do.2 -
Field is out injured for the seasonChris_from_Sidcup said:
Great post.Sage said:People seriously need to chill.
Does anyone honestly think we will be bringing in just two more players, a centre midfielder and another striker? Then to also say about the battle of relegation, and how League One would be a disaster. Sure, it would be horrendous, but it’s not going to happen.
ESI have been trying to run things for at least a week. They’re now in the driving seat, but they’ve only just managed to put their seat belt on and put their foot on the clutch ready for first gear. The engine gets started tomorrow. The real work begins tomorrow. Transfers and discussions with various people will be in motion and they’re going to ensure Bowyer has the tools to steer us to safety.
We have won only 1 game in 14 but are still 5 points and a better goal difference outside the relegation zone. Yes we had a great start and people keep saying we would be bottom without it. Sure, you’re right, but those first 6 games was when we actually had a squad of senior players. The moment the first international break came was the moment things started falling apart for us with injuries. Since we beat Derby 3-0, Williams last game for us, we have picked up 7 points. That not only shows the position the team were in when we actually had a team and squad of players, but also how poor some teams below us are, even with them picking up some decent results themselves lately. But that’s going to happen.
As I said yesterday, let’s cut the squabbling and negativity because things are now very much in hand. Let’s look at the bigger picture and know we have almost half our squad of players still to come back from injury as well as others who will be joining, and more than just two more. These young kids have been a credit to themselves and the club. They’ve kept us competitive and we have never been completely out of a game in all this time. Now it’s time that they’re going to get some help. So let’s get behind them and trust the work that will be going ahead.
I’ve heard some good snippets over the last couple of days. It’s important we leave the negativity behind and move forward together. We will be okay this season.
I'm confident that if we'd kept 80-90% of our squad fit then we'd be up there in the top 6. Especially when you see Millwall up there.
People need to be realistic, yes we have money, but we're not going to go out and buy 7-8 players in this window as when the original players return we'll have far too many. If we can sign a striker, centre mid, centre back and left back and get the likes of Williams, Bonne, Hemed, Cullen, Oztumer and Field back fit then we're going to be ok.0 -
If that's the case about Sam Field then that's a massive shame for us because I thought he was pretty decent.DOUCHER said:
Field is out injured for the seasonChris_from_Sidcup said:
Great post.Sage said:People seriously need to chill.
Does anyone honestly think we will be bringing in just two more players, a centre midfielder and another striker? Then to also say about the battle of relegation, and how League One would be a disaster. Sure, it would be horrendous, but it’s not going to happen.
ESI have been trying to run things for at least a week. They’re now in the driving seat, but they’ve only just managed to put their seat belt on and put their foot on the clutch ready for first gear. The engine gets started tomorrow. The real work begins tomorrow. Transfers and discussions with various people will be in motion and they’re going to ensure Bowyer has the tools to steer us to safety.
We have won only 1 game in 14 but are still 5 points and a better goal difference outside the relegation zone. Yes we had a great start and people keep saying we would be bottom without it. Sure, you’re right, but those first 6 games was when we actually had a squad of senior players. The moment the first international break came was the moment things started falling apart for us with injuries. Since we beat Derby 3-0, Williams last game for us, we have picked up 7 points. That not only shows the position the team were in when we actually had a team and squad of players, but also how poor some teams below us are, even with them picking up some decent results themselves lately. But that’s going to happen.
As I said yesterday, let’s cut the squabbling and negativity because things are now very much in hand. Let’s look at the bigger picture and know we have almost half our squad of players still to come back from injury as well as others who will be joining, and more than just two more. These young kids have been a credit to themselves and the club. They’ve kept us competitive and we have never been completely out of a game in all this time. Now it’s time that they’re going to get some help. So let’s get behind them and trust the work that will be going ahead.
I’ve heard some good snippets over the last couple of days. It’s important we leave the negativity behind and move forward together. We will be okay this season.
I'm confident that if we'd kept 80-90% of our squad fit then we'd be up there in the top 6. Especially when you see Millwall up there.
People need to be realistic, yes we have money, but we're not going to go out and buy 7-8 players in this window as when the original players return we'll have far too many. If we can sign a striker, centre mid, centre back and left back and get the likes of Williams, Bonne, Hemed, Cullen, Oztumer and Field back fit then we're going to be ok.
So why don't we do what we have done with Leko and give him back to West Brom then that opens up another possible loan move opportunity for another player to bring in?5 -
Against Bristol city he looked bang up for it - his touch was good, he was sharp and energetic - I didn’t see that against Swansea - was Bristol city showtime to prove fitness for next club or are we imagining things or is he genuinely just not 100% yet?? Didn’t see any signs of a thigh injury but who knowsEastTerrace said:
Interesting that Bowyer said words to the effect of ‘I’m not to to alienate the players that got us here’ when talking about new signings.wmcf123 said:
It would also be madness for a Bowyer to say - we are going to buy 8 players now . Clearly we don’t want to give away what money we do (or don’t) have .ShootersHillGuru said:My glass is mostly half full but I predict we will go into the bottom three at some point. I really hope all you optimistic posters are right that we avoid relegation but it’s going to be tight I reckon.I can’t remember if it was on the SLP site. So to me there is a hint that there could be quite a bit of money.... or it’s a smokescreen for there isn’t quite as much money as you all think so I’ll temper expectations by feeding you this.
