First half was one of the first times I've actually enjoyed watching us this season, thought we played really well. CBT looks a player if he can keep up this current form and I've always liked the look of Davison, hopefully if he gets a decent run he'll have a chance of showing his potential.
Not sure if our heads went down with us us not getting that second goal when we were on top but second half was much poorer, thought a draw was a fair result in the end as they probably edged the second half.
If we can replicate that first half display that's definitely something I can get behind, even though the result wasn't what we wanted tonight at least there were elements of the performance to like. For most of the games this season our results have been poor as have our performances so I'll count tonight as progress in my eyes.
I thought NA's interview post match was fair, certainly didn't feel like he was throwing the recruitment team under the bus from what I heard just making a valid point that it'll take longer for the team to gel given we made a lot of late signings. In NA's defence he said from minute one he wanted a squad in place for pre-season, when it became clear that wasn't going to happen he rolled with it but said it would present challenges which is all he repeated tonight. Certainly didn't get the impression he was trying to make a point of it.
Adkins is just throwing darts at a board now, isn’t he?
He is completely lost on what our best XI is and for all the modern bullshit about football being a squad game you MUST know your best XI.
Bowyer’s Play Off winning side
Philips
Djiksteel - Bauer - Sarr - Purrington
Cullen - Bielek - Pratley - Aribo
Taylor - Grant/Parker
Powell’s League One Champions
Hamer
Solly - Morrison - Taylor/Cort - Wiggins
Green/Wagstaff - Hollands - Stephens - Jackson
BWP - Kermorgant
We can all name those sides off by heart, can’t we?
Why? Because the managers identified the best XI and got the maximum out of them.
Right now Adkins is guessing…and he is running out of time to get it right.
Completely agree with this. I don't think NA has a clue what our best X1, best formation or style is and if he doesn't then how can he expect the players to?
I'm no fan of Adkins, but if we had recruited decent match fit players by the end of July as he/we wanted he would have known by now.
His post match interview on CATV was a very clever dig/not dig at that.
To paraphrase he said I played exactly the same way in all bar one game last season, exactly the same way all through preseason, why did it take until deadline day to get the players.
The main question that still hasn't been answered this season.
Only some PR fluff on the website that skirts around the issues.
Got to say I'm delighted with a point. We were the better side first half and Blackett-Taylor was causing no end of problems for their left back but whilst his finals balls were OK our players seemed reluctant to bust a gut to attack them in the box. Josh Davison links play well but is visibly unconfident in shooting positions. Washington unlucky as well when he did his usual thing and made his chance himself. Lee took his goal well and we deserved the lead then went into half time, came out for the second half and became the team that played Wycombe on Saturday. Evans change it up, brought Lloyd on who had Matthews on toast, Oliver was predictably winning everything in the air and playing that role of back to the goal number 9 excellently. In the end we were hanging on, they had one of those penalty appeals where you'd be gutted if it was given against you but accepting that it was probably a pen. And whacked the post and somehow failed to follow it up
One highlight, now I'm not a fan of Ben Watson particularly, he had an OK game tonight but at the end a mob of rabid, skidmarked, and pock-faced gillingham youth were giving tons of pretty unnecessary and unpleasant abuse to Purrington and Watson, Purrington laughed it off but had one of those faces on that said 'really?' While Ben Watson pointed to each one, ear to ear grin and said "your mum, your mum, your mum, your mum" which sent them even more rabid. God bless him he then told them what their mums had all done (the international gesture for being taken in the mouth) and I've got to say I like Ben Watson a lot now. Fair play to him, thats how you respond to angry virgins like that
I suppose we put the brake on the rot a little bit by a better performance, and not losing, but the result remains a disappointment. Quite a lot of positives, but my brief comment for now is without the now legendary lumping it up to Stockley things were better and we played more football. This is more like treading water than swimming for the shore though.
Adkins is just throwing darts at a board now, isn’t he?
He is completely lost on what our best XI is and for all the modern bullshit about football being a squad game you MUST know your best XI.
Bowyer’s Play Off winning side
Philips
Djiksteel - Bauer - Sarr - Purrington
Cullen - Bielek - Pratley - Aribo
Taylor - Grant/Parker
Powell’s League One Champions
Hamer
Solly - Morrison - Taylor/Cort - Wiggins
Green/Wagstaff - Hollands - Stephens - Jackson
BWP - Kermorgant
We can all name those sides off by heart, can’t we?
