Cousins will no doubt end up at Luton as Jones took him to Stoke and was his coach in our academy. Move on guys!
To team up at Luton with Joe Pigott, strangely a former player who doesn't draw the same "we must never sign old players" reaction
in my opinion Piggott played once or twice for us, was released and has gone elsewhere, scored goals and shown he is good enough for the Championship, is young, fit and hungry. Cousins has gone elsewhere, not pulled up any trees, not really progressed and has missed a lot of games through injury. I'd take Piggott back but not Cousins.
But PIggot is a former player so can't be re-signed on your "never go back" principal.
Or are you now saying we should sign players who improve the team, regardless of whether they played for us before?
I'm not saying never sign players who have played for you before but in my opinion it's never as good second time around. In my opinion there is a difference too between Piggott and Cousins, I'd have the former back but not the latter. Just my opinion, which is what I thought this forum was for.
I don’t recall Piggott doing that much for us in his first spell yet you’d have him back even though, by your logic, he’d not be as good second time around? Maybe me but that makes no sense if we want to get out of League One.
I hate the way football fans talk about footballers sometimes. Imagine being some bloke who would be given the run around by the under 14s sitting at their laptop and confidently saying a professional footballer playing in the first or second division is 'dogshit' or 'dreadful' with 'no footballing brain'. What a weird life. I wonder if they heckle window cleaners and dentists as well
Do what?
So unless we are better than a footballer we can never describe one negatively?
Not sure where you're getting that from as that's not what I said. Sure people can be negative about footballers, the way some talk about them is ridiculous though. Saying that people who make a good living out of football are 'shit' footballers is just needlessly unpleasant and makes that person look a bit thick. Of course that player isn't shit, if he was no-one would pay him thousands of pounds a week. Just makes me wonder if those people are also going round screaming at the people who work at Sainsbury's if they're too slow at the till or leave abusive reviews on Twitter for films they didn't enjoy watching. It's weird that some fans don't seem to have any ability to talk about footballers in a balanced way. It makes Twitter a cesspit.
But I think cousins is shit, I could explain why and use a few big words if I wanted but I didn’t on this occasion. Perhaps try not getting so offended by a difference of opinion on something so irrelevant, it’s not like I’ve said this to cousins directly, that I don’t like, but this is the perfect place to express your opinions.
.....following the theme, a not quite ex player Yanick Bolasie (I seem to remember he was not granted an overseas permit to join us) is now without a contract, slow 32yr old winger anyone ?
I hate the way football fans talk about footballers sometimes. Imagine being some bloke who would be given the run around by the under 14s sitting at their laptop and confidently saying a professional footballer playing in the first or second division is 'dogshit' or 'dreadful' with 'no footballing brain'. What a weird life. I wonder if they heckle window cleaners and dentists as well
Do what?
So unless we are better than a footballer we can never describe one negatively?
Not sure where you're getting that from as that's not what I said. Sure people can be negative about footballers, the way some talk about them is ridiculous though. Saying that people who make a good living out of football are 'shit' footballers is just needlessly unpleasant and makes that person look a bit thick. Of course that player isn't shit, if he was no-one would pay him thousands of pounds a week. Just makes me wonder if those people are also going round screaming at the people who work at Sainsbury's if they're too slow at the till or leave abusive reviews on Twitter for films they didn't enjoy watching. It's weird that some fans don't seem to have any ability to talk about footballers in a balanced way. It makes Twitter a cesspit.
But I think cousins is shit, I could explain why and use a few big words if I wanted but I didn’t on this occasion. Perhaps try not getting so offended by a difference of opinion on something so irrelevant, it’s not like I’ve said this to cousins directly, that I don’t like, but this is the perfect place to express your opinions.
You don’t strike me as a big words kind of guy
You'd be incorrect.........he just hides them well sometimes.
.....following the theme, a not quite ex player Yanick Bolasie (I seem to remember he was not granted an overseas permit to join us) is now without a contract, slow 32yr old winger anyone ?
Slow?
He was born in France so wouldn't have needed a work permit. He was on £4 million a year at Everton, I doubt he is in rush to join our "project".
.....following the theme, a not quite ex player Yanick Bolasie (I seem to remember he was not granted an overseas permit to join us) is now without a contract, slow 32yr old winger anyone ?
Slow?
...maybe a bad assumption I kinda assumed he wouldn't be tearing up the wings at 32
He’s not as young as I thought, being 28 already but on the other hand, goalkeepers do peak later and he could be entering the best years of his career.
