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Bowyer's got to go (ed. p23 CAFCOfficial twitter confirm he's gone)
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In the short term if the dressing room is happy, where it was previously unhappy, you can get a positive reaction.2
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I wonder how TS will handle this? A lot may depend of how long this has been brewing and what has been said. Bow must know if he has another job secured and if so, how long it has been discussed.1
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I don't wish him ill, I give him thanks for Wembley, but what happens next in his career is of no interest to me, all I care about is Charlton.seth plum said:Wow.
Just getting this news.
Whatever else Bowyer leaves with my very best wishes, my thanks, and my hope he enjoys success in the future.2 -
It is what it is.4
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We could do worse.cafcpolo said:
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I have to say Im gutted, if true, he has gone. I was one of the people hoping he would get a full summer to get his squad together, but if he's gone then so be it. Everyone thats been calling for his head must be happy today, but you need to bear in mind that we have no idea who's going to be coming in. Sometimes it might be better the devil you know..........but only time will tell and I hope the new person, whoever it is, will be given time....by US the fans.
Thanks Lee, for the great day out a Wembley and for sticking by us when we looked as though we were going under completely. Good luck wherever you go or in whatever you do.20 -
like the Four TopsSheedyCAFC said:Curbs, Euell, JJ & Brown on the sidelines as a managerial four-piece.0 -
Sandgaard is coming over as manager on a five year deal. You heard it here first (and won’t hear it ever again).2
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We don't need Brownie as manager, we need him as Defensive Coach!Dazzler21 said:
Many people can talk a big game, there is a reason Brown hasn't taken up management.Billericaydickie said:
No JJ is part of the problem.ross1 said:Curbs in with JJ as No. 2
Throughout the past year I don’t think that I have had once heard JJ speak up and voice a comment about the problems.
If it was Curbs as a temporary manager I would prefer Steve Brown to be number 2.
Listening to him when he commentates he speaks so much sense.
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I’m hearing it’s Harald Bluetooth with Hans Christian Anderson as no2 until the end of the season.1
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Very grateful for Lee’s undoubted hard work and an enjoyable play off winning season. Feel for him last season and until Thomas arrived. However, relieved to see that change is upon us. We needed fresh air, a new outlook, an opportunity for some expressive football. Let’s now see who Thomas pulls out of the bag?2
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Thankfully some brave people didn’t share your perspective and did boot their “boss” out.Oggy Red said:
Bowyer booting Southall out ....? Most people understand that a manager can't boot out his CEO shareholder director.se9addick said:
Oh come on, there are other people very worthy of the “if it wasn’t for him/her...” title - Bowyer isn’t one of them. Bowyer wasn’t exactly the one who booted Southall out of the Valley 12 months ago, rather he was happy to work for the cavalcade of weirdos that have “owned” our club in recent times and now we’ve got a decent owner he’s walked out on him within six months.CharltontillidieCOYR said:
LOL you have a very short memory! im making a big thing cause it was a big thing at the time and still very important ! and had it not been for him and a few of the other lot around the club helping out you and i wouldnt even have a team to support and worry about right nowse9addick said:
I don’t think today, the day that he apparently quits to join another team, is the day to make a big thing about Bowyer’s loyalty and sticking with us through thick and thin!CharltontillidieCOYR said:
Are you having a laughDebaser said:
You realise he resigned and has not been sacked yeah? Not exactly sticking with us is he?CharltontillidieCOYR said:Gutted ! We owe that man alot ! He stuck with us in our darkest hours and had we given him time i still think he could have turned it around
but nowdays with huge pressure on instant success and fanbases full of toxic fans like ours that cant wait to be negative no manager is ever given time
all the best to the man and thanks for memorys that will last forever
everything he put up with over the last few years and still brought success then the esi mess and nearly getting dragged under by the scum of elliott farnell and co
he even made sure he was paid last / late before all club employees and stood with us when he could and maybe should have said no thats it iv had enough
im sure hes had feedback or got wind from staff close to him / sandgaard or players about the online toxic talk of fans and feels a fresh start at a club hes loved and will be appreciated is very appealing right now
hes tried his best and done more than most would have and i appreciate it and wish him all the best and success in the future
The employment world doesn't work like that, does it?
