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Post-match Thread: Charlton Athletic vs Doncaster Rovers | Saturday 30th October 2021

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  • Smith has 12 in 15 with 3 assists!
  • Jason Pearce asskipper just seems to bring it all together, he makes sure everybody is involved (if you watch closely). Granted it is much easier when we are playing well.
  • mendonca said:
     Pearce did his usual of dropping deep near to Macgillivray to receive the throw. JJ instructed him to push up past the thrower, else we're inviting pressure. Pearcy held his hands up in apology and moved up. We saw the half out without our usual self-imposed mistakes.

    It's not only me then always yelling at Pearcey to push up and not to drop unnecessarily deep.

    Thank God Jacko's now on the case! :smile:


  • mendonca said:
    Smith has 12 in 15 with 3 assists!
    Definitely one to watch but I’m sure Pearce will be up for the battle as long as his legs can manage another 90 minutes and he does any grappling outside the box 😈.
  • Rotherham are lethal from set pieces already into double figures from goals scored.

    We will need Stockley & Pearce on Tuesday so no testing them and some real disabling to not concede free kicks
  • RedChaser said:
    mendonca said:
    Smith has 12 in 15 with 3 assists!
    Definitely one to watch but I’m sure Pearce will be up for the battle as long as his legs can manage another 90 minutes and he does any grappling outside the box 😈.
    He wasn’t given any sort of test y’day.  Their front line was anonymous.  Not taking anything away from his performance, it was very solid.  He will be put under a lot more pressure on Tuesday.

    I think all the back line benefit from Dobson’s presence in front of them.  I think it was a big part of what led to them not having that much to deal with overall.  Very excited about this set up Jackson seems to have come up with.  Reminds me of what Bowyer did with his diamond when he first came in.  Plus 2 up top is great to see.  You can tell it’s helping Stockley all ready.

    I have nothing against NA personally, but bloody hell, he was miles off based on the last 2 games.  Miles.
  • It's the wrong game to over analyse every single facet. Some players couldn't have had it easier. Playing against a lone striker with the quality of Doodoo should not be overly testing. 

    Best to look forwards as several challenges ahead.

  • Unfortunately missed the game, due to personal reasons. 

    Hopefully this is a sign of things to come. 

    Also hope we get some better extended highlights.
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  • edited October 2021
    bellz2002 said:
    What a difference to how we played under Adkins. Give the job to Jacko permanently now. 
    Adkins never really has Gilbey this season due to Covid and unfitness because of that. Dobson reminds me so much of Peter Hunt in the 70's. Played exactly  like that and had  ruthless tackle.  When he was out it was noticed .
    I remember Peter Hunt. In our successful promotion year 1974-75, the unsung hero who did all the disciplined grunt work in the engine room -
    and provided the platform for creative players to do their thing.

    At the time I remember talking with Paddy Powell post match in the Valley Club; he told me that Hunty could be quite the flair player and often unplayable in training!
    That taught me players may have more in their locker than defined by their role in the team.




  • I got a sort of sadistic pleasure from reading the player's ratings in the Doncaster free press.

    1. Pontus Dahlberg 5

    Pulled off a trio of good saves late in the game but it did not make up for errors that saw Rovers concede. Not decisive enough from Lee’s free kick that ended up in the back of the net as he appeared to be relying on his defence to react. And he bundled his collection from a free kick allowing Stockley to score.

    2. Kyle Knoyle 3

    Struggled against Purrington, both on and off the ball. A reckless challenge led to the free kick for the first goal. He was nullified by the wing back which prevented him getting forward. Sacrificed to get Rowe onto the pitch in the second half.

    3. Ro-Shaun Williams 4

    Shaky throughout the game and struggled to keep a track on Charlton’s forwards. Easily beaten and rushed clearances.

    4. Tom Anderson 4

    No qualms with the penalty that he conceded as he was caught a little flat footed on the turn by Gilbey. He struggled to track Stockley throughout the game and was easily turned.

