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Alex Gilbey - Re-signed for MK Dons (p37)

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  • MattF said:
    how did he get injured in the first place? 
    He’s done something to his achilles and calf area.

    I made the mistake of Googling Alex Gilbey injury to find that out, had to go through a lot of search results
    thanks for looking. could take a good couple of months before we see him again.

    I presume he did it in training? 
  • We could take Cristiano Ronaldo who let's face it has been a bit of freak in terms of his fitness record and break him in 1 day.
  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797
    MattF said:
    how did he get injured in the first place? 
    He’s done something to his achilles and calf area.

    I made the mistake of Googling Alex Gilbey injury to find that out, had to go through a lot of search results
    thanks for looking. could take a good couple of months before we see him again.

    I presume he did it in training? 
    Think it was yeah
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,918
    Gibley out for another 5 weeks according to LB

    big blow
    He been hanging our with greenwood and foden ? 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    @Sage
    You seem to have an inside track on injuries, what have we done to him?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,001
    I can't help wondering if the training is over vigorous.
    Bowyer says they play no different to a proper match.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    how did he get injured in the first place? 
    When he signed to be under Charlton medical care!
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    I can't help wondering if the training is over vigorous.
    Bowyer says they play no different to a proper match.
    Pretty sure this is it. 

    I'm not sure it's the best approach as we appear to have the worst record for injuries. 
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,333
    I can't help wondering if the training is over vigorous.
    Bowyer says they play no different to a proper match.
    I'm wondering the same.....all for 100% effort in training matches if we have a big squad and 2 options for every position. LB after us worked at bigger clubs like Leeds and Newcastle who had deeper squads
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    shine166 said:
    Gibley out for another 5 weeks according to LB

    big blow
    He’s been hanging out the back of greenwood and foden.

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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    We could take Cristiano Ronaldo who let's face it has been a bit of freak in terms of his fitness record and break him in 1 day.
    No doubt Gunter will Break his wrist signing his contract. 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    The amount of injuries we get in training is ridiculous. Surely there are other areas to focus on in training than just intensity.

    He will have been out for 8/10 weeks.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Dazzler21 said:
    I can't help wondering if the training is over vigorous.
    Bowyer says they play no different to a proper match.
    Pretty sure this is it. 

    I'm not sure it's the best approach as we appear to have the worst record for injuries. 
    We also seem to have spells when the whole team looks knackered ten minutes after kick off. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    mendonca said:
    The amount of injuries we get in training is ridiculous. Surely there are other areas to focus on in training than just intensity.

    He will have been out for 8/10 weeks.
    The players should be managing their own fitness imo. Then the management/coaching team should be focusing on all other aspects. 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    mendonca said:
    The amount of injuries we get in training is ridiculous. Surely there are other areas to focus on in training than just intensity.

    He will have been out for 8/10 weeks.

    I can certainly understand why Bowyer likes training with full intensity.

    But if it's taking it's toll of players injured while training, it may need a different approach. 

    It could just be the luck of the draw though, sometimes a player just picks up a freak injury. It happens.


  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    Oggy Red said:
    mendonca said:
    The amount of injuries we get in training is ridiculous. Surely there are other areas to focus on in training than just intensity.

    He will have been out for 8/10 weeks.

    I can certainly understand why Bowyer likes training with full intensity.

    But if it's taking it's toll of players injured while training, it may need a different approach. 

    It could just be the luck of the draw though, sometimes a player just picks up a freak injury. It happens.


    Maybe once or twice you could shrug off as "freak injuries" but we seem to get a very high number of them. I can't help thinking that such high intensity training is at least one factor in that.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    edited October 2020
    Dazzler21 said:
    @Sage
    You seem to have an inside track on injuries, what have we done to him?
    Absolutely nothing.

    He was always going to be out until around November time. Have a look at my previous comments regarding Gilbey and you will see I’ve said end of October at the earliest throughout.

    There was no timescale announced on Gilbey, he has a calf and achilles injury, it’s not a quick fix and tendons are always tough injuries to manage and recover from.

    Bowyer knew the extent, it’s only now we have been told a more measured timescale. He most likely won’t be back until after the November international break.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Any idea how the injury was done? Sounds like a collision/slide tackle? Of course injuries happen but just interested.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    mendonca said:
    The amount of injuries we get in training is ridiculous. Surely there are other areas to focus on in training than just intensity.