Someone also posted earlier that Jackson should have spoken up and criticised Bowyer.
Jacko is Assistant to the manager. To publicly criticise and show disloyalty to your boss is the fast route to your P45 and dismissal.
That's the real world.0 -
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It's never boring being a Charlton fan, is it.Don't know what to think about Bowyer going.
Brought us some great times but as @UEAAddick has said he's seemed burnt out by all the crap he's taken over the last 2 seasons and results have been poor. But leaving now and the way he seems to have done it seems oddI just hope history isn't re-written to say Bowyer was a terrible manager or he got lucky. He did very well when he took over, play-offs twice, Wembley, great start to last season, almost kept us up despite lowest budget, ESI nonsense, losing Taylor, Leko and Gallagher, all the injuries etc
But for whatever reason it's gone sour so we move on.
I wish Lee good luck but am a Charlton Athletic fan and that's what I care about. Up the Addicks49 -
I'd be fine with anyone who doesn't start Pratley & Watson8
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Spot on.Callumcafc said:
Please give it up - neither of them are coming to a team that sit outside the L1 playoffs. Selling the vision is nonsense. Do you think Charlton are the only club in the EFL with Premier League ambitions?LargeAddick said:
he's non-league at the moment. Why not aim high? If TS can sell him or Howe the vision they might be up for a challenge, Wilder more so than Howe imo.jacob_CAFC said:
Why would he drop 2 leagues?AddicksAddict said:It may have been said already but surely we go for Chris Wilder. I then Sheffield Utd were daft to get rid of him.
Take a look at the list of candidates for the Pompey job because that’s exactly the same list we’ll be looking at, along with a few others with Charlton connections.
Or a few with TS/Ged Roddy connections. But it's definitely the level we're looking at.
Was surprised to see Hermann on Pompey's list then remembered he was a former player there too (not saying I'd choose him for us!).0 -
Given that we have a game tomorrow, I think JJ will probably have that game at least. You see it when a new manager is appointed, if it is close to a game, they sit in the stands and don't get involved.0
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Rochdale to escape again?Dazzler21 said:
It's not too late. We're 2 pts behind this:golfaddick said:
so we've been crap for months & wouldn't do the honourable thing and resign.............but as soon as a job comes along that he has a chance of getting he jumps ship even before that Club have announced they've sacked their existing manager.Gravesend_Addick said:My take & it's purely guesswork.
Bowyer was told some time ago we had to make the playoffs or he would be gone at the end of the season.
Birmingham have come in & he's jumped
Thanks Lee for nothing. If he gone a month or so ago we might have had a sniff of the play offs, but too late now.
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Even if Pratley and Watson were our caretaker managers, they wouldn’t pick themselves.Chunes said:I'd be fine with anyone who doesn't start Pratley & Watson14 -
This really isn’t any criticism of JJ or Jason but apart from a caretaker role I will be devastated if either end up as our permanent appointment. Our owner says he wants a stable Premier League club flirting with European football. This is the launchpad season for TS. He has a golden opportunity to get someone in who has a proven track record. Yes it might cost and as always there are no guarantees but we really do need to go for the very best we can achieve and not think small. Either of JJ and JE would be thinking very small and show no ambition whatsoever.3
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They looked good against Lincoln, who admittedly are starting to struggle just a bitAddicksAddict said:
Rochdale to escape again?Dazzler21 said:
It's not too late. We're 2 pts behind this:golfaddick said:
so we've been crap for months & wouldn't do the honourable thing and resign.............but as soon as a job comes along that he has a chance of getting he jumps ship even before that Club have announced they've sacked their existing manager.Gravesend_Addick said:My take & it's purely guesswork.
Bowyer was told some time ago we had to make the playoffs or he would be gone at the end of the season.
