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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

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  • dickad1 said:
    J BLOCK said:
    aTS attending the Charlton golf day dinner this evening, I’m sure people will hear something.
    Fore new signings
    A fifth wanted £10k a week which was way out of bounds. 

    Was firmly told that's too much wedge.  'If you like a big club you should go to Ipswich'  

    New Senegalese centre back rumoured to be unveiled: Naby Par
  • J BLOCK said:
    TS attending the Charlton golf day dinner this evening, I’m sure people will hear something.
    He's got some serious wedge that's for sure.
  • The ‘light years behind Ipswich’ comment on the previous page really tickled me 
  • cabbles said:
    The ‘light years behind Ipswich’ comment on the previous page really tickled me 
    Sometimes you just have to accept it is a losing battle and give up trying to be rationale 
  • cabbles said:
    The ‘light years behind Ipswich’ comment on the previous page really tickled me 
    The same Ipswich that struggled to a 3-3 draw at Colchester yesterday no less.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Spending big on the women team at the detriment of the men. Sigh. 
    How much do you think she is on?  £500 a week? 

    I know Wrexham offered her 9k but seriously? 
    It was tongue in cheek but I am sure I am not the only one to have absolutely no interest in womens football so I personally don't want any money spent on it. 100% on the team I've been watching for 53 years now. 

    Before anyone says it I don't comment on the Women's football threads. No offence meant, just not for me. Paradoxically I currently prefer women's tennis to the mens. 
    You don't watch it therefore no money should be spent on it? How selfish is that? I don't watch any women's football either but I wouldn't ever think that's it's not important enough to spend money on, especially in 2021 where there is an obviously massive potential in women's football 
    Is there massive potential? I don't dislike it by any means but I really don't know any people that religiously watch it like the mens.  Just don't think the interest is there for it to grow much.p
    "Massive" might be overstating it but I do think it's got potential to grow and if so being ahead of the game rather than playing catch-up will be an obvious benefit.
  • cabbles said:
    The ‘light years behind Ipswich’ comment on the previous page really tickled me 
    The A12 up to Ipswich really can feel like that long at times
  • cabbles said:
    The ‘light years behind Ipswich’ comment on the previous page really tickled me 
    The same Ipswich that struggled to a 3-3 draw at Colchester yesterday no less.
    Caring about friendlies, really? 
  • Scoham said:
    I thought TS telling a fan last night that we'd sign players but not until the end of the window was a decent rumour but it seems to have gone unnoticed.


    There’s even photo evidence of TS with a fan on the Facebook group.


    The arrow points to relegation.


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  • edited July 2021
    cabbles said:
    The ‘light years behind Ipswich’ comment on the previous page really tickled me 
    The same Ipswich that struggled to a 3-3 draw at Colchester yesterday no less.
    Caring about friendlies, really? 
    I agree with you that they don't indicate much - but some of the whiners hang on every pre season result of ours so why not turn it around and do the same with them?

    If they were truly light years ahead, they would be blowing away teams from the league below. I know which team (between us and them) had the better result yesterday.

    Ipswich will lose plenty of games this season. That's just how football works, the good teams on paper aren't guaranteed anything.
  • Scoham said:
    I thought TS telling a fan last night that we'd sign players but not until the end of the window was a decent rumour but it seems to have gone unnoticed.


    There’s even photo evidence of TS with a fan on the Facebook group.


    The arrow points to relegation.


    I'll be happy if that happens to Palace :D

  • rananegra said:
    Scoham said:
    I thought TS telling a fan last night that we'd sign players but not until the end of the window was a decent rumour but it seems to have gone unnoticed.


    There’s even photo evidence of TS with a fan on the Facebook group.


    The arrow points to relegation.


    I'll be happy if that happens to Palace :D

    I'll grasp at any sign to see those skidmarks relegated!
  • Hello muttleycafc ONLY 3 OR 4 more signings and we have a great chance! With 9 days left to sign players have you been drinking!
  • He didn't update on Gilbey. We know from the player's own words that it was no joke catching it. Does anybody know how he is now?
  • Seeing as everyone loves to comment on Ipswich I'm going to add my 2 penneth.

