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  • lonman
    lonman Posts: 254
    cafctom said:
    I can't be the only one who is amazed by the amount of Chris Wilder suggestions, as if it would be in any way remotely possible? 
    Why, if money is the only stumbling block TS has plenty to throw around. Had Wilder stayed at Sheff Utd (they will come good) he would have been in the Championship so it is only dropping down one league.

    Sell him a vision, control on transfers, good owner. What's not to like. 
    I don't see much evidence of TS "throwing money around" and I have no problem with that. I would imagine Wilder would be looking for vastly more money than Bowyer was on. I think the mistake would be Jackson. Appoint Jackson I don't see a huge uptick in performance. Happy to be proved wrong of course.
  • I’d be happy with most of the names bandied around but side with those looking to TS to show evidence of his long term plan and ambition.

    I’m not knocking TS in any way - I just think he now has a chance to top all the great stuff he’s done in the past few months with an exciting announcement. He does love the limelight and the news of his arrival this weekend smacks of more than a guy coming over to do some interviews.

    The good natured appearance of LB’s departure bears the hallmark of someone managing the long term business. LB has a (currently) higher placed opportunity, TS has the chance to make a big change. No fall out - no pay out (at least publically). 

    As ever I’m not in the know but this win-win does seem to have been impeccably handled. I only hope the next appointment has a chance to turn things round for the remainder of this season as I’d much rather see a scramble to put together a Championship side than a League 1 promotion side.  
  • SheedyCAFC
    SheedyCAFC Posts: 1,245
    Whoever we appoint, I think we can all agree that their name has to fit in the Allez Allez Allez chant.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,319
    edited March 2021
    lonman said:
    cafctom said:
    I can't be the only one who is amazed by the amount of Chris Wilder suggestions, as if it would be in any way remotely possible? 
    Why, if money is the only stumbling block TS has plenty to throw around. Had Wilder stayed at Sheff Utd (they will come good) he would have been in the Championship so it is only dropping down one league.

    Sell him a vision, control on transfers, good owner. What's not to like. 
    I don't see much evidence of TS "throwing money around" and I have no problem with that. I would imagine Wilder would be looking for vastly more money than Bowyer was on. I think the mistake would be Jackson. Appoint Jackson I don't see a huge uptick in performance. Happy to be proved wrong of course.
    He's already spent £500k on Schwartz and Jaiyesimi

    Not great sums in the game now, but equally reckon a lot of clubs at this level and below would love that sort of budget to spend on players
  • Addick_8
    Addick_8 Posts: 687
    edited March 2021
    J BLOCK said:
    Addick_8 said:
    I don’t think a single person mentioned Beale until those tweets last night and now suddenly most wants to give it to him.. based on what exactly? 
    You understand people can do research and then come to an opinion?

    I had never heard of him until yesterday but after reading more about him, i'd be more than happy if he was given the chance. 
    .


  • Oh dear.
  • E=mc2
    E=mc2 Posts: 311
    edited March 2021
    E=mc2 said:
    Deal was probably done before Lee Bowyer's departure - All it is now is probably just an announcement - No process or interviews for any candidates.  
    Is that you Katrien   ???
    Absolutely not - She is out this morning, buying new shoes - Watch this space!
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,596
    I still think Katrien could do a job for us....
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    edited March 2021
    As there's a thread for it.

    Ideal choice is Wilder, by far and away as well. Extremely good win percentage in the championship to league 2, a strong character, gets his team's playing and I think he will 'understand' our club. Wilder isn't a typical ego maniac who thinks he's above jobs and was a world class player etc, hard worker who grafted his way up the pyramid. He will understand our situation. If he doesn't have any offers and we offer the right money and terms etc then I don't see what's so crazy about it, seen wilder things..

    Medium content choice is the Cowleys out of everyone mentioned. I have critiqued their style previously but as a few posters said it is unlikely our next manager will be here for when we want to reach the top flight. They have teams that are hard to beat, two or 3 promotions under their belt? And aren't just looking for a pay off, ambitious management team. Happy to have a pair like that who can get us up and stabilise us, making us a more attractive club in the short term

    Then finally the Charlton link. Sorry but it's a no from me for JJ or Euell. If we want to get somewhere I don't want to end up with the easy option, I expect us to have a bit of a bounce now cause of JJ but honeymoon periods are what they are. If JJ coached a lower league team and did well then yeah maybe in the future, not now. Absolutely no to Powell, like Bowyer it was the right club at the right time, I don't see it working if he comes back. Curbs is the only one where I think there's a chance he could get it working. If I was Thomas I would have phoned Curbs and asked him if he fancied another go to see how he sees the season out to see if a) he still has it and b) still wants it. Goes wrong he goes back to valley pass if it goes right give him the job.

