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  • Jackson is a legend but if he gets it then it’s zero ambition.
    Why the lol
  • Addick_8
    Addick_8 Posts: 687
    edited March 2021
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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,982
    Michael Laudrup bookies early fav
    16/1 on SkyBet
    Is that the best price you have seen mate? 
    I haven’t really looked mate, I just knew he wasn’t early fav
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,767
    edited March 2021
    Jackson is a legend but if he gets it then it’s zero ambition.
    Why the lol
    Because it’s silly and reactionary. You’re already setting yourself for disappointment.

    If Jackson gets the gig full time, it’ll be on merit. Every realistic & experienced option at this level is going to have drawbacks.

    The options that don’t have drawbacks aren’t realistic.
  • IAgree
    IAgree Posts: 1,839
    Wilder or Howe
  • IR94
    IR94 Posts: 743
    How about Carvalhal?  had a good couple of years at Sheff Wed and nearly kept Swansea up.

    Why would he leave potentially champions league football with Braga for league 1?
  • I have just read on the Portsmouth FC, Evening News site that Pompey have been in talks with Daniel Stendel most of the day about their vacant managers job. However talks stalled this afternoon.

    It then goes onto mention that Lee Bowyer has left Charlton, but Bowyer is expected to join Birmingham.

    I am not sure whether the reason the talks have stalled is because Stedel stalled them.
    Possibly he has been approached by Thomas and wants to weigh up his options.
  • cashncarry
    cashncarry Posts: 980

  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    edited March 2021
    Jackson is a legend but if he gets it then it’s zero ambition.
    That's pretty much my take on things.

    If we had any other owner who did not have TS vision then I'd love to give JJ a chance. But to come out with big plans talking about European football in a set amount of years, I think you need to back that up by showing the same ambition with this appointment. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,767
    I have just read on the Portsmouth FC, Evening News site that Pompey have been in talks with Daniel Stendel most of the day about their vacant managers job. However talks stalled this afternoon.

    It then goes onto mention that Lee Bowyer has left Charlton, but Bowyer is expected to join Birmingham.

    I am not sure whether the reason the talks have stalled is because Stedel stalled them.
    Possibly he has been approached by Thomas and wants to weigh up his options.
    Pompey have only offered him a short term deal and he wants a longer commitment.
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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    IR94 said:
    How about Carvalhal?  had a good couple of years at Sheff Wed and nearly kept Swansea up.

    Why would he leave potentially champions league football with Braga for league 1?
    The champions league has nothing on the Farm pizza trophy 
  • Wilder would be the ultimate statement of intent
    It would, but we could do with finding the next Wilder.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,857
    Valley11 said:
    Nigel Clough?!?! Whaaaaa
    One because he is the son of one of the greatest motivators of all time, two because he has an understanding of the game from non league to international level and three because he is a family man who has demonstrated an appetite for sticking with a club. Sadly, I think it is, perhaps, his reluctance to move out of area that might be the issue but if TS were to be able to sell him his long term vision then I am convinced he would be the solution especially as he has a reputation for being able to work with Chairmen. 

    He played for Forest, Liverpool and Man City as well as England but here's his Managerial CV:

    In his first two seasons he was runners up in the Southern League with record points for a 2nd placed side. The second year they were pipped by Fatty Evans at Boston who it turned out had been massively cheating. Year 3 he was promoted, again with record points and record goals.

    They then played in the Conference as the only part time club, training twice a week, while they built the Pirelli.

    They drew when in the Conference with Man Utd in the Cup and then went full time, finishing 7th, 5th (beaten by Cambridge in the Play Off semis) and the next season came top and clear by 13 points, winning a record 12 games on the spin.

    At Derby he cut the wage bill from 38 million to just under 10 million and built a squad capable of pushing for the play offs despite having to generate his own transfer budget. 10 of the 11 who started the Play Off final were his signings.

    At Sheff Utd, he took them from 3rd bottom to 7th and an FA Cup semi in his first half season and then finished 5th and got them to a league cup semi in his 2nd. They had the 4th highest budget in League One but a lot of that budget came from cup runs and the Harry Maguire sale to Hull. He also signed Che Adams from Ilkeston for £250k and Adams on his own made a profit in excess of all of his transfer dealings.

    He then took over at Burton and were only ever out of the top two for one week, narrowly missing out going up as Champions. He then survived a season in the Championship despite having by far the lowest budget.

    When he joined Mansfield this season they had not won a single match from their first 14 games and were staring relegation in the face but are now 10 points above the relegation zone. And until he got injured, George Lapslie had been thriving under him 'til he got injured with 6 goals and 2 assists.