    I'd love to see what their spend is in comparison to the previous 5 or so years for league 1 clubs, particularly on wages. I imagine its way beyond the norm and not a sustainable way to run a 3rd tier club.

    They're putting everything on getting promoted this season and whilst there is a very good chance its by no means guaranteed. What happens then if they don't go up. Do they throw a load more US pension fund money at it? Its like the imploding clubs of the Championship have gone straight over their heads.

    When Sangaard took over I was more than happy just to have a stable, well run club and I still am. Yes his "blowing through the league"  comments may have been a little OTT but I bet he didn't expect the likes of Ipswich to be spending the sort of money they are and the market conditions to be so tough to operate in.

    I want out of this division as much as the next man but I don't want to risk it all paying way over the top for players just to try and match what Ipswich or Wigan are doing.
    What is a sustainable way to run a league 1 club the size of Charlton or Ipswich?  People keep talking about it and never explain what they mean.

    Ipswich's wage bill, at the moment, will be a fraction of what Sunderland's was in 2019, in fact I would guess its in the same ball park at the moment as ours was in 2019.

    They have also sold players, and will sell more to help cover the cost.  They have signed Piggot and Fraser not Kane and KDB. 
  • Think only 3/4 needed .. looked at the squad today and even leaving out Dempsey, Vennings and Harness we have 25 of which 7 are young players .. think that the largest in league one 
  • JOKERS ON HERE SAYING 2 MEDICALS TODAY… 
  • Think only 3/4 needed .. looked at the squad today and even leaving out Dempsey, Vennings and Harness we have 25 of which 7 are young players .. think that the largest in league one 
    No it's not
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  • JOKERS ON HERE SAYING 2 MEDICALS TODAY… 
    You mean there’s more than 2?
  • My Mum had one today but she is 86 and not very mobile so I don’t think it’s her
    At the rate the women’s team are signing players I won’t be writing off her chances.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Seeing as everyone loves to comment on Ipswich I'm going to add my 2 penneth.

    I'd love to see what their spend is in comparison to the previous 5 or so years for league 1 clubs, particularly on wages. I imagine its way beyond the norm and not a sustainable way to run a 3rd tier club.

    They're putting everything on getting promoted this season and whilst there is a very good chance its by no means guaranteed. What happens then if they don't go up. Do they throw a load more US pension fund money at it? Its like the imploding clubs of the Championship have gone straight over their heads.

    When Sangaard took over I was more than happy just to have a stable, well run club and I still am. Yes his "blowing through the league"  comments may have been a little OTT but I bet he didn't expect the likes of Ipswich to be spending the sort of money they are and the market conditions to be so tough to operate in.

    I want out of this division as much as the next man but I don't want to risk it all paying way over the top for players just to try and match what Ipswich or Wigan are doing.
    What is a sustainable way to run a league 1 club the size of Charlton or Ipswich?  People keep talking about it and never explain what they mean.

    Ipswich's wage bill, at the moment, will be a fraction of what Sunderland's was in 2019, in fact I would guess its in the same ball park at the moment as ours was in 2019.

    They have also sold players, and will sell more to help cover the cost.  They have signed Piggot and Fraser not Kane and KDB. 
    I couldn't given an explanation for that but I'm not sure 2019 wages are all that relevant in a post-COVID world where football finances are in a huge mess. I would guess that being sustainable is not paying 3rd tier players £10k a week. As I said great for them if they get promoted as their gamble pays off but what if it doesn't. League 1 incomes can't cover those types of wages so its back to a reliance on rich benefactors or pension funds to cover the costs. What if they then decide to pull the plug if they can't buy immediate success?
  • Replace “Charlton Twitter” with “CharltonLife Rumours Rumours”...
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Seeing as everyone loves to comment on Ipswich I'm going to add my 2 penneth.

    I'd love to see what their spend is in comparison to the previous 5 or so years for league 1 clubs, particularly on wages. I imagine its way beyond the norm and not a sustainable way to run a 3rd tier club.

    They're putting everything on getting promoted this season and whilst there is a very good chance its by no means guaranteed. What happens then if they don't go up. Do they throw a load more US pension fund money at it? Its like the imploding clubs of the Championship have gone straight over their heads.