With Amos, he’s solid enough at this level but I don’t think there’s a realistic shot that he is a first choice goalkeeper for anyone in the Championship. He’s had the chance at a handful of clubs and never been able to keep the shirt.
CMG (yes, that’s his new name) has never been tested at that level. So... he may be good, he may flop.
But one thing is for sure, we know the “floor” (top end L1) of both talents is about the same. And we know Amos’ “ceiling” (struggling Champ) isn’t much higher than that floor whereas we’d have to wait and see just how good CMG can be.
It’s definitely an either or conversation. Can’t see any world in which we carry both players.
We will definitely need 3rd division standard cover for injury/suspension - Amos being available for all 46 league starts was a fluke, a goaly often has the most starts in a squad but 100% can't be taken for granted. We'll not be planning on "carrying" anybody but we need adequate cover for all positions, goaly's not one where we'll get away with a non-specialist. Scott Carson's gonna be available...
Are you suggesting Scott Carson will swap a place in the City squad for sitting on our bench?
Cousins will no doubt end up at Luton as Jones took him to Stoke and was his coach in our academy. Move on guys!
To team up at Luton with Joe Pigott, strangely a former player who doesn't draw the same "we must never sign old players" reaction
in my opinion Piggott played once or twice for us, was released and has gone elsewhere, scored goals and shown he is good enough for the Championship, is young, fit and hungry. Cousins has gone elsewhere, not pulled up any trees, not really progressed and has missed a lot of games through injury. I'd take Piggott back but not Cousins.
But PIggot is a former player so can't be re-signed on your "never go back" principal.
Or are you now saying we should sign players who improve the team, regardless of whether they played for us before?
I'm not saying never sign players who have played for you before but in my opinion it's never as good second time around. In my opinion there is a difference too between Piggott and Cousins, I'd have the former back but not the latter. Just my opinion, which is what I thought this forum was for.
I don’t recall Piggott doing that much for us in his first spell yet you’d have him back even though, by your logic, he’d not be as good second time around? Maybe me but that makes no sense if we want to get out of League One.
Piggott played a couple of times in his first 'spell' before being released. It would hardly be second time around for him.
I hate the way football fans talk about footballers sometimes. Imagine being some bloke who would be given the run around by the under 14s sitting at their laptop and confidently saying a professional footballer playing in the first or second division is 'dogshit' or 'dreadful' with 'no footballing brain'. What a weird life. I wonder if they heckle window cleaners and dentists as well
Do what?
So unless we are better than a footballer we can never describe one negatively?
Not sure where you're getting that from as that's not what I said. Sure people can be negative about footballers, the way some talk about them is ridiculous though. Saying that people who make a good living out of football are 'shit' footballers is just needlessly unpleasant and makes that person look a bit thick. Of course that player isn't shit, if he was no-one would pay him thousands of pounds a week. Just makes me wonder if those people are also going round screaming at the people who work at Sainsbury's if they're too slow at the till or leave abusive reviews on Twitter for films they didn't enjoy watching. It's weird that some fans don't seem to have any ability to talk about footballers in a balanced way. It makes Twitter a cesspit.
But I think cousins is shit, I could explain why and use a few big words if I wanted but I didn’t on this occasion. Perhaps try not getting so offended by a difference of opinion on something so irrelevant, it’s not like I’ve said this to cousins directly, that I don’t like, but this is the perfect place to express your opinions.
He's not shit though, he's a professional footballer who is paid to play football. I'm shit at football, but that's why I never got past Sunday League and no-one will ever pay me to attempt it at any level. Calling a player who has played over 200 games in the Championship shit is just silly. That's sort of the point I'm making, it's not that the words are scary and upsetting, it's that they're ridiculous. It's not big words you need to use, it's a bit of awareness of scale.
.....following the theme, a not quite ex player Yanick Bolasie (I seem to remember he was not granted an overseas permit to join us) is now without a contract, slow 32yr old winger anyone ?
I think you have got Bolasie mixed up with Bolanos.
Cousins will no doubt end up at Luton as Jones took him to Stoke and was his coach in our academy. Move on guys!
To team up at Luton with Joe Pigott, strangely a former player who doesn't draw the same "we must never sign old players" reaction
in my opinion Piggott played once or twice for us, was released and has gone elsewhere, scored goals and shown he is good enough for the Championship, is young, fit and hungry. Cousins has gone elsewhere, not pulled up any trees, not really progressed and has missed a lot of games through injury. I'd take Piggott back but not Cousins.
