I think the fitness argument definitely holds some water. The team have often looked like they are blowing out of their arses after 30 minutes of the first half and 15 minutes of the second.
I think a bit too much was made of the lack of match fitness anyway - the way you were talking you'd think all our new signings had spent all summer sat on the coach eating junk food when most of them had been training somewhere for pre-season.
Despite that. Adkins said before Lincoln he was happy with where the squad was at and the players could now go 90 minutes Saturday-Tuesday. Well, for the last 30 minutes they were chasing shadows and looked spent again. It's the first time that had me really questioning what our conditioning work is like in training. It didn't look like they weren't fit enough to compete. Yes they also lacked quality in that game but, in particular, I thought Lincoln just looked fitter and stronger. It was similar on Tuesday although to be fair they did finally finish a game fairly strongly.
I don't know if that is because Adkins was not placing enough emphasis on fitness training, or if it issue lies elsewhere, but if I was Jacko I would be working hard on the players stamina and, for the moment, picking teams who are going to battle for the points.
OK folks, one last time and then we can all move on.
My deepest sympathies and condolences to the 57 arseholes that LOLd me back in March when I pointed out that Adkins was an “awful appointment.”
Also in my thoughts and prayers are the jokers that tied themselves in knots trying to convince people that his 33% win rate at Hull was not an abject failure.
To be fair though compared to this season with us - win ratio of 15.3% - his time at Hull was a raging success.
After Jacko won that game vs Bristol Rovers we should have given him the job till the end of the season to see how he went, there was really nothing to lose.
Now there very much is.
I'd like to say a special thank you to Ormiston Addick for downgrading his personal abuse of Charlton fans from twats to arseholes. I'm sure the 57 will be greatly comforted.
JJ is the man for this moment. He certainly cannot do any worse but at least he will have the fans and the team believing in him and what Adkins had in management experience Johnny Jackson has in leadership experience and it’s a leader that we need right now. I believe he cares about Charlton and he’s passionate about success on the pitch more than his predecessor. That’s enough right now regardless of what happens on Saturday.
OK folks, one last time and then we can all move on.
My deepest sympathies and condolences to the 57 arseholes that LOLd me back in March when I pointed out that Adkins was an “awful appointment.”
Also in my thoughts and prayers are the jokers that tied themselves in knots trying to convince people that his 33% win rate at Hull was not an abject failure.
To be fair though compared to this season with us - win ratio of 15.3% - his time at Hull was a raging success.
After Jacko won that game vs Bristol Rovers we should have given him the job till the end of the season to see how he went, there was really nothing to lose.
Now there very much is.
I'd like to say a special thank you to Ormiston Addick for downgrading his personal abuse of Charlton fans from twats to arseholes. I'm sure the 57 will be greatly comforted.
Out of interest what was the post above @Ormiston_Addick 's one on March 18th ? It got more of a reaction than his did.
OK folks, one last time and then we can all move on.
My deepest sympathies and condolences to the 57 arseholes that LOLd me back in March when I pointed out that Adkins was an “awful appointment.”
Also in my thoughts and prayers are the jokers that tied themselves in knots trying to convince people that his 33% win rate at Hull was not an abject failure.
To be fair though compared to this season with us - win ratio of 15.3% - his time at Hull was a raging success.
After Jacko won that game vs Bristol Rovers we should have given him the job till the end of the season to see how he went, there was really nothing to lose.
Now there very much is.
I'd like to say a special thank you to Ormiston Addick for downgrading his personal abuse of Charlton fans from twats to arseholes. I'm sure the 57 will be greatly comforted.
Out of interest what was the post above @Ormiston_Addick 's one on March 18th ? It got more of a reaction than his did.
Here you go @miserableoldgit this was the post you're wondering about.
Jackson makes complete sense at the moment as this isn't about Sandgaard's 5 year plan this is just about avoiding absolute disaster. I have no idea how good a manager he is, but he's clearly respected, and will probably get a short-term bounce from the players and to be honest at this stage, we can't ask for anything more than that.
The problem would be a bit later down the line is if he's given a long-term contract for just not being as shit as Adkins, but if he just picks us up out of a relegation battle down to League f*cking Two, we can worry about that later.
It's a bit of a cop out in a way, but having a fan favourite in charge so the crowd is a bit less toxic for our important home games coming up is a good thing (not saying fans chanting wanting Adkins out is bad at all, needed to be done)
OK folks, one last time and then we can all move on.
My deepest sympathies and condolences to the 57 arseholes that LOLd me back in March when I pointed out that Adkins was an “awful appointment.”
Also in my thoughts and prayers are the jokers that tied themselves in knots trying to convince people that his 33% win rate at Hull was not an abject failure.
To be fair though compared to this season with us - win ratio of 15.3% - his time at Hull was a raging success.
After Jacko won that game vs Bristol Rovers we should have given him the job till the end of the season to see how he went, there was really nothing to lose.
To all thos that are saying JJ was already part of the coaching team and so won’t make much of an impact or difference, remember when Bows first took over from Robbo? Wasn’t it the same comments , but he changed things completly and got a reaction I’m sure Jacko can do the same
I still wonder what would have happened if Lewis Page hadn't had scored that screamer in Bows first game in charge.
