Shocking as once again we lose points from a winning position. This team is set up wrongly time and time again. One action points to poor management as its clear that Maartson needs a rest as this us shown that after we went behind 6 out of 7 of his throw ins went to a Peterborough head. It's not just to single him out as clearly we was not helped by 2 errors but all over the pitch we make simple ....yes simple errors. These players are put out to play and set up by Bowyer and it's not working. We can all point to injuries and suspension but changes to the team are now taking place during the game that are having an impact.
We lost this game to poor game management and selection of players.
The squad we have is the squad we have now and I want Bows to succeed but bring in some tactical help
We make a defensive error, the opposition scores. Whenever the opposition makes a defensive error we trip over our own feet. Getting a bit wearing now.
So in this thread we have people moaning about Pearce playing when all the moaning before was about players being played in the wrong positions. There’s people moaning about Gunter existing at all even though he would have been the one to play there instead of Pearce. We have people moaning about bringing two strikers on when we’re winning when previous moaning was about being too defensive too early on. We have people moaning that the manager is shit because experienced players made individual errors to gift goals. There’s weeping about the league being rubbish, the players being rubbish, the football being rubbish. Have we always had this much wailing when we lose a match or hit bad form or have ‘fans’ just got worse?
You're right, but it's just because everyone's sitting at home with nothing else to do, and many people are just generally fed up.
In my opinion Bowyer had set the team up fine in the matches against Rovers and Peterborough.
In several matches before that he didn't. Smyth at RWB and Matthews at LB just two strange decisions.
Basic error for Peterborough's first goal. One Centre back go for the ball while the other drops off and goes to mark the other attacker. You learn that as soon as you start playing 11 a side on the bigger pitches at 10/11 years old.
The Route one long ball can still be dangerous especially in League 1 and below.
First, I didn't think the Gunter chance was clear cut. No pace on the ball, it looped quite high and there were 3 defenders in the way. The one the Bristol Rovers player missed on Saturday was easier. Bowyer didn't mention it in his long VP interview as well.
0-0 would have been a fair result, as while both teams battled hard, there was little creativity out there. They gave us a goal with a needless foul for the penalty, then we give them a goal with another in our showreel of terrible defensive errors. Bizarre how 2 experienced CBs can make such basic mistakes of letting the first ball bounce and then both going for the second ball, when both are normally good communicators, especially Pearce. Then the second goal is the sort of incisive breakaway goal that we seem to have forgotten how to score.
The subs didn't help matters either; while Schwartz might be a fox in the box, Washington contributed a lot today outside the box with his movement and energy. Both Washington and Bogle made life harder for the Posh defence than Chuks and Schwartz did. Similarly the 3 midfield subs didn't improve our midfield
As I said on the matchday thread, it's frustrating that when we have a 1 goal lead in added time, it always feels like we're hanging on, whereas when we're 1 goal behind, we don't look threatening at all. 5 minutes of added time, and I'm not sure their keeper touched the ball.
Without the previous shysters in charge, we'd have bought Clarke-Harris in January. If not then, the summer just gone.
He plays for our opponent tonight and sets up two goals.
People pretending that the likes of Omar Bogle (sorry Omar) were Bowyer's top choices to fill out a desperately fragile squad are kidding themselves.
But we didn't loose that game because Bogle played for us and Clarke-Harris for them.
Our summer recruitment was done under far from ideal circumstances but to claim we ended up with "the dregs" is wrong. If they were so unwanted by other clubs why the hell are we paying them so much money?
He’s been with us a few years and I’ve never been completely sold on him. Very average mid table League One level centre back.
I think he was a decent L1 centre back, Championship was probably his ceiling (and maybe not even that). He’s now a past it L1 centre back, it’s brutal to say that but it’s true. Been a good servant and deserves respect but we need to bring in another CB urgently.
Where was the shape in the 2nd half? Looked like Bowyer sent subs out without any instructions for them or the rest of the team on the pitch.
The rest of league are going pull away soon and we spend the rest of the season wondering if we are touching distance of 6th.
But its ok, the bowyer in brigade have their win at Bristol Rovers. Good for them.
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Only thing they can come back at you with mate coz they know you’re right.
Touched a nerve fella?
Not at all but yours were touched when you gallantly jumped your poor mates defence after someone...wait for it...dared question his opinion.....the cheek of some people.
Poor old Bows. I have to say,I watched the pre match interview and he already had the look of a beaten man.
Something still ain't right.
What ain't right is: We haven't got the two CB who helped us achieve 7 clean sheets and Bowyer, like me and I assume others didn't think we would stop them scoring at least one goal. What was disappointing is, the Posh didn't have a sniff of a goal 1st half.
Another two gifts cost us.
Who is Lee digging out with his remark we didn't move quick enough to bring someone in ?
Lee is all inclusive when looking for targets. Thomas Sandgaard or Steve Gallen ?
One massive highlight tonight. My lad on Valley Pass at half time, and even got a shout out from Scott Minto and Curbs... Will his prediction of playing for Charlton and winning the PL and FA Cup 5 years running come true? One thing I will say is that 8 years old he would have charged at that dropping ball that Pearce and Oshi both backed away from (he would have missed it mind!).
Result was gutting, players gave their all, a couple of dreadful mistakes. I have always enjoyed Pearce's attitude to the game and he is a 100% man but this season sadly seems one too long.
Autos seem out of reach and play offs are drifting away if we don't get a run together sharpish.
I have been critical of Bows of late but he spoke well after the game I thought and had the team set up fine. I wish he would not make so many subs because it takes all imputus out of our game but that is not why we lost tonight.
