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Post-match Thread: Charlton Athletic vs Doncaster Rovers | Saturday 30th October 2021
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Took the words out of my mouth!!, nobody really new how things would pan out with jacko. Enjoy the upturn and if you want to dig people out, go on the millwall site. Not have a pop at your own!!. Easy to say I told you so after the fact.Croydon said:
Fuck me. Second win in a row and your first thought (both times) has been to come on here and give a sarcy comment. Why don't you just enjoy the win?cafctom said:“But Jackson’s the defensive coach. I don’t want him in control of the side!!!”
Does every club such petty fans in their fanbase or is just us?1 -
Started to notice in the last few games that Gilbey does have quite a deceptive pace about him. He can get down the line and beat a man better than I’d realised.25
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Told you so…😉cafctom said:Started to notice in the last few games that Gilbey does have quite a deceptive pace about him. He can get down the line and beat a man better than I’d realised.4 -
I'm a bit gutted tbh as I had £5 on us winning 6-0 at 150-1 and with a bit more effort they could have brought it home 😂😂
Being serious though another great performance showing intent and drive. Will be gutted if Lee goes back in January, Dobson was fantastic. No complaints on any front from me. On to Tuesday we go2 -
Very good game. Doncaster looked 10x worse than us at our worst but we still had to play our part.
Dobson was excellent, should have persisted with him rather than bombing him out for Watson but with only Morgan and Clare for creativity and Energy in those opening games, guess he was deemed the sacrifice.
We look a completely different side without playing any differently - patches of football with the odd long ball up top - except clearly, the players seem to understand the game plan now - getting close Stockley.0 -
Just to add Oggy....I thought his hold up play was great. Missed him doing that.Oggy Red said:
Another day though, Stockley may convert all those chances and walk away with the matchball.Southbank said:
Downside for me was Stockley, who should have had 3 or 4. Against better sides we will not get as many chances as we did today. Our lack of a natural goalscorer may cost us.
But generally speaking, strikers average scoring 1 goal in every 3 chances.
Another way to look at it, Stockley has scored in each of the last 3 consecutive games.
That's consistency - and it breeds confidence.2 -
Stockley's 3 game ban seemed to have been converted into 3 attempts-with-yer-head-goal-ban!
Really enjoyed that game. I sat in the West, Row B so some interesting takeaways that might not have been seen by others:
- JJ and Euell are very vocal and encouraging. They provide straightforward and clear instructions. Players listen to them, which shows they have a good connection. For example, a throw-in at 45+2 to be taken by Gunter. Pearce did his usual of dropping deep near to Macgillivray to receive the throw. JJ instructed him to push up past the thrower, else we're inviting pressure. Pearcy held his hands up in apology and moved up. We saw the half out without our usual self-imposed mistakes.
- JJ has spotted some basic mistakes made by NA and acted on them. Notice how we opted for 2 wingers and not a lop-sided 3 on the bench. Clare is more than a useful sub to bring on. We've scored 5 goals in 2 games and conceded 0 (against a "top" team and a below par team). That's not bad for a team who couldn't score and couldn't stop leaking goals.
- Stockley....when he scored, the ref came over to him after the celebrations and said "Wasn't that a free kick?" while retaking kick-off!
- Gunter must lack confidence or just be happy to get away with the minimum. Forwards go mad at his decision making, as he prefers to hoof it into touch or in the sky. He improved 2nd half.
- Gilbey and Dobson...we have 2 potential lung-busting powerhouses here.
- Everybody looks interested again. It's clear that NA didn't really have a fit with us sadly. From the interviews to imposed formation to subs.19 -
"They're part of the problem"
"He's the defensive coach"
"We need a total clear out"
2 wins don't make a great manager, but they do prove that Jacko and Jase are more than worthy of being given a chance.
7 wouldn't have flattered us. Such a nice feeling to to not have any desire to leave on 85 to beat the traffic.
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Highlights up on Sky https://www.skysports.com/football/charlton-athletic-vs-doncaster-rovers/report/4480712
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Through Dobson was top drawer today.Wherever there was a threat he turned up , intercepting tackling and releasing the ball.His tackle and pass for the Gilbey pen was sublime.6
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WOW, are they the same players that were crap the first dozen games.
Not a bad performance in anyone today, but for me Dobson was outstanding.
Keep it going Jacko,it’s been a magnificent first two games.11 -
Also proves, if Jacko and Euell piss anyone off, they will down tools on them aswell!!. Regards to 1st 3 statements, read above!!. And let me know where you got your crystal ball!!😂MrLargo said:"They're part of the problem"
"He's the defensive coach"
"We need a total clear out"
2 wins don't make a great manager, but they do prove that Jacko and Jase are more than worthy of being given a chance.
7 wouldn't have flattered us. Such a nice feeling to to not have any desire to leave on 85 to beat the traffic.1 -
Dobson MOM - was everywhere
to a man we were superb
Doncaster were the worst side we’ve played in a long while
Should’ve scored at least 6/7 in reality
great day…roll on Tuesday4 -
Anyone else not wanting Jacko to get the job so they don't cry when he leaves?14
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Such a wonderful feeling for the first time this season. Am sure those that went to Sunderland felt the same, but a really welcome tonic. Dobson is a very different player under Jackson to the one we have seen under Adkins. Good to see his better side. On to the next…2
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Feels like a proper Charlton player, and we've not said that about anyone for a while.se9addick said:
Gilbey’s been great the past couple of matches, turning into a really important player for us.cafctom said:Started to notice in the last few games that Gilbey does have quite a deceptive pace about him. He can get down the line and beat a man better than I’d realised.3 -
Is that not the case at every football club? If the players don't like the manager they don't play for him. "Losing the dressing room" - ever heard that phrase?paulfox said:
Also proves, if Jacko and Euell piss anyone off, they will down tools on them aswell!!. Regards to 1st 3 statements, read above!!. And let me know where you got your crystal ball!!😂MrLargo said:"They're part of the problem"
"He's the defensive coach"
"We need a total clear out"
2 wins don't make a great manager, but they do prove that Jacko and Jase are more than worthy of being given a chance.
