Not saying Lord Llewelyn wants the job, but surely he would be ahead of Emma Hayes as much as I do like her as a pundit.
Emma Hayes has a much better job and got to the Champions League final last year and has some of the best players in woman's football. Why would she leave Chelsea women to come to Cafc in the 3rd tier with all the negativity about the team plus the burden of being a female manager in a man's world of the EFL.
Hayes was mentioned for the Wimbledon men's team last season and she felt insulted.
She can swear like a trooper and wouldn't be intimated by the passe comments.
* Casey Stoney is a top coach and ex Charlton player and will make a top manager but why would she want to drop down to manage average players in the men's game
She was also extremely insulted when the press linked her to the Wimbledon job last season.
Edit: that will learn me to read the whole post before replying.....
Not saying Lord Llewelyn wants the job, but surely he would be ahead of Emma Hayes as much as I do like her as a pundit.
I dunno, Emma Hayes is a current manager, so that would reduce her odds even if it's still incredibly unlikely
But not as unlikely as former Gillingham and Welling boss Steve Lovell at 20-1!
Paul Tisdale (16-1) shows how fortunes can change. 3 years ago he was the brilliant Exeter manager, tipped for a bigger club. 2 failures later he's yesterday's man
People here wanting to give curbs a shot but moaning about Adkins being a dinosaur and his football not exactly being entertaining, remind me again… did we play expansive football when curbs was manager ?? His football will be more outdated than Adkins, hasn’t he been out the game for over 10 years? Move on
I don't think curbs returning would help anyone. Let him continue enjoying retirement. He deserves the peace.
I do think "outdated" is just in reference to modern day player attitudes. Outdated term is an unfair assumption on older managers. Curbs would be rusty, but he wouldn't be tactically inept.
Bit of a random reflection, but I remember watching that crappy Tottenham documentary from a year or so ago.
Jose mourinho calls deli ali into his office...and he is trying to help him.
JM has won 3 champions leagues, loads of league titles and cups in 4 european countries.
Ali walks in...body language and tone suggested he wasn't impressed...wasn't interested, wasn't really listening, and simply just didn't give a shit. You would expect that behaviour from a bored employee at a supermarket, office, call centre or something. Not a professional footballer.
Go back to 2004/5....every player in the Chelsea dressing room thought the world of JM and they followed his every word. All looked up to him.
Having listened to TS interview I reckon he'll stick with JJ for the foreseeable. JJ will then get a "new manager bounce" for a few games which will convince TS to keep him in situ until the end of the season - which will culminate in relegation to League 2.
Having listened to TS interview I reckon he'll stick with JJ for the foreseeable. JJ will then get a "new manager bounce" for a few games which will convince TS to keep him in situ until the end of the season - which will culminate in relegation to League 2.
Not saying Lord Llewelyn wants the job, but surely he would be ahead of Emma Hayes as much as I do like her as a pundit.
Emma Hayes has a much better job and got to the Champions League final last year and has some of the best players in woman's football. Why would she leave Chelsea women to come to Cafc in the 3rd tier with all the negativity about the team plus the burden of being a female manager in a man's world of the EFL.
Hayes was mentioned for the Wimbledon men's team last season and she felt insulted.
She can swear like a trooper and wouldn't be intimated by the passe comments.
* Casey Stoney is a top coach and ex Charlton player and will make a top manager but why would she want to drop down to manage average players in the men's game
I was always of the opinion that a woman managing a men's professional team just wouldnt work but as we dont have a single man in our current squad ... This might actually be an astute managerial selection!
I was always of the opinion that a woman managing a men's professional team just wouldnt work but as we dont have a single man in our current squad ... This might actually be an astute managerial selection!
I was always of the opinion that a woman managing a men's professional team just wouldnt work but as we dont have a single man in our current squad ... This might actually be an astute managerial selection!
Who realistically would people want other than Jacko here?
(and no stupid suggestions like Howe/Wilder etc)
Mike Duff | Michael Beale | Andy Hughes, or some other promising U23 Manager we dont know about.
I wouldnt be opposed to a Danish Manager provided they're not some completely unknown... e.g. Got to remember that Thomas Frank was Manager of Brondby for three years before he came over to England.
Emma Hayes, maybe - I get why she'd find a League One team insulting but unfortunately there hasnt been a Female Manager in the Mens game, it might be wrong but it does feel like she'd need to prove herself first a little bit... Trouble is its a big risk, and dont think we can overly afford that big of a risk at the moment.
I'm curious as to why the majority of people think Jackson will be so bad?
Think it boils down to the fact that he's part of the coaching set-up that has seen the worst Charlton side most of us have ever seen. How big a part he played in it is anyone's guess.
I'm curious as to why the majority of people think Jackson will be so bad?