Why? Because the managers identified the best XI and got the maximum out of them.
Right now Adkins is guessing…and he is running out of time to get it right.
Completely agree with this. I don't think NA has a clue what our best X1, best formation or style is and if he doesn't then how can he expect the players to?
I'm no fan of Adkins, but if we had recruited decent match fit players by the end of July as he/we wanted he would have known by now.
His post match interview on CATV was a very clever dig/not dig at that.
To paraphrase he said I played exactly the same way in all bar one game last season, exactly the same way all through preseason, why did it take until deadline day to get the players.
The main question that still hasn't been answered this season.
Only some PR fluff on the website that skirts around the issues.
Because it doesn’t fit with the agenda that we have a heroic/stable owner who is leading us back to the big time.
Ergo it’s Adkins / the players / the groundsman / the fans / Doris the tea lady’s / cleaner of the Curbs stand toilets fault instead.
Robert Lee I thought was very good tonight on Charlton TV. Balanced with his 2 sons playing for opposing sides, but clearly wanting us to win AND knowing us much better than he did last season. Last season he felt like someone on to talk about the old days, whereas now he has plenty to offer about the current side.
I agree with his comment, that in normal circumstances a hard fought 1-1 at Gillingham would be a perfectly good result. After all last season we drew 1-1 at Priestfield and LOST 3-2 at The Valley, and Gillingham still have some decent players. It's the previous results this season which make it seem like a disappointment
I thought we were excellent in the first half, but that after Gillingham shaped their shape in the second, they rendered us far less effective. Whatever you might think of him as a person, Evans is a very good coach at this level, he saw the weakness in his side and did something about it. That short corner failing is frustrating, we made the same mistake twice on Saturday, and Gillingham clearly picked up on it.
Overall the starting 11 did well though. Not perfect, but a step in the right direction.
Just got home... this was my first game since the AFC Wimbledon cup match last month. I feel pretty comfortable in saying this is the worst Charlton side I’ve ever watched. The second half was so soul-destroying to witness, it killed the atmosphere in the away end stone dead - I’ve never known a more quiet Charlton away following.
I said it after the Sheffield Wednesday game but we are so bereft of movement or runs off the ball, it’s unreal. Gillingham, under Steve Evans, looked more incisive than us in possession at times ffs! I cannot believe Adkins watches our static set-up and thinks it will win matches. And we played with the intensity of a pre-season friendly as well. Shocking.
That was a much better display but being 1 up at HT was never going to be enough if they went up a gear and bombarded us. Morgan was excellent first half as well as CBT. Conor Washington's two missed chances cost us the 3 points but he took up good positions but couldn't execute the chances. Davison led the line well and still looks raw but does get shots off on target. Good save from the keeper in the 2nd half from Josh.
We had 60% possession, 18 shots and 6 on target. You guys who thought we were crap tonight might as well find a new team to support. Not sure we will be top 6 what ever team we put out.
At last a Left footed LB, hopefully it was noted he can overlap and put a ball into the box. CBT went past his full back and can put a ball into the box(as well as into the crowd)
Impossible to know out best 11 to start or the best 11 to finish but Lavelle was strong and with his older clone Pearce they battled away.
We are a long away from being top 6 but I wanted some pride in wearing the shirt and the skill shown in the first half means we should rise up the table but we have a long way to go to be higher than mid table.
On a plus side I bet £10 on lee scoring first half and another £10 bet on him scoring second half just logged onto Bob's lot and won £160.00 as apparently both paid out as 1st scorer and last scorer lol no idea how that works
Adkins is just throwing darts at a board now, isn’t he?
He is completely lost on what our best XI is and for all the modern bullshit about football being a squad game you MUST know your best XI.
Bowyer’s Play Off winning side
Philips
Djiksteel - Bauer - Sarr - Purrington
Cullen - Bielek - Pratley - Aribo
Taylor - Grant/Parker
Powell’s League One Champions
Hamer
Solly - Morrison - Taylor/Cort - Wiggins
Green/Wagstaff - Hollands - Stephens - Jackson
BWP - Kermorgant
We can all name those sides off by heart, can’t we?
