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Next Manager??
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Biggest problem for me is TS, in Atkins, went with someone who matched his general positivity.
Given he is unlikely to have known much if anything about him, he will have been introduced to him by, most likely, Roddy who saw a kindred spirit fit between the two.
Its no good then if you fill up the team with players the manager didn't want. That is self evident with most of the summer signings.
We need a manager that does not try to spin positivity when clearly behind the scenes are not good. We need a manager who can make a silk purse out of a sows ear.
If he will do it, it has to be Curbs with Jacko as no 2.
I don't buy the "we must look forward not back" line.
Our club will drop into the fourth tier for the first time in our history if TS does not get this right. We need someone who has done it before. Someone who will be able to engender the spirit of the club and get them pulling together.0 -
I wouldn't presume to know. I like how the AFC Wimbledon manager sets his team up, and unlike Adkins responds tactically in matches with simple effective changes. But I wouldn't want him mid season. Now we need all our players in who fight, and Curbs who'll not be a prat playing 3 midfielders against 6: And no playing CBT and Leko who are useless defenders Nige doesn't help the midfield at all.
Hopefully someone identifies a near complete energetic 24-25 year old midfielder too. The next Kinsella please Curbs.0 -
I fancy either of the two permutations mentioned already:
1. Curbs caretaker until the end of the season with JJ asst.
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2. Give Wilder and his backroom team the reigns.
I can't see either allowing their teams to ship so many terrible goals as the current shambles.
I cannot fathom why TS is allowing this to continue. Losing 8 games by the end of the season is a sign you are not good enough in this division..to have lost that many games by October!
Id like to see Roddy and NA leave the club.1 -
Steve Bruce! With his 8million quid pay out he could buy us some proper players in the transfer window!!
J/k
Fiona Bruce has more chance!3 -
Does anybody really expect TS to bin his 4 man black box set-up at the first sign of trouble?
I think he has been forced into a decision on Adkins, but I doubt the basic set-up will be changed, yet.
Why in your wildest dreams would anybody expect the likes of Chris Wilder to be attracted to us?7 -
One interview in which he said he wants a PL job, expects a Championship job and maybe would consider a League One job if it was a special case where the club were looking to invest to go straight through The Championship.Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:Does anybody really expect TS to bin his 4 man black box set-up at the first sign of trouble?
I think he has been forced into a decision on Adkins, but I doubt the basic set-up will be changed, yet.
Why in your wildest dreams would anybody expect the likes of Chris Wilder to be attracted to us?
I didn't see him mention a relegation battle in League One....3 -
CL When it gets announced Adkins is still in post:
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ValleyOfTears said:Steve Bruce! With his 8million quid pay out he could buy us some proper players in the transfer window!!
J/k
Fiona Bruce has more chance!
We will be getting news at 10.2 -
Because the current crop of players are clearly taking the piss. If they worked harder collectively and in an organised way, they would start to dominate matches rather than be chasing matches. When you are in crisis (which we are) then you have to stop conceding goals first and you do that by working harder to close people down, regain your shape and throw your bodies in the way when needed.Leuth said:
Why is it that at times like these, so many people shit the bed and call for a tactical dinosaur just because he's seen as hard, or somethingSimonsen said:I'm not saying who I think will get the job but these are the names I'd be happy with....
Chris Wilder or Tony Pulis....people who won't take any shit from poor players. Experienced, plain speakers who can get the best out of what they have and can build teams.
Our biggest problem is being 3rd Division and seemingly being short of cash. Being bottom of the league isn't so much of a problem, as it makes it easier for someone to come in and make a visible impact.
And how is Chris Wilder a tactical dinosaur? The man who used over-lapping centre-backs in The Championship.
And Tony Pulis would definitely sort out the defensive side and make us more of a threat from set-pieces. It might not be pretty but neither is losing 2-3 at home to Accrington. Hands-up who would prefer a shitty 1-0 win right now?
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Obviously I meant Pulis not Wilder, and if you think appointing Pulis would automatically mean winning loads of games 1-0 then you're in for a rude surprise. Here's how his last job went:
On 28 December 2020, Pulis was sacked as Wednesday manager after having secured just one victory from ten league games.[130]
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As Curbs has said we need to stop the rot and make ourselves hard to beat. Organise the defensive shape, so that everyone (as in all 11 players) know their roles.Simonsen said:
Because the current crop of players are clearly taking the piss. If they worked harder collectively and in an organised way, they would start to dominate matches rather than be chasing matches. When you are in crisis (which we are) then you have to stop conceding goals first and you do that by working harder to close people down, regain your shape and throw your bodies in the way when needed.Leuth said:
Why is it that at times like these, so many people shit the bed and call for a tactical dinosaur just because he's seen as hard, or somethingSimonsen said:I'm not saying who I think will get the job but these are the names I'd be happy with....
Chris Wilder or Tony Pulis....people who won't take any shit from poor players. Experienced, plain speakers who can get the best out of what they have and can build teams.
