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2019 General Election - Match Thread

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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034
    wonder if Brexit party will get more votes (and no seats) than the LibDs and SNP ?
    Definitely they’ll get more than the SNP
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Social media is a funny thing.  Judging by my Facebook and Twitter feeds over the past few weeks, you would think hardly anyone votes Tory, yet come election night, they win by a very large margin. 

    I think Labour voters are just very very vocal about it 
    At work this week we were discussing the "silent majority" and their influence. Don't know if there is any evidence to suggest this exists, but it certainly seems to play out...
    Quite possibly. Also, people don't want to admit to voting Tory... Well, if you're ashamed!
  • se9addick said:
    I think it’s more that Labour supporters tend to be younger and therefore more engaged with social media. Tory voters tend to be older and therefore engage with traditional media (newspapers etc) so you see more Tory representation in the printed press.

    These are generalisations but I think broadly accurate.
    Agree with this.
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,360
    Tory voters are generally too old to know what social media is. 
  • LATEST from Diane Abbott's Twitter feed "According to my maths, Labour on course for a landslide victory" 
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Seeing some serious delusion from the Corbyn cultists. This is at least partially on them
  • Not all obviously but the left always have a lot to say, on social media, down the pub, in my office. And just like after the Brexit vote, the next stage will be to get nasty about it, already seen the insults flying on fb 🙄
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    se9addick said:
    wonder if Brexit party will get more votes (and no seats) than the LibDs and SNP ?
    Definitely they’ll get more than the SNP
    enforces the argument for proportional representation .. BUT, us Brits tend to like winners and losers
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    edited December 2019
    If this WASN'T a Brexit election, I'd love to know why LEAVE voting constituencies are swinging to the Tories and the REMAIN voting constituencies are to a lesser extent (probably) swinging to Labour.
  • Swinson is 50/50 to lose her seat. 
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  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,824
    se9addick said:
    I think it’s more that Labour supporters tend to be younger and therefore more engaged with social media. Tory voters tend to be older and therefore engage with traditional media (newspapers etc) so you see more Tory representation in the printed press.

    These are generalisations but I think broadly accurate.
    I also think it’s a key point that it’s a lot lot easier to say things when it’s not your party that is actually in power or has any form of accountability. In power, you are a target. 
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,824
    Still have a feel that Conservative won’t get as many seats as predicted. 
    Now not so sure after Swindon North vote
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,845
    Katya Adler could have some
  • If this WASN'T a Brexit election, I'd love to know why LEAVE voting constituencies are swinging to the Tories and the REMAIN voting constituencies are to a lesser extent (probably) swinging to Labour.
    Just said on Sky that exit poll is showing Labour is down in both Remain and Leave voting seats.
  • C_A_F_C
    C_A_F_C Posts: 3,866
    Yeah, Lib Dem and Greens also taking votes from Labour, the tactical voting campaigns have failed.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Off_it said:
    Katya Adler could have some
    And Nina Hossain.
  • Vincenzo
    Vincenzo Posts: 2,911
    edited December 2019
    Let me be the first to welcome our Russian overlords.

    The UK is finished, Europe is weakened, Brits think they’ve taken back control - money well spent!
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    edited December 2019
    Just had moment, thinking about how old I’m going to be before we have a realistic chance of seeing a Labour government...

    Kids who are eight/nine years old today will have the vote.
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  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    edited December 2019
    Vincenzo said:
    Let me be the first to welcome our Russian overlords.

    The UK is finished, Europe is weakened, Brits think they’ve taken back control - money well spent!


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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,623
    se9addick said:
    I think it’s more that Labour supporters tend to be younger and therefore more engaged with social media. Tory voters tend to be older and therefore engage with traditional media (newspapers etc) so you see more Tory representation in the printed press.

    These are generalisations but I think broadly accurate.
    This. A lot of Tory voters are aged 50+ & think a tweet is something a budgie does.