    Nothing against Jacko, Euell or Powell but I just don't see it ending well with any of them and would rather avoid another well thought of player be tarnished a bit 
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,230
    Addick_8 said:
    I don’t think a single person mentioned Beale until those tweets last night and now suddenly most wants to give it to him.. based on what exactly? 
    He's got a fish and chip shop in Walford.
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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    seth plum said:
    On Beale (who impresses me) I contemplate Les Reed who was/is a very good coach but not much of a manager.
    We shall see how everything turns out.
    Yeah its the only thing I dont like about an unproven Manager from the U23s somewhere

    They're going to be great at coaching the players

    Yet how good are they at identifying new signings that'll strengthen us, of course they'd be working with Steve Gallen, or if he left his successor (if we kept that model), but like Bowyer they'd still have a say on who comes in
    I agree but the last two managers who got us out of this league had no management experience.
  • Addick_8
    Addick_8 Posts: 687
    iaitch said:
    Addick_8 said:
    I don’t think a single person mentioned Beale until those tweets last night and now suddenly most wants to give it to him.. based on what exactly? 
    He's got a fish and chip shop in Walford.
    Now I get it!
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    esseffect said:
    esseffect said:
    Come on lads you all wanted Bowyer out surely you had thought that through and decided who could take on the job after?
    Genuine question. Why do you post? You seem to hate everyone on here.
    I just find the whole situation rather funny. I don’t hate everyone, just the armchair football managers/owners 
    Lol. We’re all armchair football managers/owners aren’t we?
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    J BLOCK said:
    Addick_8 said:
    I don’t think a single person mentioned Beale until those tweets last night and now suddenly most wants to give it to him.. based on what exactly? 
    You understand people can do research and then come to an opinion?

    I had never heard of him until yesterday but after reading more about him, i'd be more than happy if he was given the chance. 
    Come on now... New Charlton Life rule is that opinions cannot change, no matter what happens. 

    Your first opinion must remain and it's unacceptable to change it. 
  • StrikerFirmani
    StrikerFirmani Posts: 2,742
    Taxi_Lad said:
    I’d love it if the likes of Laudrup Henry or Lampard came in. Surely our players would be keen to impress
    Being keen to impress and being able to I'm not so sure.


  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    JamesSeed said:
    jams said:
    I don't get this sentiment of it having to be someone with no connection to us. Why? All the best periods we have had were when a Charlton man was in charge. I don't think it HAS to be a Charlton man but I personally like that we do it our way and don't hire in mercenary managers 
    Our very best period was with a man with no Charlton connection, who virtually spoke a foreign language. 
    Michael Beale fits the bill for me, but so do several others. [Edit: ok, Charlton connection is a bonus ;-)]
    I know Curbs has a Welsh middle name but calling him foreign is a bit of a stretch.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited March 2021
    Addick_8 said:
    I don’t think a single person mentioned Beale until those tweets last night and now suddenly most wants to give it to him.. based on what exactly? 
    Half of the reason for coming on CL is to to learn stuff. And I and many others have learned about Beale, and have really liked what we’ve heard. It would be a pretty dull thread if new names weren’t thrown into the mix. In this case by Beale himself. 
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,525
    My preference would be either Wilder or Howe, both unlikely, but given some financial clout, suspect both would have the confidence that they could build successfully with Charlton over a shortish timeframe. Have little doubt in Thomas’ capability to sell the dream.

    Realistically, Cowley or Bowen could get it. 

    I hope JJ stays on as coach, but in some respects hold him in such high regard, I wouldn’t want his reputation with the fans damaged if he were not to succeed with us as manager. Would rather him learn elsewhere in time then manage us successfully down the line.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,850
    lonman said:
    cafctom said:
    I can't be the only one who is amazed by the amount of Chris Wilder suggestions, as if it would be in any way remotely possible? 
    Why, if money is the only stumbling block TS has plenty to throw around. Had Wilder stayed at Sheff Utd (they will come good) he would have been in the Championship so it is only dropping down one league.

    Sell him a vision, control on transfers, good owner. What's not to like. 
    I don't see much evidence of TS "throwing money around" and I have no problem with that. I would imagine Wilder would be looking for vastly more money than Bowyer was on. I think the mistake would be Jackson. Appoint Jackson I don't see a huge uptick in performance. Happy to be proved wrong of course.
    He's already spent £500k on Schwartz and Jaiyesimi

    Not great sums in the game now, but equally reckon a lot of clubs at this level and below would love that sort of budget to spend on players
    It was covered by incomings though
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,701
    Chunes said:
    Scoham said:
    TS on what he wants:

    - Attacking football
    - A creative midfield
    - Develop players for us, not just for their careers
    - Use the academy, with a steady flow of talent coming through

    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/thomas-sandgaard-outlines-what-he-wants-from-next-charlton-athletic-manager/
    Even TS hates Pratley & Watson 
    Cause they cut in front of him in the pension line..
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  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,856
    esseffect said:
    esseffect said:
    Come on lads you all wanted Bowyer out surely you had thought that through and decided who could take on the job after?
    Genuine question. Why do you post? You seem to hate everyone on here.
    I just find the whole situation rather funny. I don’t hate everyone, just the armchair football managers/owners 
    Are you not annoyed at the lack of loyalty of Bowyer walking out on us then ?

    you cant have it both ways and criticise those who thought Bowyer should be replaced as showing no loyalty and then not criticise Bowyer for walking out on us.