I think the fitness argument is horseshit. We play an attacking style, but never dominate possession. When we couldn't rotate the first few matches we may have dropped off towards the end, but we'd lost the initiative in the first half. Then in the second half we'd actually improve in terms of possession %.
When the squad was full, he then makes late shit subs after the players he very recently said were not fit are left on for 75-80 mins: This is all very well if they're dominating but we didn't, we often recently let in goals second half. It is crap management, and illogical. Bring your impact players who aren't 'fit' on in the second half, after you've strangled the match. Even better don't play 3-4 of them together if they can't bloody tackle. Simply awful.
I do have a slight concern that Jacko is just a little too close to the players. He’s a diamond bloke but as manager he can’t be friends with any of them. He doesn’t have to be a tyrant or bully but he has to be the boss and everyone needs to want to stay on his right side. Curbs was so successful because he was the boss. Players didn’t mess him around and if they did they knew about it. I believe it helped that Curbs was fastidious in his new signings being the right type. I’m not sure JJ is going to get that level of autonomy or perhaps hasn’t really got that hard streak in him. I guess we’ll see soon enough.
Although don't forget both Curbs and Gritty were still players when they were appointed Joint Player-Managers.
I wish people would stop going on about how Adkins is decent man.
He kicked my dog when he was out walking and said "brilliant".
I saw the incident. Your dog went down far too easily, when he was barely touched. It's a contact sport, it's a man's game, the standard of referees is terrible etc
Plus your dog was well unfit, and nowhere near aggressive enough.
I remember a time when a good manager could watch a game and tell which players were doing well, which players were not, which players were fit and which ones were totally knackered. Now it seems we have to wait for the gps data to hit an ipad, so that a scientist can analyse it before any decisions are made. Indeed even Sandgaard reckoned we need to run more miles in his Talksport interview.
Towards the end of my working life my boss installed a gps tracker in my van and started questioning my positioning, timings locations and speed. The only thing that actually improved was the sharpness of my tongue as I returned his bollox with interest. I mean, Bobby Moore didn't run miles and miles all over the pitch did he? He just got the job done effectively and as I once told my boss I don't need to work harder because I'm working smarter.
Need to try something different, but no time to work on it. That means back to basics and 442, at least for Saturday, because all the players will know how to play it.
CM
Matthews Lavelle Pearce Purrington
Leko Dobson Arter Gilbey
Washington Stockley
Pick the best players we can while prioritising those with the character for the fight. Don't try and persist with two wingers, play a Curbs style lopsided 442 with the 3 centre mids. Gilbey edging out Lee for the wide centre mid role. Could consider swapping Lee for Washington too. Leko to provide the spark, I thought he was good on Tuesday and was amazed to read him getting slated by some on here.
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Enough's enough - Jackson OUT!
Jaiyesimi - Gilbey - Arter - B.Taylor
Henderson, Gunter, Pearce, Morgan, Watson, Leko, Davison
That'd be my pick. If DJ isn't doing it, easy to rotate him with Leko and Morgan has also done a job from LM before now.
It got more of a reaction than his did.
Here you go @miserableoldgit this was the post you're wondering about.
The problem would be a bit later down the line is if he's given a long-term contract for just not being as shit as Adkins, but if he just picks us up out of a relegation battle down to League f*cking Two, we can worry about that later.
It's a bit of a cop out in a way, but having a fan favourite in charge so the crowd is a bit less toxic for our important home games coming up is a good thing (not saying fans chanting wanting Adkins out is bad at all, needed to be done)
Leko - Morgan - Watson - Gilbey - B.Taylor
Washy - Stocks
3-6-1 if people remain concerned our midfield will get overrun.
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Lavelle Famewo Pearce Purrington
Gilbey Arter Dobson Leko
Washington
Davison
Wash free to make runs anywhere he likes, playing off of Davison. Dropping back to make 5 in the midfield without the ball.
When the squad was full, he then makes late shit subs after the players he very recently said were not fit are left on for 75-80 mins: This is all very well if they're dominating but we didn't, we often recently let in goals second half. It is crap management, and illogical. Bring your impact players who aren't 'fit' on in the second half, after you've strangled the match. Even better don't play 3-4 of them together if they can't bloody tackle. Simply awful.
Towards the end of my working life my boss installed a gps tracker in my van and started questioning my positioning, timings locations and speed. The only thing that actually improved was the sharpness of my tongue as I returned his bollox with interest. I mean, Bobby Moore didn't run miles and miles all over the pitch did he? He just got the job done effectively and as I once told my boss I don't need to work harder because I'm working smarter.
(... he didn't believe me either
And all your mates are GREEN ARMY!
To be fair, they haven't really rubbed my nose in it.
More like, "WTF is going on at your club? I had them down as a good bet for promotion."
Mind you, we go to Argyle in a few weeks. Might be a bit different then!
After all the tactical ineptness this season, all along you were the mastermind?
And you let poor Nigel take the blame!