7 wouldn't have flattered us. Such a nice feeling to to not have any desire to leave on 85 to beat the traffic.
No crystal ball, just common sense and not getting hysterical and wanting to rip everything up and start again when the chips are down. Adkins was a poor manager, that has no bearing at all on Jackson's ability. You can read my views on the Adkins Out thread, page 35 onwards (you posted on page 36 that he definitely shouldn't be given a chance).1 -
Most fun at the Valley for ages. Agree with all the Dobson praise, but shout out to Pearce who I thought was immense today.22
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Loads of plaudits for Dobson and rightly so but credit to Jackson and his coaching staff. The system he is playing is making sure the midfield is not out manned and that is allowing players like Dobson to flourish, might be early days but Morgan would probably fit in this line up and you would see a better player in him too.
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What makes it even more remarkable for Dobson is the fact he's almost doing the job on his own of acting as that anchor in front of the Defence - Under Adkins we usually had two of them back there to cover, and as we saw from the opening games; Dobson did struggle2
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It seems to me that the main difference isn't so much the formation/shape itself but that there currently seems a lot more understanding by the players of their roles and responsibilities in the team.ForeverAddickted said:What makes it even more remarkable for Dobson is the fact he's almost doing the job on his own of acting as that anchor in front of the Defence - Under Adkins we usually had two of them back there to cover, and as we saw from the opening games; Dobson did struggle
Jackson seems to have either deliberately or coincidentally taken one of Curbs' favourite mantras to heart and taken it back to basics in many ways.5 -
This has been alluded to by Jacko himself and some player comments. Seems to me that JJ is delivering a simple message clearly and not over-complicating things. Players know their jobs and what to do in a given situation. I suspect NA was making things harder than they needed to be.2
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My first home game in, well, I don't exactly know when.
Dunno what all the fuss has been about. It's been like that every week, yeah?
Dobson my MotM by a mile. Pearce also good.
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All of our defenders looked extremely comfortable and like they knew what to do, despite the fact they were in a 3. Or maybe every player nowadays learns how to be in a 3, because that formation is completely standard now?1
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Absolutely yes I did, and I wouldn’t think any different now. I also mentioned how much I’d love for things to work out for JJ.As I did not have a clue either way how things may turn out, and neither did anyone else for that matter with certainty. All I knew was things wouldn’t get better under Adkins. Let’s hope in ten games time we’re not wondering why we only played well for two games. Maybe you could enlighten me.👍MrLargo said:
Is that not the case at every football club? If the players don't like the manager they don't play for him. "Losing the dressing room" - ever heard that phrase?paulfox said:
Also proves, if Jacko and Euell piss anyone off, they will down tools on them aswell!!. Regards to 1st 3 statements, read above!!. And let me know where you got your crystal ball!!😂MrLargo said:"They're part of the problem"
"He's the defensive coach"
"We need a total clear out"
2 wins don't make a great manager, but they do prove that Jacko and Jase are more than worthy of being given a chance.
7 wouldn't have flattered us. Such a nice feeling to to not have any desire to leave on 85 to beat the traffic.
No crystal ball, just common sense and not getting hysterical and wanting to rip everything up and start again when the chips are down. Adkins was a poor manager, that has no bearing at all on Jackson's ability. You can read my views on the Adkins Out thread, page 35 onwards (you posted on page 36 that he definitely shouldn't be given a chance).1 -
Agree. And Lisbie said after the game “thats how we used to play when I was here”. And Curbs just deadpanned it.thenewbie said:
It seems to me that the main difference isn't so much the formation/shape itself but that there currently seems a lot more understanding by the players of their roles and responsibilities in the team.ForeverAddickted said:What makes it even more remarkable for Dobson is the fact he's almost doing the job on his own of acting as that anchor in front of the Defence - Under Adkins we usually had two of them back there to cover, and as we saw from the opening games; Dobson did struggle
Jackson seems to have either deliberately or coincidentally taken one of Curbs' favourite mantras to heart and taken it back to basics in many ways.9 -
Isn't he out of contract next summer ?Fortune 82nd Minute said:What a strange game football is.
I never thought the players weren't actually trying for NA - they just looked totally inept - but last week and today the players have upped their effort by 100% and you can see there are some class players in our team (particularly by League 1 standards). The difference, on the rare occasions Doncaster threatened, with loads of players in position to defend was as different as chalk and cheese under NA. And ironically, as with his fellow right back Matthews last week, Gunter had a really good game in the centre of defence.
Huge praise for young Dobson today. He was outstanding. Not only constantly winning the ball but his passing was first rate as well. How on earth could NA have frozen him out on this performance?
And obviously huge praise for JJ. These 2 games just prove that doing the simple things, like playing 2 up front that everybody could see was the way forward except NA and playing "steady-Eddie" (as Curbs calls him) Purrington instead of a kid who had played literally no recent football allied with some tactical nous can take a team a long way in this league.
Finally, I never realised what a good player Eliot Lee is. With Luton doing well, hopefully they won't want to recall him at Christmas and maybe we can even buy him. I hope we can.0 -
Liked the positivity from the midfield. Whoever received the ball, they we’re always looking to receive it on the turn and start advancing up the pitch. Very minimal backwards and sideways passing today and always with the intent that it was just to open up an chance to advance down another avenue of the first way forward was blocked.3