I expect and hope it’s the former!
As for Lyle last night, was there anything obvious in the match, like signals to the bench, to suggest he was having an issue?1 -
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Awful news regarding field but like leko aslong we get someone in who is fit to start ASAP it might be more beneficial than trying to get field match fit for a further month once he returned next month. We're in desperate need for match fit seasoned pros in the middle of the park.1
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Just because we have rich owners that doesn't mean we should automatically be buying 5-6 players, currently the first aim is to stay in the division. Any signing have to be unique, they have to help us out now and also be in the plans for at least the next 18 months imo so it wont be straight forward. I am not expecting that many to sign this window for that reason and hopefully with so many players out surely they must be returning soon and we will have a good enough squad. I'd be more than happy with a few signings, the ironic thing is where we have been using the academy players is in the middle, beginning of the season it seemed like that was the area we had the most depth, but just a series of events/ being unlucky and here we are.
I trust Gallen/Bowyer will sign whoever we need to and in the summer will be the big changes to push us on to where we want to be. A bit of patience and less panic for now, the biggest problem is right now grinding results with less than half a squad also keeping hold of Taylor.
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Unfortunately, I am afraid that people need to brace themselves about Taylor. It seems quite likely that a team like Brentford will see him as the last piece to get them into the Premiership and will offer 6/7/8 million and he will have to go, not least because he will be desperate to do so.
At 29, this could be his only chance to play in the Premiership and he will be desperate to take it. If he stays here and very best case scenario we go up next year, he would still be 31/32 years old and maybe past it. So it is about far more than any contract we can offer.
I would say this is a situation ESI have been landed with, not their fault and people will need to realise that.1 -
I wanna move to this fictitious world where all our players are back fully fit and fresh and we are back to the results at the beginning of the season where we had the rub of the green .
i mean it’s always gonna arrive in the next few weeks
people will still be saying it come the end of March when we’re in the bottom 3 and 6 points adrift .
Cullen and Williams proper game changers
Taylor is needed fully fit and raring to go
the rest aren’t anywhere as near an influence as them 3
Bonne has been exceptional at times as well
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Shit didn't know that, as i hadn't read about him being sent back.DOUCHER said:
Field is out injured for the seasonChris_from_Sidcup said:
Great post.Sage said:People seriously need to chill.
Does anyone honestly think we will be bringing in just two more players, a centre midfielder and another striker? Then to also say about the battle of relegation, and how League One would be a disaster. Sure, it would be horrendous, but it’s not going to happen.
ESI have been trying to run things for at least a week. They’re now in the driving seat, but they’ve only just managed to put their seat belt on and put their foot on the clutch ready for first gear. The engine gets started tomorrow. The real work begins tomorrow. Transfers and discussions with various people will be in motion and they’re going to ensure Bowyer has the tools to steer us to safety.
We have won only 1 game in 14 but are still 5 points and a better goal difference outside the relegation zone. Yes we had a great start and people keep saying we would be bottom without it. Sure, you’re right, but those first 6 games was when we actually had a squad of senior players. The moment the first international break came was the moment things started falling apart for us with injuries. Since we beat Derby 3-0, Williams last game for us, we have picked up 7 points. That not only shows the position the team were in when we actually had a team and squad of players, but also how poor some teams below us are, even with them picking up some decent results themselves lately. But that’s going to happen.
As I said yesterday, let’s cut the squabbling and negativity because things are now very much in hand. Let’s look at the bigger picture and know we have almost half our squad of players still to come back from injury as well as others who will be joining, and more than just two more. These young kids have been a credit to themselves and the club. They’ve kept us competitive and we have never been completely out of a game in all this time. Now it’s time that they’re going to get some help. So let’s get behind them and trust the work that will be going ahead.
I’ve heard some good snippets over the last couple of days. It’s important we leave the negativity behind and move forward together. We will be okay this season.
I'm confident that if we'd kept 80-90% of our squad fit then we'd be up there in the top 6. Especially when you see Millwall up there.
People need to be realistic, yes we have money, but we're not going to go out and buy 7-8 players in this window as when the original players return we'll have far too many. If we can sign a striker, centre mid, centre back and left back and get the likes of Williams, Bonne, Hemed, Cullen, Oztumer and Field back fit then we're going to be ok.
