I can't be the only one who is amazed by the amount of Chris Wilder suggestions, as if it would be in any way remotely possible?
Why, if money is the only stumbling block TS has plenty to throw around. Had Wilder stayed at Sheff Utd (they will come good) he would have been in the Championship so it is only dropping down one league.
Sell him a vision, control on transfers, good owner. What's not to like.
I don't see much evidence of TS "throwing money around" and I have no problem with that. I would imagine Wilder would be looking for vastly more money than Bowyer was on. I think the mistake would be Jackson. Appoint Jackson I don't see a huge uptick in performance. Happy to be proved wrong of course.
I’d be happy with most of the names bandied around but side with those looking to TS to show evidence of his long term plan and ambition.
I’m not knocking TS in any way - I just think he now has a chance to top all the great stuff he’s done in the past few months with an exciting announcement. He does love the limelight and the news of his arrival this weekend smacks of more than a guy coming over to do some interviews.
The good natured appearance of LB’s departure bears the hallmark of someone managing the long term business. LB has a (currently) higher placed opportunity, TS has the chance to make a big change. No fall out - no pay out (at least publically).
As ever I’m not in the know but this win-win does seem to have been impeccably handled. I only hope the next appointment has a chance to turn things round for the remainder of this season as I’d much rather see a scramble to put together a Championship side than a League 1 promotion side.
I can't be the only one who is amazed by the amount of Chris Wilder suggestions, as if it would be in any way remotely possible?
Why, if money is the only stumbling block TS has plenty to throw around. Had Wilder stayed at Sheff Utd (they will come good) he would have been in the Championship so it is only dropping down one league.
Sell him a vision, control on transfers, good owner. What's not to like.
I don't see much evidence of TS "throwing money around" and I have no problem with that. I would imagine Wilder would be looking for vastly more money than Bowyer was on. I think the mistake would be Jackson. Appoint Jackson I don't see a huge uptick in performance. Happy to be proved wrong of course.
He's already spent £500k on Schwartz and Jaiyesimi
Not great sums in the game now, but equally reckon a lot of clubs at this level and below would love that sort of budget to spend on players
Ideal choice is Wilder, by far and away as well. Extremely good win percentage in the championship to league 2, a strong character, gets his team's playing and I think he will 'understand' our club. Wilder isn't a typical ego maniac who thinks he's above jobs and was a world class player etc, hard worker who grafted his way up the pyramid. He will understand our situation. If he doesn't have any offers and we offer the right money and terms etc then I don't see what's so crazy about it, seen wilder things..
Medium content choice is the Cowleys out of everyone mentioned. I have critiqued their style previously but as a few posters said it is unlikely our next manager will be here for when we want to reach the top flight. They have teams that are hard to beat, two or 3 promotions under their belt? And aren't just looking for a pay off, ambitious management team. Happy to have a pair like that who can get us up and stabilise us, making us a more attractive club in the short term
Then finally the Charlton link. Sorry but it's a no from me for JJ or Euell. If we want to get somewhere I don't want to end up with the easy option, I expect us to have a bit of a bounce now cause of JJ but honeymoon periods are what they are. If JJ coached a lower league team and did well then yeah maybe in the future, not now. Absolutely no to Powell, like Bowyer it was the right club at the right time, I don't see it working if he comes back. Curbs is the only one where I think there's a chance he could get it working. If I was Thomas I would have phoned Curbs and asked him if he fancied another go to see how he sees the season out to see if a) he still has it and b) still wants it. Goes wrong he goes back to valley pass if it goes right give him the job.
Nothing against Jacko, Euell or Powell but I just don't see it ending well with any of them and would rather avoid another well thought of player be tarnished a bit
On Beale (who impresses me) I contemplate Les Reed who was/is a very good coach but not much of a manager. We shall see how everything turns out.
Yeah its the only thing I dont like about an unproven Manager from the U23s somewhere
They're going to be great at coaching the players
Yet how good are they at identifying new signings that'll strengthen us, of course they'd be working with Steve Gallen, or if he left his successor (if we kept that model), but like Bowyer they'd still have a say on who comes in
I agree but the last two managers who got us out of this league had no management experience.