  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,850
    Scoham said:
    TS on what he wants:

    - Attacking football
    - A creative midfield
    - Develop players for us, not just for their careers
    - Use the academy, with a steady flow of talent coming through

    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/thomas-sandgaard-outlines-what-he-wants-from-next-charlton-athletic-manager/
    This comment was interesting as it implies he was more impressed with the team we had BEFORE the January window

    “As you know already we are a team who play attacking football and I’d like to get even more emphasis on a very creative midfield that can create chances – I think we had that in the fall,”


  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    if we are promoting internally, it would be Jason Euell for me if it's external I really don't know, could do worse than Daniel Stendel.

    some out of work managers I really don't want us to go anywhere near are Monk, Harris or Lennon
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited March 2021
    Scoham said:
    TS on what he wants:

    - Attacking football
    - A creative midfield
    - Develop players for us, not just for their careers
    - Use the academy, with a steady flow of talent coming through

    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/thomas-sandgaard-outlines-what-he-wants-from-next-charlton-athletic-manager/
    This comment was interesting as it implies he was more impressed with the team we had BEFORE the January window

    “As you know already we are a team who play attacking football and I’d like to get even more emphasis on a very creative midfield that can create chances – I think we had that in the fall,”
    Yep Autumn/Fall was mid-September to mid-December, I think he was simply acknowledging we looked better in Autumn. 

    Autumn/Fall Period:
    Played 18, W9, D5, L4. (32pts 1.77 PPG)

    GWDate TeamH/AResult
    112/09CreweA3
    219/09DoncasterH0
    327/09LincolnA0
    403/10SunderlandH1
    617/10WiganH3
    720/10BlackpoolA3
    824/10NorthamptonA3
    927/10OxfordH3
    1031/10PortsmouthA3
    1103/11FleetwoodH3
    1321/11GillinghamA1
    1424/11BurtonA0
    528/11IpswichA3
    1502/12MK DonsH0
    1605/12ShrewsburyA1
    1712/12AFC WimbledonH3
    1919/12SwindonA1
    2026/12PlymouthH1

    Since Autumn/Fall
    P17, W5, D5, L7 (20pts 1.17 PPG)

    2202/01HullA0
    2308/01AccringtonH0
    1212/01RochdaleH1
    2416/01Bristol RA3
    2119/01PeterboroughA0
    2523/01SwindonH1
    2626/01MK DonsA3
    2702/02PortsmouthH0
    2806/02RochdaleA3
    2913/02GillinghamH0
    3020/02FleetwoodA1
    3123/02BurtonH0
    3227/02BlackpoolH0
    3302/03WiganA3
    3406/03OxfordA1
    3509/03NorthamptonH3
    3613/03ShrewsburyH1

    If a new manager gets 9-10 games at least we can know they will have a good idea of who/what they want/need to improve us. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,448
    Scoham said:
    TS on what he wants:

    - Attacking football
    - A creative midfield
    - Develop players for us, not just for their careers
    - Use the academy, with a steady flow of talent coming through

    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/thomas-sandgaard-outlines-what-he-wants-from-next-charlton-athletic-manager/
    Bowyer was definitely gone in the summer it looks like then. 
  • addickson
    addickson Posts: 891

    This comment was interesting as it implies he was more impressed with the team we had BEFORE the January window

    “As you know already we are a team who play attacking football and I’d like to get even more emphasis on a very creative midfield that can create chances – I think we had that in the fall,”


    Yup, think that TS will have been secretly pleased that LB resigned and that he may even get compo from Birmingham rather than having to pay up his contract if he wanted to sack LB.

    The next appointment will be interesting if he truly wants to develop from the Academy, but is there enough talent there to get us out of this division or even further just in the next couple of years?


  • Come on guys, the clues are all there to follow. Just starting out in management, experience in football admin, free flowing entertainment guaranteed, rock guitarist, Charlton hero, and Danish! I give you...



    Lump on people, you know its happening. 


  • Sounding like JJ will be given the reigns at least until end of season.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Sounding like JJ will be given the reigns at least until end of season.
    Why, where did you hear that?
  • The official shortlist:

    Michael Laudrup  - experienced, confident and Danish
    John Jensen- a football manager and Danish
    Hans Christian Andersen- creative, communicated well and Danish
    Mads Mikkelsen- acts the part, scary team talks and Danish
    Brigitte Nielsen- looks good and is Danish
    A Danish pastry- you get the idea...
    You obviously haven’t seen Brigitte Nielsen recently
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