Why? Because the managers identified the best XI and got the maximum out of them.
Right now Adkins is guessing…and he is running out of time to get it right.
Completely agree with this. I don't think NA has a clue what our best X1, best formation or style is and if he doesn't then how can he expect the players to?
I'm no fan of Adkins, but if we had recruited decent match fit players by the end of July as he/we wanted he would have known by now.
His post match interview on CATV was a very clever dig/not dig at that.
To paraphrase he said I played exactly the same way in all bar one game last season, exactly the same way all through preseason, why did it take until deadline day to get the players.
The main question that still hasn't been answered this season.
Only some PR fluff on the website that skirts around the issues.
Because it doesn’t fit with the agenda that we have a heroic/stable owner who is leading us back to the big time.
Ergo it’s Adkins / the players / the groundsman / the fans / Doris the tea lady’s / cleaner of the Curbs stand toilets fault instead.
Poor ole Doris, she’s gets a ton of stick on here.
An improvement of sorts but putting it in perspective we hung on for a draw against a team that is likely to be in the bottom half of the table.Reasonable first half but under the cosh for most of the second It seems that whatever team is out out at the moment we are never going to be more than mediocre and with the individual talent available surely this is down to poor coaching and organisation,hence the Gillingham equaliser.That must be the fault of the manager and coaches which means that they should all be replaced .I have been watching Charlton for 65 years andI am struggling to remember a worse Charlton team
That was a much better display but being 1 up at HT was never going to be enough if they went up a gear and bombarded us. Morgan was excellent first half as well as CBT. Conor Washington's two missed chances cost us the 3 points but he took up good positions but couldn't execute the chances. Davison led the line well and still looks raw but does get shots off on target. Good save from the keeper in the 2nd half from Josh.
We had 60% possession, 18 shots and 6 on target. You guys who thought we were crap tonight might as well find a new team to support. Not sure we will be top 6 what ever team we put out.
At last a Left footed LB, hopefully it was noted he can overlap and put a ball into the box. CBT went past his full back and can put a ball into the box(as well as into the crowd)
Impossible to know out best 11 to start or the best 11 to finish but Lavelle was strong and with his older clone Pearce they battled away.
We are a long away from being top 6 but I wanted some pride in wearing the shirt and the skill shown in the first half means we should rise up the table but we have a long way to go to be higher than mid table.
If Washington had buried the one on one chance if the first half it would have been game over. Why are we so crap when clean through with only the keeper to beat, my money is on the keeper every time.
Finally got let into the station & now on the train home.
Thought we played well first half (probably the best I've seen but I wasn't at the Crewe match) but we really need to put games to bed. Only time we've scored twice in a game we've won ........so what does that tell you. Washington's chance was down the other end so couldnt really see what happened but by all accounts he should have buried it. And there's the rub. Go in 2-0 up and probably come away with 3 points.
2nd half was a different kettle of fish. Our passing stopped & we reverted to long balls again when the defenders had had enough of it. Although they hit the post & could have gone 2-1 up we had 2 glorious chances. I was right behind Davisons shot & thought it had gone in. Also Leko was unlucky after a mazy run put him into the box but a defender just got a toe to it otherwise he could have scored.
Plenty of positives - CBT, Lee and the returning Purrington. Also thought Leko looked sharp & wasnt afraid to run with the ball. Still doubt have enough in midfield to take a game by the scruff of the neck - perhaps Gilbey is the missing cog.
Still dont think we will get relegated but a top 6 finish is way way off. Adkins is probably not the man but who else is out there ? I really wouldnt want to throw JJ or Euell into the deep end so I would give Adkins until the International break & see where we are then. If he's managed to get 6 or 7 points by then then let's see where we are by xmas. However, anything less than 2 wins out if those 3 games he'll have to walk......and keep walking.
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Not sure if our heads went down with us us not getting that second goal when we were on top but second half was much poorer, thought a draw was a fair result in the end as they probably edged the second half.
If we can replicate that first half display that's definitely something I can get behind, even though the result wasn't what we wanted tonight at least there were elements of the performance to like. For most of the games this season our results have been poor as have our performances so I'll count tonight as progress in my eyes.