So we're terminating all of Kayal, Leko and Field's loans then i assume. Green will replace Leko. Need at least 2 more midfielders then.2 -
can we still include all the players that aren’t at the club in our injury list
mendonca , hunt , Rufus to be added to it1 -
Quite upset that you didn’t put Gibbsoohaahmortimer said:can we still include all the players that aren’t at the club in our injury list
mendonca , hunt , Rufus to be added to it2 -
Thats not what ive been saying and you know it. My point is without serious investment in the team in the next four weeks there is a very good chance of relegation. Of course I have no idea the budget or intention of the new owner but it doesn't matter. Do you really think that if for example Charlton were to approach Peterborough about Toney that it wouldn’t be common knowledge for every agent in about a day. I know even if it were true which I don’t think it is by the way that we are now “rich” you dont want to shout it from the rooftops but football is a very close knit world and what fees and wages are offered by clubs are common knowledge very quickly. Very nieve to think otherwise. Charltons league status is at present in serious risk and we will know just about everything we need about ESI by 1st February. 🌎Exiled_Addick said:
You’re right Shooters... Bowyer should be shouting from the roof tops that he’s desperate to sign anyone he can and has a bottomless pot of money to spend. It’s the surest way to get a good deal on the players he signs.ShootersHillGuru said:
You have a point but Bowyer has said he expects 3 players. Green is one. A midfielder from Barnsley is our cash target and a PL striker loan. That won’t keep us up.Todds_right_hook said:
8hrs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus, give the new owners a chance to create user names and email addresses to connect to the server before you write them off.ShootersHillGuru said:In a relegation dogfight now. A talented But raw arthritic 21 year old plus a midfielder from Barnsley and a PL loan doesn’t smack of loaded owners to me given the current plight.They probably don’t know where the tea and coffee are kept yet.Take a deep breath, give them time to settle in and actually sign players first
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If we were to go after Toney (and i doubt we will) then i'd like to think we'd be sensible and get 2-3 other signings in first before announcing to the country we have 8m+ to spend on a striker.ShootersHillGuru said:
Thats not what ive been saying and you know it. My point is without serious investment in the team in the next four weeks there is a very good chance of relegation. Of course I have no idea the budget or intention of the new owner but it doesn't matter. Do you really think that if for example Charlton were to approach Peterborough about Toney that it wouldn’t be common knowledge for every agent in about a day. I know even if it were true which I don’t think it is by the way that we are now “rich” you dont want to shout it from the rooftops but football is a very close knit world and what fees and wages are offered by clubs are common knowledge very quickly. Very nieve to think otherwise. Charltons league status is at present in serious risk and we will know just about everything we need about ESI by 1st February. 🌎Exiled_Addick said:
You’re right Shooters... Bowyer should be shouting from the roof tops that he’s desperate to sign anyone he can and has a bottomless pot of money to spend. It’s the surest way to get a good deal on the players he signs.ShootersHillGuru said:
You have a point but Bowyer has said he expects 3 players. Green is one. A midfielder from Barnsley is our cash target and a PL striker loan. That won’t keep us up.Todds_right_hook said:
8hrs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus, give the new owners a chance to create user names and email addresses to connect to the server before you write them off.ShootersHillGuru said:In a relegation dogfight now. A talented But raw arthritic 21 year old plus a midfielder from Barnsley and a PL loan doesn’t smack of loaded owners to me given the current plight.They probably don’t know where the tea and coffee are kept yet.Take a deep breath, give them time to settle in and actually sign players first
I wonder what planet some of you lot live on sometimes.2 -
Is that how it works ? Negotiations are always tricky and deals happen when they happen and not when or in the order you want them to.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If we were to go after Toney (and i doubt we will) then i'd like to think we'd be sensible and get 2-3 other signings in first before announcing to the country we have 8m+ to spend on a striker.ShootersHillGuru said:
Thats not what ive been saying and you know it. My point is without serious investment in the team in the next four weeks there is a very good chance of relegation. Of course I have no idea the budget or intention of the new owner but it doesn't matter. Do you really think that if for example Charlton were to approach Peterborough about Toney that it wouldn’t be common knowledge for every agent in about a day. I know even if it were true which I don’t think it is by the way that we are now “rich” you dont want to shout it from the rooftops but football is a very close knit world and what fees and wages are offered by clubs are common knowledge very quickly. Very nieve to think otherwise. Charltons league status is at present in serious risk and we will know just about everything we need about ESI by 1st February. 🌎Exiled_Addick said:
You’re right Shooters... Bowyer should be shouting from the roof tops that he’s desperate to sign anyone he can and has a bottomless pot of money to spend. It’s the surest way to get a good deal on the players he signs.ShootersHillGuru said:
You have a point but Bowyer has said he expects 3 players. Green is one. A midfielder from Barnsley is our cash target and a PL striker loan. That won’t keep us up.Todds_right_hook said:
8hrs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus, give the new owners a chance to create user names and email addresses to connect to the server before you write them off.ShootersHillGuru said:In a relegation dogfight now. A talented But raw arthritic 21 year old plus a midfielder from Barnsley and a PL loan doesn’t smack of loaded owners to me given the current plight.They probably don’t know where the tea and coffee are kept yet.Take a deep breath, give them time to settle in and actually sign players first
I wonder what planet some of you lot live on sometimes.2
