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Post-match Thread: Charlton Athletic vs Doncaster Rovers | Saturday 30th October 2021

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  • Can't stop smiling feeling like dobson is cullen 2.0
  • JamesSeed said:
    That’s two games in a row where Stockley has missed simple headed chances. Last season he scored with his head from ridiculous angles - every time he headed the ball he seemed to score! 
    Hopefully he’ll have got those misses out of his system now. I wonder if JJ will start Davison on Tuesday to rest Stockley?
    Last season it was noticeable that Stockley frequently had Shinnie picking out his movement.
    He must have provided assists for around 5 of Stockley's goals.

    A player often works well together with another individual, forms some sort of on pitch understanding, where both players read each others game perfectly. Without Shinnie, will we see one of Leko, DJ or Lee work well in picking out Stockley?


  • Oggy Red said:
    JamesSeed said:
    That’s two games in a row where Stockley has missed simple headed chances. Last season he scored with his head from ridiculous angles - every time he headed the ball he seemed to score! 
    Hopefully he’ll have got those misses out of his system now. I wonder if JJ will start Davison on Tuesday to rest Stockley?
    Last season it was noticeable that Stockley frequently had Shinnie picking out his movement.
    He must have provided assists for around 5 of Stockley's goals.

    A player often works well together with another individual, forms some sort of on pitch understanding, where both players read each others game perfectly. Without Shinnie, will we see one of Leko, DJ or Lee work well in picking out Stockley?


    Picking out the runs for Washington is just as important, if not more so. Those runs completely blow the defenders’ game plan out the window every time.
  • RedChaser said:
    JamesSeed said:
    That’s two games in a row where Stockley has missed simple headed chances. Last season he scored with his head from ridiculous angles - every time he headed the ball he seemed to score! 
    Hopefully he’ll have got those misses out of his system now. I wonder if JJ will start Davison on Tuesday to rest Stockley?
    The issue I have with resting Stockley Tuesday is the defensive headers he makes in our box against set pieces. Rotherham’s in form CF Smith is a big unit at 6’3”and we need to match up.

    I agree RedChaser.
    Stockley marking Michael Smith who is in the best goal scoring form of his pro career from set pieces could well decides who comes out on top.  
  • Loving JJ’s high pressing all out strategy and his weird formation.  It just seems to fit the skills of Stockley and Washington as they do better with two up front instead of in isolation. It gives Lee a free floating role to find pockets between the opposing teams defense and midfield.  However, it heavily relies on Dobson and Gilbey to cover a lot of ground defensively in order for the “wingbacks” to get forward so we need to keep them fit.  I am still a little skeptical that the back 3 with some sort of combination of Famewo, Pearce, Gunter, Matthews will be good enough against better teams in the league. We will see.
    It was good enough against Sunderland. :wink:

    Seriously, it's a work in progress but in theory this team in this set up should only get better the more they play this way together.
    We won't win every game. There'll be matches where teams will work us out - but with the flexibility in the set up/formation, there's options to defend in numbers if the situation warrants it.

    We shouldn't fear the better teams. We didn't fear Sunderland and their 100% home record in front of their big home crowd.
    That shows we've nothing to fear.

    Anyway, in form Rotherham on Tuesday. That's the next test.


  • DOUCHER said:
    Great team performance - Dobson superb and clear MOTM, Stockley bullied their defence, everyone on it and working hard, created bundles of chances - feel confident we will beat Rotherham - i'd give Jacko the job today.  
    No. Wait until he’s had time to settle in and, inevitably, lost a few games as well. That will take some of the pressure away from him and TS that would arise if there is a knee-jerk contract on the back of two wins…and counting
    Yep, agree with that.

    Let Jacko earn his spurs (did I really say that? :smile: ). Seriously, it's been a brilliant start and if the performances continue, the results will more or less reflect that.

    Let's review it in a month's time and maybe that's the time to think about a permanent appointment, with a month to go before the January window opens?


  • Very pleased to escape my losing streak since I've been back in the UK. Up to today 4 games seen, 4 defeats. Today 4 goals.

    I was only reminded once out of the ground & heading for the car that that was my first win of the season. I missed the Crewe match & the other 2 wins were (long) away trips. 

    Before today I had seen 5 defeats & 3 draws. 
    You should be satisfied then, you moaning wallybrain.,,🙂
    You can’t beat a little brotherly love 💕😉
  • Very pleased to escape my losing streak since I've been back in the UK. Up to today 4 games seen, 4 defeats. Today 4 goals.

    I was only reminded once out of the ground & heading for the car that that was my first win of the season. I missed the Crewe match & the other 2 wins were (long) away trips. 

    Before today I had seen 5 defeats & 3 draws. 
    You should be satisfied then, you moaning wallybrain.,,🙂
    Ha ha! You tell him  @jimmymelrose

    After all, you are in prime position to!  :smile:




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  • Looking at a psychologically healthier League table right now.
    Just to be out of the bottom 4 is a great boost for belief, confidence and looking upwards, rather than down.

    It's only 9 days ago that we were getting cut off from 'safety', with just 1 point more than Crewe.
    This run so far is only 2 games, of course - but a run has to start somewhere.