I don't get this sentiment of it having to be someone with no connection to us. Why? All the best periods we have had were when a Charlton man was in charge. I don't think it HAS to be a Charlton man but I personally like that we do it our way and don't hire in mercenary managers
Our very best period was with a man with no Charlton connection, who virtually spoke a foreign language.
Michael Beale fits the bill for me, but so do several others. [Edit: ok, Charlton connection is a bonus ;-)]
I know Curbs has a Welsh middle name but calling him foreign is a bit of a stretch.
I don’t think a single person mentioned Beale until those tweets last night and now suddenly most wants to give it to him.. based on what exactly?
Half of the reason for coming on CL is to to learn stuff. And I and many others have learned about Beale, and have really liked what we’ve heard. It would be a pretty dull thread if new names weren’t thrown into the mix. In this case by Beale himself.
My preference would be either Wilder or Howe, both unlikely, but given some financial clout, suspect both would have the confidence that they could build successfully with Charlton over a shortish timeframe. Have little doubt in Thomas’ capability to sell the dream.
Realistically, Cowley or Bowen could get it.
I hope JJ stays on as coach, but in some respects hold him in such high regard, I wouldn’t want his reputation with the fans damaged if he were not to succeed with us as manager. Would rather him learn elsewhere in time then manage us successfully down the line.
I can't be the only one who is amazed by the amount of Chris Wilder suggestions, as if it would be in any way remotely possible?
Why, if money is the only stumbling block TS has plenty to throw around. Had Wilder stayed at Sheff Utd (they will come good) he would have been in the Championship so it is only dropping down one league.
Sell him a vision, control on transfers, good owner. What's not to like.
I don't see much evidence of TS "throwing money around" and I have no problem with that. I would imagine Wilder would be looking for vastly more money than Bowyer was on. I think the mistake would be Jackson. Appoint Jackson I don't see a huge uptick in performance. Happy to be proved wrong of course.
He's already spent £500k on Schwartz and Jaiyesimi
Not great sums in the game now, but equally reckon a lot of clubs at this level and below would love that sort of budget to spend on players
- Attacking football - A creative midfield - Develop players for us, not just for their careers - Use the academy, with a steady flow of talent coming through
Come on lads you all wanted Bowyer out surely you had thought that through and decided who could take on the job after?
Genuine question. Why do you post? You seem to hate everyone on here.
I just find the whole situation rather funny. I don’t hate everyone, just the armchair football managers/owners
Are you not annoyed at the lack of loyalty of Bowyer walking out on us then ?
you cant have it both ways and criticise those who thought Bowyer should be replaced as showing no loyalty and then not criticise Bowyer for walking out on us.
- Attacking football - A creative midfield - Develop players for us, not just for their careers - Use the academy, with a steady flow of talent coming through
This comment was interesting as it implies he was more impressed with the team we had BEFORE the January window
“As you know already we are a team who play attacking football and I’d like to get even more emphasis on a very creative midfield that can create chances – I think we had that in the fall,”
- Attacking football - A creative midfield - Develop players for us, not just for their careers - Use the academy, with a steady flow of talent coming through
This comment was interesting as it implies he was more impressed with the team we had BEFORE the January window
“As you know already we are a team who play attacking football and I’d like to get even more emphasis on a very creative midfield that can create chances – I think we had that in the fall,”
Yep Autumn/Fall was mid-September to mid-December, I think he was simply acknowledging we looked better in Autumn.