    5. Joseph Olowu 3

    Struggled defensively throughout and appeared to have been targeted by Charlton’s pacy wide men. Offered nothing going the other way and tried to do too much at times when the situation called for simple stuff.

    6. John Bostock 3

    Played some awful passes back that put team mates into danger during the first half. He needed to be the composed head to slow things down but wasn’t.

    7. Ethan Galbraith 4

    Lacked his usual quality on the ball, with plenty of passes forward aimless rather than accurate. He also struggled to break things up as he typically would. Completely lost Purrington for the fourth goal.

    8. Rodrigo Vilca 3

    Offered very little throughout the game. He gave little cover against Purrington and struggled for any meaningful possession on the ball. He rushed his one chance

    9. Matt Smith 5

    Typically energetic and was the only player to really rush or harry the opposition until the introduction of the substitutes.

    10. Jordy Hiwula 3

    Struggled to get into the game at all - disappointing given this pace against the opposition defence would certainly have caused problems.

    11. Joe Dodoo 5

    Completely isolated up front with a lack of sensible service. Tried to put himself about but couldn’t make an impact.


    Christ I thought Bostock was there only player with a footballing brain.
  • thenewbie said:
    Jason Pearce asskipper just seems to bring it all together, he makes sure everybody is involved (if you watch closely). Granted it is much easier when we are playing well.
    Is that some new euphemism or something?! 
    New diversity initiative...
  • Loving JJ’s high pressing all out strategy and his weird formation.  It just seems to fit the skills of Stockley and Washington as they do better with two up front instead of in isolation. It gives Lee a free floating role to find pockets between the opposing teams defense and midfield.  However, it heavily relies on Dobson and Gilbey to cover a lot of ground defensively in order for the “wingbacks” to get forward so we need to keep them fit.  I am still a little skeptical that the back 3 with some sort of combination of Famewo, Pearce, Gunter, Matthews will be good enough against better teams in the league.  We will see.
  • I'm still fascinated by our defensive shape, and the amount it relies on players subtly changing roles, especially Ben Purrington.

    At the end of the 2018/19 when he would get forward a lot - something Jacko cleared remembered - yet so far we haven't been caught out on our left defensively, with Purrington stranded up field.
  • I'm still fascinated by our defensive shape, and the amount it relies on players subtly changing roles, especially Ben Purrington.

    At the end of the 2018/19 when he would get forward a lot - something Jacko cleared remembered - yet so far we haven't been caught out on our left defensively, with Purrington stranded up field.
    Three CBs, a DM, players who track back and our higher more aggressive press are all playing a part.

    Replace Purrington, Gilbey and Dobson with Soaure, Morgan and Watson then it’s not going to be so effective.

    I’d be looking to bring in more fit, energetic and mobile players in January if we can move a few on. Got to avoid bringing in more Watson’s, Arter’s and Gunter’s, too many in a team especially in more attacking roles limits us so much.
  • Great eat team performance.  Completely unrecognisable from recent games.  JJ has done a fantastic job so far and has them playing good, attacking football.  This was a particularly important game because we needed to play OUR game and challenge Donny to come and get us.  We passed that test with flying colours and should have scored a hatful but the pleasing part was it was a performance that will make a few teams sit-up and notice.  A few more wins and we are absolutely back
  • I'm still fascinated by our defensive shape, and the amount it relies on players subtly changing roles, especially Ben Purrington.

    At the end of the 2018/19 when he would get forward a lot - something Jacko cleared remembered - yet so far we haven't been caught out on our left defensively, with Purrington stranded up field.
    We were caught out under NA because we were set up to play the game in our own half, not the opposition’s. It didn’t work because the players didn’t get too much opportunity in real matches to get used to each other and when we did leave our own half (not often) the gap wasn’t dealt with. In theory it should not be a problem under Jackson if we are set up to attack because that pushes the opposition onto the back foot, plays more of the game in their half and makes it a further distance for them to get to our goal, which in turn gives the back 3 more time to move to deal with the threat. Pearce was in his element yesterday. Famewo, who I think switches off sometimes and I would rather not see him playing because if it, had his best game imo and it’s a game plan that seems to suit his considerable talent.
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  • edited November 2021
     :) 
  • edited October 2021
    I can't buy in to JJ the savior yet, or any time soon. We saw the same impact when Adkins took over, and look what happened.