    He will have been out for 8/10 weeks.
    Haven't Exeter already got a run of games out of Page? Surely that's a good as indication as any.
  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 11,790
    I agree. We do seem to pick up lots of injuries. Long term ones as well. 
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  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,513
    "absolutely don't need another midfielder"

    Luckily there's no such thing as bad form and injuries in football....
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    Croydon said:
    mendonca said:
    The amount of injuries we get in training is ridiculous. Surely there are other areas to focus on in training than just intensity.

    He will have been out for 8/10 weeks.
    Haven't Exeter already got a run of games out of Page? Surely that's a good as indication as any.
    Not at all. Page has been fit since July and sometimes the thought and fear of injury is more than the actual injury itself. He needed a new environment and sometimes a simple thing like that is what works.

    Again, nothing to do with the medical team and their competency.

    Accusing them of things without background or any real substance is wrong and completely undermines them as professionals. You wouldn’t have a banker for example come out and critique the performance of a surgeon, so why do football fans do the same with a medical team without any knowledge of a situation?
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    mendonca said:
    Any idea how the injury was done? Sounds like a collision/slide tackle? Of course injuries happen but just interested.
    No, unfortunately I don’t know how the injury occurred.
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,290
    Sage said:
    [snip]
    Accusing them of things without background or any real substance is wrong and completely undermines them as professionals. You wouldn’t have a banker for example come out and critique the performance of a surgeon, so why do football fans do the same with a medical team without any knowledge of a situation?
    You want to try being a teacher Sage, it's amazing the number of people who think they know what they're talking about because they went to school twenty years ago...
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    aliwibble said:
    Sage said:
    [snip]
    Accusing them of things without background or any real substance is wrong and completely undermines them as professionals. You wouldn’t have a banker for example come out and critique the performance of a surgeon, so why do football fans do the same with a medical team without any knowledge of a situation?
    You want to try being a teacher Sage, it's amazing the number of people who think they know what they're talking about because they went to school twenty years ago...
    Never thought of being a teacher before. Are you a teacher or was it a passing comment?

    I know I may come across a certain way and I don’t mean to sound in a rude way, but I am passionate about these things regarding medical, injuries, sports science etc. I done a degree in it recently and unfortunately not been able to get into the professional game, it’s so competitive. But it does frustrate me when others, whoever it is, places blame at the door of people who have done no wrong. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    "absolutely don't need another midfielder"

    Luckily there's no such thing as bad form and injuries in football....
    What a shame we only have 9 other midfielders
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    @Sage, nobody has had a personal dig at anybody in the CAFC medical team. Half the fun of being a sports fan is being able to collate facts and build a personal opinion of a situation (as long as no harm is intended).

    In fact, you've done so yourself :-)


    You've concluded that Page "needed a new environment and sometimes a simple thing like that is what works." Just imagine in an upcoming interview, if he mentions he is now doing things differently and sought advice from a physio there about personalised training plans different to those he's embarked upon previously. 
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,513
    edited October 2020
    Leuth said:
    "absolutely don't need another midfielder"

    Luckily there's no such thing as bad form and injuries in football....
    What a shame we only have 9 other midfielders

    Yeah I've made my point many many times already, you obviously just dont want to see it so wont waste my time making it again.
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,274
    edited October 2020
    Sage said:
    Croydon said:
    mendonca said:
    The amount of injuries we get in training is ridiculous. Surely there are other areas to focus on in training than just intensity.

    He will have been out for 8/10 weeks.
    Haven't Exeter already got a run of games out of Page? Surely that's a good as indication as any.
    Not at all. Page has been fit since July and sometimes the thought and fear of injury is more than the actual injury itself. He needed a new environment and sometimes a simple thing like that is what works.

    Again, nothing to do with the medical team and their competency.

    Accusing them of things without background or any real substance is wrong and completely undermines them as professionals. You wouldn’t have a banker for example come out and critique the performance of a surgeon, so why do football fans do the same with a medical team without any knowledge of a situation?
    But footballers injuries are way more public than a surgeons record.  We must have had the worst injury record in the divisions we have played in for at least two years now hence people are questioning medical staff/training regime.  If a surgeon had the worst track record as a surgeon for 2 years running I would not let them anywhere near me. (and I am a banker).
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    Leuth said:
    "absolutely don't need another midfielder"

    Luckily there's no such thing as bad form and injuries in football....
    What a shame we only have 9 other midfielders

    Yeah I've made my point many many times already, you obviously just dont want to see it so wont waste my time making it again.
    You would maybe have a sliver of a point if there wasn't a wage cap. But there's a wage cap.