But PIggot is a former player so can't be re-signed on your "never go back" principal.
Or are you now saying we should sign players who improve the team, regardless of whether they played for us before?
I'm not saying never sign players who have played for you before but in my opinion it's never as good second time around. In my opinion there is a difference too between Piggott and Cousins, I'd have the former back but not the latter. Just my opinion, which is what I thought this forum was for.
Lawrie Wilson, turned out to be alright 2nd time around Danny Green started his youth football with us, was definitely better than that 9 years later Danny Haynes similar but less so Jason Euell was a shadow of his former self when he returned in 2011 but was an able squad player for 3rd division football in that title winning season and his time with us since then has been worthwhile, hasn't it?
Cousins will no doubt end up at Luton as Jones took him to Stoke and was his coach in our academy. Move on guys!
To team up at Luton with Joe Pigott, strangely a former player who doesn't draw the same "we must never sign old players" reaction
in my opinion Piggott played once or twice for us, was released and has gone elsewhere, scored goals and shown he is good enough for the Championship, is young, fit and hungry. Cousins has gone elsewhere, not pulled up any trees, not really progressed and has missed a lot of games through injury. I'd take Piggott back but not Cousins.
But PIggot is a former player so can't be re-signed on your "never go back" principal.
Or are you now saying we should sign players who improve the team, regardless of whether they played for us before?
I'm not saying never sign players who have played for you before but in my opinion it's never as good second time around. In my opinion there is a difference too between Piggott and Cousins, I'd have the former back but not the latter. Just my opinion, which is what I thought this forum was for.
Lawrie Wilson, turned out to be alright 2nd time around Danny Green started his youth football with us, was definitely better than that 9 years later Danny Haynes similar but less so Jason Euell was a shadow of his former self when he returned in 2011 but was an able squad player for 3rd division football in that title winning season and his time with us since then has been worthwhile, hasn't it?
I wasn't commentating on people coming back in managerial/coaching roles. Danny Green is the same as Piggott, didn't get a chance first time round.
I hate the way football fans talk about footballers sometimes. Imagine being some bloke who would be given the run around by the under 14s sitting at their laptop and confidently saying a professional footballer playing in the first or second division is 'dogshit' or 'dreadful' with 'no footballing brain'. What a weird life. I wonder if they heckle window cleaners and dentists as well
Do what?
So unless we are better than a footballer we can never describe one negatively?
Not sure where you're getting that from as that's not what I said. Sure people can be negative about footballers, the way some talk about them is ridiculous though. Saying that people who make a good living out of football are 'shit' footballers is just needlessly unpleasant and makes that person look a bit thick. Of course that player isn't shit, if he was no-one would pay him thousands of pounds a week. Just makes me wonder if those people are also going round screaming at the people who work at Sainsbury's if they're too slow at the till or leave abusive reviews on Twitter for films they didn't enjoy watching. It's weird that some fans don't seem to have any ability to talk about footballers in a balanced way. It makes Twitter a cesspit.
But I think cousins is shit, I could explain why and use a few big words if I wanted but I didn’t on this occasion. Perhaps try not getting so offended by a difference of opinion on something so irrelevant, it’s not like I’ve said this to cousins directly, that I don’t like, but this is the perfect place to express your opinions.
He's not shit though, he's a professional footballer who is paid to play football. I'm shit at football, but that's why I never got past Sunday League and no-one will ever pay me to attempt it at any level. Calling a player who has played over 200 games in the Championship shit is just silly. That's sort of the point I'm making, it's not that the words are scary and upsetting, it's that they're ridiculous. It's not big words you need to use, it's a bit of awareness of scale.
Well when I say he’s shit who do think I’m comparing him to?? Players that might win us this league or the man in the street?? Absolutely staggering that needs explaining.
The Valley, Sparrows Lane, The Royal Oak, up in town?
He normally goes to see madge on Avery hill road on a Wednesday. I often see his Range Rover parked on the drive. I know it’s his because of the number plate - Am1ss 1
.....following the theme, a not quite ex player Yanick Bolasie (I seem to remember he was not granted an overseas permit to join us) is now without a contract, slow 32yr old winger anyone ?
I think you have got Bolasie mixed up with Bolanos.
Cheers LA, sigh, I'l just crawl back under my Shropshire hedge
Cousins will no doubt end up at Luton as Jones took him to Stoke and was his coach in our academy. Move on guys!