    Let's wait until JJ has to deal with adversity, injury crises, other managers working out our tactics, etc. That's when you can judge a manager, anything before that can just be the 'bounce'.
    Wasn’t Jackson in charge for NA’s ‘first’ game ?. NA also inherited a squad of players who, by that time in the season, knew each other really well and could adapt to switches in game plans because they knew  where a pass would go, who would cover a gap etc
  • edited October 2021
    If you take a look at the match reports (even BBC) of Rotherham v Sunderland. They show Rotherham's formation as 3-1-4-2. Sounds familiar right?

    Another interesting point is that Rotherham's official site says since moving to 3 at the back "saw the 'Wrecking Ball' take up a role as the organiser at the heart of the defence and he thrived in it". The player being our 1-season old boy Richard Wood who is now 36. Lets hope the same can be seen with Pearcy!
  • Great team performance - Dobson superb and clear MOTM, Stockley bullied their defence, everyone on it and working hard, created bundles of chances - feel confident we will beat Rotherham - i'd give Jacko the job today.  
  • DOUCHER said:
    Great team performance - Dobson superb and clear MOTM, Stockley bullied their defence, everyone on it and working hard, created bundles of chances - feel confident we will beat Rotherham - i'd give Jacko the job today.  
    No. Wait until he’s had time to settle in and, inevitably, lost a few games as well. That will take some of the pressure away from him and TS that would arise if there is a knee-jerk contract on the back of two wins…and counting
  • I got a sort of sadistic pleasure from reading the player's ratings in the Doncaster free press.

    1. Pontus Dahlberg 5

    Pulled off a trio of good saves late in the game but it did not make up for errors that saw Rovers concede. Not decisive enough from Lee’s free kick that ended up in the back of the net as he appeared to be relying on his defence to react. And he bundled his collection from a free kick allowing Stockley to score.

    2. Kyle Knoyle 3

    Struggled against Purrington, both on and off the ball. A reckless challenge led to the free kick for the first goal. He was nullified by the wing back which prevented him getting forward. Sacrificed to get Rowe onto the pitch in the second half.

    3. Ro-Shaun Williams 4

    Shaky throughout the game and struggled to keep a track on Charlton’s forwards. Easily beaten and rushed clearances.

    4. Tom Anderson 4

    No qualms with the penalty that he conceded as he was caught a little flat footed on the turn by Gilbey. He struggled to track Stockley throughout the game and was easily turned.

    5. Joseph Olowu 3

    Struggled defensively throughout and appeared to have been targeted by Charlton’s pacy wide men. Offered nothing going the other way and tried to do too much at times when the situation called for simple stuff.

    6. John Bostock 3

    Played some awful passes back that put team mates into danger during the first half. He needed to be the composed head to slow things down but wasn’t.

    7. Ethan Galbraith 4

    Lacked his usual quality on the ball, with plenty of passes forward aimless rather than accurate. He also struggled to break things up as he typically would. Completely lost Purrington for the fourth goal.

    8. Rodrigo Vilca 3

    Offered very little throughout the game. He gave little cover against Purrington and struggled for any meaningful possession on the ball. He rushed his one chance

    9. Matt Smith 5

    Typically energetic and was the only player to really rush or harry the opposition until the introduction of the substitutes.

    10. Jordy Hiwula 3

    Struggled to get into the game at all - disappointing given this pace against the opposition defence would certainly have caused problems.

    11. Joe Dodoo 5

    Completely isolated up front with a lack of sensible service. Tried to put himself about but couldn’t make an impact.


    Bostock 3 but Dodoo 5? Aint got a scooby
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