I thought NA's interview post match was fair, certainly didn't feel like he was throwing the recruitment team under the bus from what I heard just making a valid point that it'll take longer for the team to gel given we made a lot of late signings. In NA's defence he said from minute one he wanted a squad in place for pre-season, when it became clear that wasn't going to happen he rolled with it but said it would present challenges which is all he repeated tonight. Certainly didn't get the impression he was trying to make a point of it.
Only some PR fluff on the website that skirts around the issues.
Quite a lot of positives, but my brief comment for now is without the now legendary lumping it up to Stockley things were better and we played more football.
This is more like treading water than swimming for the shore though.
Ergo it’s Adkins / the players / the groundsman / the fans / Doris the tea lady’s / cleaner of the Curbs stand toilets fault instead.
I agree with his comment, that in normal circumstances a hard fought 1-1 at Gillingham would be a perfectly good result. After all last season we drew 1-1 at Priestfield and LOST 3-2 at The Valley, and Gillingham still have some decent players. It's the previous results this season which make it seem like a disappointment
I thought we were excellent in the first half, but that after Gillingham shaped their shape in the second, they rendered us far less effective. Whatever you might think of him as a person, Evans is a very good coach at this level, he saw the weakness in his side and did something about it. That short corner failing is frustrating, we made the same mistake twice on Saturday, and Gillingham clearly picked up on it.
Overall the starting 11 did well though. Not perfect, but a step in the right direction.
White flag 2nd half.
Davidson - weak/didn’t hold anything up and didn’t win a single header - not sure why everyone loving him.
I said it after the Sheffield Wednesday game but we are so bereft of movement or runs off the ball, it’s unreal. Gillingham, under Steve Evans, looked more incisive than us in possession at times ffs! I cannot believe Adkins watches our static set-up and thinks it will win matches. And we played with the intensity of a pre-season friendly as well. Shocking.
Morgan was excellent first half as well as CBT. Conor Washington's two missed chances cost us the 3 points but he took up good positions but couldn't execute the chances. Davison led the line well and still looks raw but does get shots off on target. Good save from the keeper in the 2nd half from Josh.
We had 60% possession, 18 shots and 6 on target. You guys who thought we were crap tonight might as well find a new team to support. Not sure we will be top 6 what ever team we put out.
At last a Left footed LB, hopefully it was noted he can overlap and put a ball into the box. CBT went past his full back and can put a ball into the box(as well as into the crowd)
Impossible to know out best 11 to start or the best 11 to finish but Lavelle was strong and with his older clone Pearce they battled away.
We are a long away from being top 6 but I wanted some pride in wearing the shirt and the skill shown in the first half means we should rise up the table but we have a long way to go to be higher than mid table.
It seems that whatever team is out out at the moment we are never going to be more than mediocre and with the individual talent available surely this is down to poor coaching and organisation,hence the Gillingham equaliser.That must be the fault of the manager and coaches which means that they should all be replaced .I have been watching Charlton for 65 years andI am struggling to remember a worse Charlton team
Need further improvement on Saturday. And we need to start winning games pronto.
Thought we played well first half (probably the best I've seen but I wasn't at the Crewe match) but we really need to put games to bed. Only time we've scored twice in a game we've won ........so what does that tell you. Washington's chance was down the other end so couldnt really see what happened but by all accounts he should have buried it. And there's the rub. Go in 2-0 up and probably come away with 3 points.
2nd half was a different kettle of fish. Our passing stopped & we reverted to long balls again when the defenders had had enough of it. Although they hit the post & could have gone 2-1 up we had 2 glorious chances. I was right behind Davisons shot & thought it had gone in. Also Leko was unlucky after a mazy run put him into the box but a defender just got a toe to it otherwise he could have scored.
Plenty of positives - CBT, Lee and the returning Purrington. Also thought Leko looked sharp & wasnt afraid to run with the ball. Still doubt have enough in midfield to take a game by the scruff of the neck - perhaps Gilbey is the missing cog.
Still dont think we will get relegated but a top 6 finish is way way off. Adkins is probably not the man but who else is out there ? I really wouldnt want to throw JJ or Euell into the deep end so I would give Adkins until the International break & see where we are then. If he's managed to get 6 or 7 points by then then let's see where we are by xmas. However, anything less than 2 wins out if those 3 games he'll have to walk......and keep walking.
In the second half Gillingham changed formation to remove the space CBT had had in the first half.