Think it boils down to the fact that he's part of the coaching set-up that has seen the worst Charlton side most of us have ever seen. How big a part he played in it is anyone's guess.
Here’s a spin on it. He was also the assistant manager when we got promoted out of this league and was the assistant manager when we got relegated after putting up a very good fight in very bad off field conditions.
If he has learnt from the good and bad, all witnessed whilst being part of our coaching set up, then this could be a great appointment
I'm curious as to why the majority of people think Jackson will be so bad?
Think it boils down to the fact that he's part of the coaching set-up that has seen the worst Charlton side most of us have ever seen. How big a part he played in it is anyone's guess.
Here’s a spin on it. He was also the assistant manager when we got promoted out of this league and was the assistant manager when we got relegated after putting up a very good fight in very bad off field conditions.
If he has learnt from the good and bad, all witnessed whilst being part of our coaching set up, then this could be a great appointment
We could back and forth all day though, because he was also part of the coaching set up that saw us win 1 in 13 or whatever towards the end of Bowyer's reign.
Not saying I agree with either stance, just think that's why some fans are sceptical.
I'm curious as to why the majority of people think Jackson will be so bad?
Think it boils down to the fact that he's part of the coaching set-up that has seen the worst Charlton side most of us have ever seen. How big a part he played in it is anyone's guess.
Its a fair point but Bowyer was assistant to Robinson when we were fairly dire and he turned it round pretty quickly. Do assistant managers really have that much of a say in how the team is set up? I genuinely have no idea!
Who realistically would people want other than Jacko here?
(and no stupid suggestions like Howe/Wilder etc)
Mike Duff | Michael Beale | Andy Hughes, or some other promising U23 Manager we dont know about.
I wouldnt be opposed to a Danish Manager provided they're not some completely unknown... e.g. Got to remember that Thomas Frank was Manager of Brondby for three years before he came over to England.
Emma Hayes, maybe - I get why she'd find a League One team insulting but unfortunately there hasnt been a Female Manager in the Mens game, it might be wrong but it does feel like she'd need to prove herself first a little bit... Trouble is its a big risk, and dont think we can overly afford that big of a risk at the moment.
I certainly don't think we need the circus that would accompany Emma Hayes, however good she might be
I'm curious as to why the majority of people think Jackson will be so bad?
Think it boils down to the fact that he's part of the coaching set-up that has seen the worst Charlton side most of us have ever seen. How big a part he played in it is anyone's guess.
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Edit: that will learn me to read the whole post before replying.....
But not as unlikely as former Gillingham and Welling boss Steve Lovell at 20-1!
Paul Tisdale (16-1) shows how fortunes can change. 3 years ago he was the brilliant Exeter manager, tipped for a bigger club. 2 failures later he's yesterday's man
I don't think curbs returning would help anyone. Let him continue enjoying retirement. He deserves the peace.
I do think "outdated" is just in reference to modern day player attitudes. Outdated term is an unfair assumption on older managers. Curbs would be rusty, but he wouldn't be tactically inept.
Bit of a random reflection, but I remember watching that crappy Tottenham documentary from a year or so ago.
Jose mourinho calls deli ali into his office...and he is trying to help him.
JM has won 3 champions leagues, loads of league titles and cups in 4 european countries.
Ali walks in...body language and tone suggested he wasn't impressed...wasn't interested, wasn't really listening, and simply just didn't give a shit.
You would expect that behaviour from a bored employee at a supermarket, office, call centre or something. Not a professional footballer.
Go back to 2004/5....every player in the Chelsea dressing room thought the world of JM and they followed his every word. All looked up to him.
Let's give him our full support, reset expectation on the players and re-assess in 10 games.
I have a fear it won't work out, but at least it will have been tried and that's the least Jacko deserves after 11 years at our nightmare of a club 🤣
(and no stupid suggestions like Howe/Wilder etc)
Maybe the likes of Michael Beale/Ryan Lowe type (though not necessarily them!) over another Adkins/Mick Mccarthy type.
We need a big freshen up and something exciting for the players to work with.
Hopefully Jackson does the business though (although I must admit I'm not that confident).
I wouldnt be opposed to a Danish Manager provided they're not some completely unknown... e.g. Got to remember that Thomas Frank was Manager of Brondby for three years before he came over to England.
Emma Hayes, maybe - I get why she'd find a League One team insulting but unfortunately there hasnt been a Female Manager in the Mens game, it might be wrong but it does feel like she'd need to prove herself first a little bit... Trouble is its a big risk, and dont think we can overly afford that big of a risk at the moment.
If he's the sole reason for those two things being bad this season then yeah it might not be an improvement.
But we equally dont know if he's just relaying Adkins instructions.
Not saying I agree with either stance, just think that's why some fans are sceptical.