Autumn/Fall Period: Played 18, W9, D5, L4. (32pts 1.77 PPG)
GW
Date
Team
H/A
Result
1
12/09
Crewe
A
3
2
19/09
Doncaster
H
0
3
27/09
Lincoln
A
0
4
03/10
Sunderland
H
1
6
17/10
Wigan
H
3
7
20/10
Blackpool
A
3
8
24/10
Northampton
A
3
9
27/10
Oxford
H
3
10
31/10
Portsmouth
A
3
11
03/11
Fleetwood
H
3
13
21/11
Gillingham
A
1
14
24/11
Burton
A
0
5
28/11
Ipswich
A
3
15
02/12
MK Dons
H
0
16
05/12
Shrewsbury
A
1
17
12/12
AFC Wimbledon
H
3
19
19/12
Swindon
A
1
20
26/12
Plymouth
H
1
Since Autumn/Fall P17, W5, D5, L7 (20pts 1.17 PPG)
22
02/01
Hull
A
0
23
08/01
Accrington
H
0
12
12/01
Rochdale
H
1
24
16/01
Bristol R
A
3
21
19/01
Peterborough
A
0
25
23/01
Swindon
H
1
26
26/01
MK Dons
A
3
27
02/02
Portsmouth
H
0
28
06/02
Rochdale
A
3
29
13/02
Gillingham
H
0
30
20/02
Fleetwood
A
1
31
23/02
Burton
H
0
32
27/02
Blackpool
H
0
33
02/03
Wigan
A
3
34
06/03
Oxford
A
1
35
09/03
Northampton
H
3
36
13/03
Shrewsbury
H
1
If a new manager gets 9-10 games at least we can know they will have a good idea of who/what they want/need to improve us.
- Attacking football - A creative midfield - Develop players for us, not just for their careers - Use the academy, with a steady flow of talent coming through
This comment was interesting as it implies he was more impressed with the team we had BEFORE the January window
“As you know already we are a team who play attacking football and I’d like to get even more emphasis on a very creative midfield that can create chances – I think we had that in the fall,”
Yup, think that TS will have been secretly pleased that LB resigned and that he may even get compo from Birmingham rather than having to pay up his contract if he wanted to sack LB.
The next appointment will be interesting if he truly wants to develop from the Academy, but is there enough talent there to get us out of this division or even further just in the next couple of years?
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Not great sums in the game now, but equally reckon a lot of clubs at this level and below would love that sort of budget to spend on players
Ideal choice is Wilder, by far and away as well. Extremely good win percentage in the championship to league 2, a strong character, gets his team's playing and I think he will 'understand' our club. Wilder isn't a typical ego maniac who thinks he's above jobs and was a world class player etc, hard worker who grafted his way up the pyramid. He will understand our situation. If he doesn't have any offers and we offer the right money and terms etc then I don't see what's so crazy about it, seen wilder things..
Medium content choice is the Cowleys out of everyone mentioned. I have critiqued their style previously but as a few posters said it is unlikely our next manager will be here for when we want to reach the top flight. They have teams that are hard to beat, two or 3 promotions under their belt? And aren't just looking for a pay off, ambitious management team. Happy to have a pair like that who can get us up and stabilise us, making us a more attractive club in the short term
Then finally the Charlton link. Sorry but it's a no from me for JJ or Euell. If we want to get somewhere I don't want to end up with the easy option, I expect us to have a bit of a bounce now cause of JJ but honeymoon periods are what they are. If JJ coached a lower league team and did well then yeah maybe in the future, not now. Absolutely no to Powell, like Bowyer it was the right club at the right time, I don't see it working if he comes back. Curbs is the only one where I think there's a chance he could get it working. If I was Thomas I would have phoned Curbs and asked him if he fancied another go to see how he sees the season out to see if a) he still has it and b) still wants it. Goes wrong he goes back to valley pass if it goes right give him the job.
Nothing against Jacko, Euell or Powell but I just don't see it ending well with any of them and would rather avoid another well thought of player be tarnished a bit
Your first opinion must remain and it's unacceptable to change it.
Realistically, Cowley or Bowen could get it.
you cant have it both ways and criticise those who thought Bowyer should be replaced as showing no loyalty and then not criticise Bowyer for walking out on us.
“As you know already we are a team who play attacking football and I’d like to get even more emphasis on a very creative midfield that can create chances – I think we had that in the fall,”
some out of work managers I really don't want us to go anywhere near are Monk, Harris or Lennon
Autumn/Fall Period:
Played 18, W9, D5, L4. (32pts 1.77 PPG)
Since Autumn/Fall
P17, W5, D5, L7 (20pts 1.17 PPG)
If a new manager gets 9-10 games at least we can know they will have a good idea of who/what they want/need to improve us.
The next appointment will be interesting if he truly wants to develop from the Academy, but is there enough talent there to get us out of this division or even further just in the next couple of years?
Lump on people, you know its happening.