    He has brought through shedloads of youngsters in his time and also, unlike virtually all our Managers in living memory, has taken teams on Cup runs - as we so painfully know when his Sheffield United side knocked us out of the FA Cup to reach the semi final despite being a third tier side.

    But he probably won't come for the very reasons I set out at the outset - family and loyalty to the club he is at. 

    Hope that answers why I think he would be a good choice though.
    But apart from that, what exactly makes you think he would be a success? 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    IR94 said:
    How about Carvalhal?  had a good couple of years at Sheff Wed and nearly kept Swansea up.

    Why would he leave potentially champions league football with Braga for league 1?
    The champions league has nothing on the Farm pizza trophy 

    Thomas Sandgaard is prepared to give the new manager Four seasons.
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,667
    edited March 2021
    1st team coach at Rangers pitching for the job -

  • Addick_8 said:
    Jackson will get it I think. 
    Shouts for Wilder, Howe are just ridiculous. 
    I’d have anyone but the Cowleys. 
    Why would you not want a manager with a 50% win rate? You would rather have Les Reed or freyere or what ever his name is?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited March 2021
    Jackson is a legend but if he gets it then it’s zero ambition.
    Why the lol
    Because it’s silly and reactionary. You’re already setting yourself for disappointment.

    If Jackson gets the gig full time, it’ll be on merit. Every realistic & experienced option at this level is going to have drawbacks.

    The options that don’t have drawbacks aren’t realistic.
    Is that the same way Parkinson got it on merit?

    Or do you mean judged on results like Parky?

    Is there a manger anywhere that has managed any length of time that hasn't bad a bad patch or been sacked?  Pepe?

    Even SAF got the sack.  Although he was just AF at the time. 

  • IR94 said:
    How about Carvalhal?  had a good couple of years at Sheff Wed and nearly kept Swansea up.

    Why would he leave potentially champions league football with Braga for league 1?
    One step back for two steps forward. 
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,108
    edited March 2021
    1st team coach at Rangers pitching for the job -


    And highly regarded by Steven Gerrard 
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  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,039
    edited March 2021
    1st team coach at Rangers pitching for the job -


    He'd be a fantastic appointment . Seems to be very very highly regarded as a coach. Someone I brought up a couple of weeks ago on one of the other Bowyer threads.
  • Tony pulis, need entertainment 
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,224
    I know Laudrup is only being talked about because of the Danish connection, but I actually wouldn't be against it
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,767
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Jackson is a legend but if he gets it then it’s zero ambition.
    Why the lol
    Because it’s silly and reactionary. You’re already setting yourself for disappointment.

    If Jackson gets the gig full time, it’ll be on merit. Every realistic & experienced option at this level is going to have drawbacks.

    The options that don’t have drawbacks aren’t realistic.
    Is that the same way Parkinson got it on merit?

    Or do you mean judged on results like Parky?

    Is there a manger anywhere that has managed any length of time that hasn't bad a bad patch or been sacked?  Pepe?

    Even SAF got the sack.  Although he was just AF at the time. 

    I’m not sure we’re disagreeing here.

    SHG says if we give it to Jackson, it’ll be showing zero ambition.

    I’m saying it wouldn’t be an automatic appointment and if Jackson gets it long term, it’s because of results he gets on the pitch as caretaker.

    If TS was in charge during those years, I doubt Parkinson would’ve got the job full time.
  • Tony pulis, need entertainment 
    If entertainment for you is long throws and sticking pins in your eyes

    I can help with the latter for free
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,448
    "Get a manager with a strong tactical system and a shortlist of players ready to build the squad around. 

    None of this JJ/Euell nonsense. Will end up getting found out again like Bowyer did."

    Someone that knows the league would be helpful as they'd know the players to get us out of it. 
  • Addick_8
    Addick_8 Posts: 687
    Addick_8 said:
    Jackson will get it I think. 
    Shouts for Wilder, Howe are just ridiculous. 
    I’d have anyone but the Cowleys. 
    Why would you not want a manager with a 50% win rate? You would rather have Les Reed or freyere or what ever his name is?
    They play some of the worst football you will see and his win ratio comes from League 2. If Thomas wants his premiership ambition to be matched he needs to aim a lot higher than the Cowleys.
  • dickad1
    dickad1 Posts: 260
    IR94 said:
    How about Carvalhal?  had a good couple of years at Sheff Wed and nearly kept Swansea up.

    Why would he leave potentially champions league football with Braga for league 1?
    The champions league has nothing on the Farm pizza trophy 

    Thomas Sandgaard is prepared to give the new manager Four seasons.
    ..and lots of dough.
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    edited March 2021
    1st team coach at Rangers pitching for the job -


    Read a article last week on how good of a coach he is. Players rave about his sessions. 
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