To team up at Luton with Joe Pigott, strangely a former player who doesn't draw the same "we must never sign old players" reaction
in my opinion Piggott played once or twice for us, was released and has gone elsewhere, scored goals and shown he is good enough for the Championship, is young, fit and hungry. Cousins has gone elsewhere, not pulled up any trees, not really progressed and has missed a lot of games through injury. I'd take Piggott back but not Cousins.
But PIggot is a former player so can't be re-signed on your "never go back" principal.
Or are you now saying we should sign players who improve the team, regardless of whether they played for us before?
I'm not saying never sign players who have played for you before but in my opinion it's never as good second time around. In my opinion there is a difference too between Piggott and Cousins, I'd have the former back but not the latter. Just my opinion, which is what I thought this forum was for.
I don’t recall Piggott doing that much for us in his first spell yet you’d have him back even though, by your logic, he’d not be as good second time around? Maybe me but that makes no sense if we want to get out of League One.
Piggott played a couple of times in his first 'spell' before being released. It would hardly be second time around for him.
He’e either been with us before or he hasn’t LA! It doesn’t matter how many he times he played in the first team, the fact is bringing him back would be his second spell at the club.
I hate the way football fans talk about footballers sometimes. Imagine being some bloke who would be given the run around by the under 14s sitting at their laptop and confidently saying a professional footballer playing in the first or second division is 'dogshit' or 'dreadful' with 'no footballing brain'. What a weird life. I wonder if they heckle window cleaners and dentists as well
Do what?
So unless we are better than a footballer we can never describe one negatively?
Not sure where you're getting that from as that's not what I said. Sure people can be negative about footballers, the way some talk about them is ridiculous though. Saying that people who make a good living out of football are 'shit' footballers is just needlessly unpleasant and makes that person look a bit thick. Of course that player isn't shit, if he was no-one would pay him thousands of pounds a week. Just makes me wonder if those people are also going round screaming at the people who work at Sainsbury's if they're too slow at the till or leave abusive reviews on Twitter for films they didn't enjoy watching. It's weird that some fans don't seem to have any ability to talk about footballers in a balanced way. It makes Twitter a cesspit.
But I think cousins is shit, I could explain why and use a few big words if I wanted but I didn’t on this occasion. Perhaps try not getting so offended by a difference of opinion on something so irrelevant, it’s not like I’ve said this to cousins directly, that I don’t like, but this is the perfect place to express your opinions.
You don’t strike me as a big words kind of guy
Well it’s certainly better than filling ones posts with a stream of pointless and unnecessary floccinaucinihilipilification.
Surely we want to poach the best L2 players. Paul Mullin scored 32 in 46 for Cambridge last season. Scored 11 more than the second highest scorer in the league.
One good season wonder .. journeyman another Ajose
Or as good as team set up, which provided the service for him to score all those goals?
If the team is poor or the set up is not right, or meagre service/lone forward - it's a struggle for any striker to score goals, no matter how decent they are for the level.
And if they are capable of scoring plenty of goals that they've created for themself, they won't be playing for long in this Division!
So piggot not good enough for us has one good season in league 1 should be resigned yet cousins who was very good player for us and has played championship football all his career is not good enough for us in league 1. 🤪
It's because Pigott (dob 24/11/93) is young and hungry and Cousins (dob 6/03/94) is past it
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I don’t recall Piggott doing that much for us in his first spell yet you’d have him back even though, by your logic, he’d not be as good second time around? Maybe me but that makes no sense if we want to get out of League One.
He was born in France so wouldn't have needed a work permit. He was on £4 million a year at Everton, I doubt he is in rush to join our "project".
I think you have got Bolasie mixed up with Bolanos.
Danny Green started his youth football with us, was definitely better than that 9 years later
Danny Haynes similar but less so
Jason Euell was a shadow of his former self when he returned in 2011 but was an able squad player for 3rd division football in that title winning season and his time with us since then has been worthwhile, hasn't it?
He’e either been with us before or he hasn’t LA! It doesn’t matter how many he times he played in the first team, the fact is bringing him back would be his second spell at the club.
If the team is poor or the set up is not right, or meagre service/lone forward - it's a struggle for any striker to score goals, no matter how decent they are for the level.
And if they are capable of scoring plenty of goals that they've created for themself, they won't be playing for long in this Division!
Joe Pigott - ex Charlton striker, aged 27, just been released by AFC Wimbledon at the end of his contract.
Joe Piggott - 21 year old Altrincham striker, who as far as I know has never even stepped foot in SE7.
You've earned your lol, old chap.