Poor old Bows. I have to say,I watched the pre match interview and he already had the look of a beaten man.
Something still ain't right.
What ain't right is: We haven't got the two CB who helped us achieve 7 clean sheets and Bowyer, like me and I assume others didn't think we would stop them scoring at least one goal. What was disappointing is, the Posh didn't have a sniff of a goal 1st half.
Another two gifts cost us.
Who is Lee digging out with his remark we didn't move quick enough to bring someone in ?
Poor old Bows. I have to say,I watched the pre match interview and he already had the look of a beaten man.
Something still ain't right.
What ain't right is: We haven't got the two CB who helped us achieve 7 clean sheets and Bowyer, like me and I assume others didn't think we would stop them scoring at least one goal. What was disappointing is, the Posh didn't have a sniff of a goal 1st half.
Another two gifts cost us.
Who is Lee digging out with his remark we didn't move quick enough to bring someone in ?
Right I get that we would be better with the "two center halves", I don't think anyone doubts that.
But you do realise that neither of them have ever played more than 20 games in a season before?
You would also expect Pearce and Oshilaja to be half decent cover.
You can't keep banging on that those two are injured and expect everyone to just shrug their shoulders and say "that's OK then"?
We have dropped SOME points, like one today, that is a direct result of their absence but not ALL the points we have dropped since the international break.
Poor old Bows. I have to say,I watched the pre match interview and he already had the look of a beaten man.
Something still ain't right.
What ain't right is: We haven't got the two CB who helped us achieve 7 clean sheets and Bowyer, like me and I assume others didn't think we would stop them scoring at least one goal. What was disappointing is, the Posh didn't have a sniff of a goal 1st half.
Another two gifts cost us.
Who is Lee digging out with his remark we didn't move quick enough to bring someone in ?
Why you do think he is digging anyone out? Who is he digging out? I assume he was talking about our two centre halves who failed to communicate properly and a slip not being good enough. I think Bows is admitting the management team were not quick enough or vocal enough in identifying who we need. I don’t think digging out is an appropriate term. He has identified an area that needs improvement. I agree with him.
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We lost this game to poor game management and selection of players.
The squad we have is the squad we have now and I want Bows to succeed but bring in some tactical help
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A bit concerning them comments.
In several matches before that he didn't.
Smyth at RWB and Matthews at LB just two strange decisions.
Basic error for Peterborough's first goal.
One Centre back go for the ball while the other drops off and goes to mark the other attacker. You learn that as soon as you start playing 11 a side on the bigger pitches at 10/11 years old.
The Route one long ball can still be dangerous especially in League 1 and below.
First, I didn't think the Gunter chance was clear cut. No pace on the ball, it looped quite high and there were 3 defenders in the way. The one the Bristol Rovers player missed on Saturday was easier. Bowyer didn't mention it in his long VP interview as well.
0-0 would have been a fair result, as while both teams battled hard, there was little creativity out there. They gave us a goal with a needless foul for the penalty, then we give them a goal with another in our showreel of terrible defensive errors. Bizarre how 2 experienced CBs can make such basic mistakes of letting the first ball bounce and then both going for the second ball, when both are normally good communicators, especially Pearce. Then the second goal is the sort of incisive breakaway goal that we seem to have forgotten how to score.
The subs didn't help matters either; while Schwartz might be a fox in the box, Washington contributed a lot today outside the box with his movement and energy. Both Washington and Bogle made life harder for the Posh defence than Chuks and Schwartz did. Similarly the 3 midfield subs didn't improve our midfield
As I said on the matchday thread, it's frustrating that when we have a 1 goal lead in added time, it always feels like we're hanging on, whereas when we're 1 goal behind, we don't look threatening at all. 5 minutes of added time, and I'm not sure their keeper touched the ball.
He’s been with us a few years and I’ve never been completely sold on him. Very average mid table League One level centre back.
We can't defend, so we need to get goals.
It's Groundhog Day every game.
Start Chucks and Johnnie - get the game won, then tinker if you must.
But Bowyer has put that out there. Been interesting to find out more.
Our summer recruitment was done under far from ideal circumstances but to claim we ended up with "the dregs" is wrong. If they were so unwanted by other clubs why the hell are we paying them so much money?
Something still ain't right.
What ain't right is:
We haven't got the two CB who helped us achieve 7 clean sheets and Bowyer, like me and I assume others didn't think we would stop them scoring at least one goal.
What was disappointing is, the Posh didn't have a sniff of a goal 1st half.
Another two gifts cost us.
Who is Lee digging out with his remark we didn't move quick enough to bring someone in ?
Lee is all inclusive when looking for targets.
Thomas Sandgaard or Steve Gallen ?
This won't end well.
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12192973/peterborough-2-1-charlton
Result was gutting, players gave their all, a couple of dreadful mistakes. I have always enjoyed Pearce's attitude to the game and he is a 100% man but this season sadly seems one too long.
Autos seem out of reach and play offs are drifting away if we don't get a run together sharpish.
I have been critical of Bows of late but he spoke well after the game I thought and had the team set up fine. I wish he would not make so many subs because it takes all imputus out of our game but that is not why we lost tonight.
But you do realise that neither of them have ever played more than 20 games in a season before?
You would also expect Pearce and Oshilaja to be half decent cover.
You can't keep banging on that those two are injured and expect everyone to just shrug their shoulders and say "that's OK then"?
We have dropped SOME points, like one today, that is a direct result of their absence but not ALL the points we have dropped since the international break.
I think Bows is admitting the management team were not quick enough or vocal enough in identifying who we need.
I don’t think digging out is an appropriate term.
He has identified an area that needs improvement. I agree with him.