Our biggest problem is being 3rd Division and seemingly being short of cash. Being bottom of the league isn't so much of a problem, as it makes it easier for someone to come in and make a visible impact.
And how is Chris Wilder a tactical dinosaur? The man who used over-lapping centre-backs in The Championship.
And Tony Pulis would definitely sort out the defensive side and make us more of a threat from set-pieces. It might not be pretty but neither is losing 2-3 at home to Accrington. Hands-up who would prefer a shitty 1-0 win right now?
I'd like a young, progressive coach, but I'm not sure now is the right time, as we're sadly in a relegation scrap at the moment1 -
soapboxsam said:ValleyOfTears said:Steve Bruce! With his 8million quid pay out he could buy us some proper players in the transfer window!!
J/k
Fiona Bruce has more chance!
We will be getting news at 10.
Play it again Sam.0 -
TS likes cheap solutions - so it will probably be JJ1
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Wilder was asking for £4m a year at Sheffield United, the idea he’ll come is for the birds1
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I don't think it is out of the question that we appoint a new manager before Saturday. It sounds as if there is lots happening in the background.5
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That's my take on it, I just said on another thread I bet nobody at The Valley today is working on a new manager spread sheet.masicat said:TS likes cheap solutions - so it will probably be JJ0 -
We’ve got 33 games left, we don’t need to play like we’re in a relegation scrap. We need the players to show confidence and belief. A Pulis type manager isn’t necessarily the way to do that. Does that approach even work with young players today?killerandflash said:
As Curbs has said we need to stop the rot and make ourselves hard to beat. Organise the defensive shape, so that everyone (as in all 11 players) know their roles.Simonsen said:
Because the current crop of players are clearly taking the piss. If they worked harder collectively and in an organised way, they would start to dominate matches rather than be chasing matches. When you are in crisis (which we are) then you have to stop conceding goals first and you do that by working harder to close people down, regain your shape and throw your bodies in the way when needed.Leuth said:
Why is it that at times like these, so many people shit the bed and call for a tactical dinosaur just because he's seen as hard, or somethingSimonsen said:I'm not saying who I think will get the job but these are the names I'd be happy with....
Chris Wilder or Tony Pulis....people who won't take any shit from poor players. Experienced, plain speakers who can get the best out of what they have and can build teams.
Our biggest problem is being 3rd Division and seemingly being short of cash. Being bottom of the league isn't so much of a problem, as it makes it easier for someone to come in and make a visible impact.
And how is Chris Wilder a tactical dinosaur? The man who used over-lapping centre-backs in The Championship.
And Tony Pulis would definitely sort out the defensive side and make us more of a threat from set-pieces. It might not be pretty but neither is losing 2-3 at home to Accrington. Hands-up who would prefer a shitty 1-0 win right now?
I'd like a young, progressive coach, but I'm not sure now is the right time, as we're sadly in a relegation scrap at the moment1 -
Turun Palloseura would probably want compensation thoughmasicat said:TS likes cheap solutions - so it will probably be JJ0 -
Michael Laudrup anyone?1
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Interesting. Just manager related?Covered_End_Lad said:I don't think it is out of the question that we appoint a new manager before Saturday. It sounds as if there is lots happening in the background.2 - Sponsored links:
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Hear Hayden Mullins is finally coming home.4
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This is very expensive- paying NA off-2 yrs of contract left-?? ???£400k I'm guessing
I expect TS to look for young talent from lower leagues- unproven. Just hope they are strong on defending.
Got to say NA was decent bloke but it din't work out fast enough- and was the recruitment right?....0 -
Unfortunately Sandgaard has seen how many LOLs Chris Wilder posts on here get, which means he won't be our next manager.3
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Thomas has confirmed they are in no rush to look for a new manager and that JJ will get a fair crack to see what he can do.2
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This will not end well. We need a very experienced manager and TS has gone cheap. Poor JJ, better to
inherit a team in 10th place than this. I bet Pearce is back in at Sunderland.4 -
Would actually love to see someone verbally/physically abuse our players. Probably wouldn't yield results on the pitch, but seeing Chris Gunter cry would be class.Leuth said:We need a manager who will verbally and physically abuse our players! Someone who will yell at them if we lose and yell at them if we win! Someone who loves a long throw!8 -
I hope that whoever comes in can sort out the defence, and that's my worry with JJ, who has apparently been the defensive coach.Apart from that run of clean sheets with Innis and Famewo last season, our defence has been pretty shambolic for a long time. This is the crux our problems, as it was for most of last season and even the season before with so many goals caused as a result of defensive errors.So, I'm very much in favour of a former defender as our new manager or at least first team coach.0
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I have no idea who our next manager should be. But whoever it is, they should be able to bring in their own back-room team and be able to pick their own players5
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If Jacko doesn't prove himself for more games then in an ideal world: Michael Beale, Michael Flynn or Alex Neil0