    When Sangaard took over I was more than happy just to have a stable, well run club and I still am. Yes his "blowing through the league"  comments may have been a little OTT but I bet he didn't expect the likes of Ipswich to be spending the sort of money they are and the market conditions to be so tough to operate in.

    I want out of this division as much as the next man but I don't want to risk it all paying way over the top for players just to try and match what Ipswich or Wigan are doing.
    What is a sustainable way to run a league 1 club the size of Charlton or Ipswich?  People keep talking about it and never explain what they mean.

    Ipswich's wage bill, at the moment, will be a fraction of what Sunderland's was in 2019, in fact I would guess its in the same ball park at the moment as ours was in 2019.

    They have also sold players, and will sell more to help cover the cost.  They have signed Piggot and Fraser not Kane and KDB. 
    I couldn't given an explanation for that but I'm not sure 2019 wages are all that relevant in a post-COVID world where football finances are in a huge mess. I would guess that being sustainable is not paying 3rd tier players £10k a week. As I said great for them if they get promoted as their gamble pays off but what if it doesn't. League 1 incomes can't cover those types of wages so its back to a reliance on rich benefactors or pension funds to cover the costs. What if they then decide to pull the plug if they can't buy immediate success?
    For clubs like Charlton and Ipswich, League One is NOT sustainable. At all. With any model. That's the problem. Every year you're down here you're losing money.

    The problem is that trying to spend big to fund a promotion is a big gamble, potentially literally win or bust. If Ipswich dont get up this season I genuinely don't know if they could afford to make another attempt or be forced to go for bargains and freebies.
  • edited July 2021
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Seeing as everyone loves to comment on Ipswich I'm going to add my 2 penneth.

    I'd love to see what their spend is in comparison to the previous 5 or so years for league 1 clubs, particularly on wages. I imagine its way beyond the norm and not a sustainable way to run a 3rd tier club.

    They're putting everything on getting promoted this season and whilst there is a very good chance its by no means guaranteed. What happens then if they don't go up. Do they throw a load more US pension fund money at it? Its like the imploding clubs of the Championship have gone straight over their heads.

    When Sangaard took over I was more than happy just to have a stable, well run club and I still am. Yes his "blowing through the league"  comments may have been a little OTT but I bet he didn't expect the likes of Ipswich to be spending the sort of money they are and the market conditions to be so tough to operate in.

    I want out of this division as much as the next man but I don't want to risk it all paying way over the top for players just to try and match what Ipswich or Wigan are doing.
    What is a sustainable way to run a league 1 club the size of Charlton or Ipswich?  People keep talking about it and never explain what they mean.

    Ipswich's wage bill, at the moment, will be a fraction of what Sunderland's was in 2019, in fact I would guess its in the same ball park at the moment as ours was in 2019.

    They have also sold players, and will sell more to help cover the cost.  They have signed Piggot and Fraser not Kane and KDB. 
    I couldn't given an explanation for that but I'm not sure 2019 wages are all that relevant in a post-COVID world where football finances are in a huge mess. I would guess that being sustainable is not paying 3rd tier players £10k a week. As I said great for them if they get promoted as their gamble pays off but what if it doesn't. League 1 incomes can't cover those types of wages so its back to a reliance on rich benefactors or pension funds to cover the costs. What if they then decide to pull the plug if they can't buy immediate success?
    The reason 2019 is relevant is because I know what the wage bill was and there were crowds all season.  So it's the nearest you can get like for like.

    No you can't pay loads of players 10k a week in league 1 indefinitely but the alternative isn't zero cost either.

    They will have a hand full of players on 10ish k a week but they won't all be on that, most won't be on anything like that.  I would guess their total wage bill will come in somewhere in the region of 12 million quid.  Ours will probably be in the ball park of 8 or 9.  They have, or at least will have by the time the window closes, got in the region of 3 or 4 million plus in transfer fees.  Their total loses will probably be very similar to ours this year.

    By investing in players they probably have 1 or 2 they can sell and repeat next summer.  If they have to. By not doing so, if our squad stayed the same, we would just book another 9 or so million loss and be in exactly the same place next season.

    What do we do if Thomas pulls the plug because its more expensive than he thought?  You could say that about any of the 80 odd clubs that make a loss every year. 
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