    Dont forget anyone aged 50+ remembers the Labour Government of the 1970's......The winter of discounted & striking workers wanting pay rises of 23%. Corbyn & McDonnell's policies could have take  us back to those days.
  • C_A_F_C
    C_A_F_C Posts: 3,866
    I think with the results we've seen so far, the Tories majority will probably be bigger than the Exit poll suggested.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,623
    It will be funny to see Kier Starmer take over at the top for Labour as it was he who is mainly to blame for Labours woes. At the Labour Party Conference in 2018 he got them to add to their "manisfesto" a remain option & to go for a 2nd referendum. Not heard anything from.him all campaign
    ...I wonder why..?? 
  • Aaron Banks thinks Nuneaton is “up North”!
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,458
    It will be funny to see Kier Starmer take over at the top for Labour as it was he who is mainly to blame for Labours woes. At the Labour Party Conference in 2018 he got them to add to their "manisfesto" a remain option & to go for a 2nd referendum. Not heard anything from.him all campaign
    ...I wonder why..?? 
      'kin Sam Allardyce couldn't get them out of the shit pit they find themselves in!
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,845
    Aaron Banks thinks Nuneaton is “up North”!
    Isnt that where Karen Carpenter was from?
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    edited December 2019
    se9addick said:
    I think it’s more that Labour supporters tend to be younger and therefore more engaged with social media. Tory voters tend to be older and therefore engage with traditional media (newspapers etc) so you see more Tory representation in the printed press.

    These are generalisations but I think broadly accurate.
    This. A lot of Tory voters are aged 50+ & think a tweet is something a budgie does.

    Dont forget anyone aged 50+ remembers the Labour Government of the 1970's......The winter of discounted & striking workers wanting pay rises of 23%. Corbyn & McDonnell's policies could have take  us back to those days.

    Inflation was up to 25%. That's why.

    Remember the oil crisis, and shortages rip-roaring throughout the western world back in the 70s?



  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,254
    Been out all night with my mates at our Xmas drink get together.  I can’t stand the Tories, they represent everything I stand against from a moral and values perspective, think they will be bad news for the country, but imagine this is similar to when Blair swept to power in 97 and held on in 2001, a clear rejection of Corbyn’s in ideological viewpoints in the same way we saw the last of the Thatcher/Major era.  I think Corbyn means well deep down, but what’s he catastrophically failed to do is realise that anyone who doesn’t hold the same viewpoint as him isn’t racist, a bigot, right wing or is out for themselves, and as been too caught up with his own self righteous, moralistic pedal stall, which ultimately as come across as condescending and to some arrogant.

    I can’t reconcile with the Tories because so many of their flag bearers exhibit everything I hate and I associate them with the antithesis of what I stand for, but have to remember that’s not how to generalise people who voted Tory, however hard that may be.

    social media makes it worse, because it’s increases tribalism and partisanship, you dig in and become more defensive about your beliefs, but I just hope for some sort of togetherness moving forward and pragmatic thinking as a race, because it seems to me that the older I get the more divisive things are becoming and that’s not a world we should be striving to build

    here is a great example.  We’re all part of a club that is something you belong too because of family or your upbringing, as you certainly don’t seek to support us based on glory hunting or glamour, and I like to think I could sit down with any member of this forum and have a drink, despite our different views on race, religion or politics.  And ultimately, I think that’s important because the more engagement I have on Twitter I see some people I follow who are Charlton fans post some stuff that is the complete opposite to my political leanings and outlook, but as an individual I have to try and hold back from just deciding they aren’t as ethically good as me or their opinion is any less righteous.

    i hope that despite the result this country can rebuild and repair and understand that we all share the same planet and move forward as a race that do what we can to think of the collective rather than the individual
  • se9addick said:
    I think it’s more that Labour supporters tend to be younger and therefore more engaged with social media. Tory voters tend to be older and therefore engage with traditional media (newspapers etc) so you see more Tory representation in the printed press.

    These are generalisations but I think broadly accurate.
    This. A lot of Tory voters are aged 50+ & think a tweet is something a budgie does.

    Dont forget anyone aged 50+ remembers the Labour Government of the 1970's......The winter of discounted & striking workers wanting pay rises of 23%. Corbyn & McDonnell's policies could have take  us back to those days.
    Nonsense. You sound like a Tory press baron yourself golfie, scared of change.
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