Birmingham have come in & he's jumped
Thanks Lee for nothing. If he gone a month or so ago we might have had a sniff of the play offs, but too late now.1 -
I know it’s naivety, but always surprised how quick some of these managerial appointments are made, Birmingham manager only sacked yesterday. Obviously, this is if he goes Birmingham today.0
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And he hasn't been particularly good since he left. Maybe that promotion season and the year after was just right place, right time for him and us. He'll be forever a hero if he never comes back to sully those memories.Dazzler21 said:
Why not out of interest?RonnieMoore said:
No thanks .....MrLargo said:Let him finish what he started......
Powell was more loyal to the club than Bowyer, played more times for us than Bowyer and of course was more successful managing us than Bowyer too.2 -
Mark Bowen?North Lower Neil said:
Spot on.Callumcafc said:
Please give it up - neither of them are coming to a team that sit outside the L1 playoffs. Selling the vision is nonsense. Do you think Charlton are the only club in the EFL with Premier League ambitions?LargeAddick said:
he's non-league at the moment. Why not aim high? If TS can sell him or Howe the vision they might be up for a challenge, Wilder more so than Howe imo.jacob_CAFC said:
Why would he drop 2 leagues?AddicksAddict said:It may have been said already but surely we go for Chris Wilder. I then Sheffield Utd were daft to get rid of him.
Take a look at the list of candidates for the Pompey job because that’s exactly the same list we’ll be looking at, along with a few others with Charlton connections.
Or a few with TS/Ged Roddy connections. But it's definitely the level we're looking at.
Was surprised to see Hermann on Pompey's list then remembered he was a former player there too (not saying I'd choose him for us!).
I’m gutted but I’d be happy with him.2 -
Whoever gets us promoted from League One is highly unlikely to still be the right man to get us into Europe. The gap is way too big.ShootersHillGuru said:This really isn’t any criticism of JJ or Jason but apart from a caretaker role I will be devastated if either end up as our permanent appointment. Our owner says he wants a stable Premier League club flirting with European football. This is the launchpad season for TS. He has a golden opportunity to get someone in who has a proven track record. Yes it might cost and as always there are no guarantees but we really do need to go for the very best we can achieve and not think small. Either of JJ and JE would be thinking very small and show no ambition whatsoever.
If we reach TS’s long term ambitions, then it’s unlikely to be done with a single manager.5 -
I always think that most times, plans are made for replacements before the incumbent gets the chop or commits hari karistoneroses19 said:I know it’s naivety, but always surprised how quick some of these managerial appointments are made, Birmingham manager only sacked yesterday. Obviously, this is if he goes Birmingham today.0 -
Bowyer was only given the role on a caretaker basis to begin with. Of course if you do amazing, you make a case for yourself, whereas if you don't you don't. If JJ or Euell got us promoted, we would want them to be given the role permanently. Massive if of course, but who knows?ShootersHillGuru said:This really isn’t any criticism of JJ or Jason but apart from a caretaker role I will be devastated if either end up as our permanent appointment. Our owner says he wants a stable Premier League club flirting with European football. This is the launchpad season for TS. He has a golden opportunity to get someone in who has a proven track record. Yes it might cost and as always there are no guarantees but we really do need to go for the very best we can achieve and not think small. Either of JJ and JE would be thinking very small and show no ambition whatsoever.0 -
They did last season. About the only point they picked up after the re-start was against us. And that carried into this season.JohnnyJoeyDeeDee said:Birmingham have the worst home record in the division😉1 -
occasionally @Henry Irving talks senseHenry Irving said:WIOTOS
It's never boring being a Charlton fan, is it.Don't know what to think about Bowyer going.
Brought us some great times but as @UEAAddick has said he's seemed burnt out by all the crap he's taken over the last 2 seasons and results have been poor. But leaving now and the way he seems to have done it seems oddI just hope history isn't re-written to say Bowyer was a terrible manager or he got lucky. He did very well when he took over, play-offs twice, Wembley, great start to last season, almost kept us up despite lowest budget, ESI nonsense, losing Taylor, Leko and Gallagher, all the injuries etc
But for whatever reason it's gone sour so we move on.
I wish Lee good luck but am a Charlton Athletic fan and that's what I care about. Up the Addicks
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Because that’s always worked wellricky_otto said:Personally I would like somebody with no previous affiliation with the club.1