    Curbs must be happy ...... all we need now is 'momentum'. :smile:





  • Oggy Red said:
    JamesSeed said:
    That’s two games in a row where Stockley has missed simple headed chances. Last season he scored with his head from ridiculous angles - every time he headed the ball he seemed to score! 
    Hopefully he’ll have got those misses out of his system now. I wonder if JJ will start Davison on Tuesday to rest Stockley?
    Last season it was noticeable that Stockley frequently had Shinnie picking out his movement.
    He must have provided assists for around 5 of Stockley's goals.

    A player often works well together with another individual, forms some sort of on pitch understanding, where both players read each others game perfectly. Without Shinnie, will we see one of Leko, DJ or Lee work well in picking out Stockley?


    Picking out the runs for Washington is just as important, if not more so. Those runs completely blow the defenders’ game plan out the window every time.
    Agreed. I can't remember who played the ball, DJ was it? .......but as we saw yesterday with Washo winning that penalty.

    That was sheer lungbusting determination from Washo, to lean inside the defender and get a touch on the ball just inside the box.
    Felt a bit sorry for the defender, who IMO had no intention of bringing down Washo - but because Washo got in front of him, just couldn't avoid tripping him on the run.



  • delroofer said:
    Celebrated my birthday today in the Club 1905 lounge and the win made it a great day, capped off when George Dobson came over after the game to wish me a Happy Birthday after collecting his Man of the Match champagne. A shame that I was caught with my eyes closed in the photo.
    25th birthday right?
  • thenewbie said:
    Jason Pearce asskipper just seems to bring it all together, he makes sure everybody is involved (if you watch closely). Granted it is much easier when we are playing well.
    Is that some new euphemism or something?! 
    A clear Freudian slip based on my feelings about Brexit.
  • delroofer said:
    Celebrated my birthday today in the Club 1905 lounge and the win made it a great day, capped off when George Dobson came over after the game to wish me a Happy Birthday after collecting his Man of the Match champagne. A shame that I was caught with my eyes closed in the photo.
    Caption competition. 

    George has a bit of a bewildered look on his face there, as if he's saying;

    "What's that smell, has this old bloke just shat himself?"

    And Del has a satisfied look on his face as if to say,

    "Oh yes"
  • edited October 2021
    Woke up this morning feeling fine...but a little hungover! What a great performance and a scoreline our dominance deserved. Dobson, DJ, Stockley all superb. What a turnaround from the turgid shite under Nige. Especially enjoyed a moment in the 1st half where Purrington morphed into Lionel Messi and skinned about three players before bursting into the box haha! WTF?! Great stuff all round. And DJ looked a completely different player. How many excellent crosses did he put in 2nd half? Only negative was we didn't score more, but hard to complain about a 4 nil win. COYA
  • Scoham said:
    I'm still fascinated by our defensive shape, and the amount it relies on players subtly changing roles, especially Ben Purrington.

    At the end of the 2018/19 when he would get forward a lot - something Jacko cleared remembered - yet so far we haven't been caught out on our left defensively, with Purrington stranded up field.
    Three CBs, a DM, players who track back and our higher more aggressive press are all playing a part.

    Replace Purrington, Gilbey and Dobson with Soaure, Morgan and Watson then it’s not going to be so effective.

    I’d be looking to bring in more fit, energetic and mobile players in January if we can move a few on. Got to avoid bringing in more Watson’s, Arter’s and Gunter’s, too many in a team especially in more attacking roles limits us so much.
    Slightly shocked sir.
  • I can't buy in to JJ the savior yet, or any time soon. We saw the same impact when Adkins took over, and look what happened.

    Let's wait until JJ has to deal with adversity, injury crises, other managers working out our tactics, etc. That's when you can judge a manager, anything before that can just be the 'bounce'.
    Probably wise words, but in terms of tactics I'm not so sure. Our basic formation and tactics lead to us have plenty of bodies defending when the other side attack, and plenty of players getting in their box when we're attacking. There's no simple way of countering that (as far as I know). This is why I'm confident of a good performance, even going into a match against form side Rotherham.
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  • RedChaser said:
    JamesSeed said:
    That’s two games in a row where Stockley has missed simple headed chances. Last season he scored with his head from ridiculous angles - every time he headed the ball he seemed to score! 
    Hopefully he’ll have got those misses out of his system now. I wonder if JJ will start Davison on Tuesday to rest Stockley?
    The issue I have with resting Stockley Tuesday is the defensive headers he makes in our box against set pieces. Rotherham’s in form CF Smith is a big unit at 6’3”and we need to match up.
    That's a very good point. I'm with you on that.
  • JamesSeed said:
    Scoham said:
    I'm still fascinated by our defensive shape, and the amount it relies on players subtly changing roles, especially Ben Purrington.

    At the end of the 2018/19 when he would get forward a lot - something Jacko cleared remembered - yet so far we haven't been caught out on our left defensively, with Purrington stranded up field.
    Three CBs, a DM, players who track back and our higher more aggressive press are all playing a part.

    Replace Purrington, Gilbey and Dobson with Soaure, Morgan and Watson then it’s not going to be so effective.

    I’d be looking to bring in more fit, energetic and mobile players in January if we can move a few on. Got to avoid bringing in more Watson’s, Arter’s and Gunter’s, too many in a team especially in more attacking roles limits us so much.
    Slightly shocked sir.
    Bloody grammer police!
  • JamesSeed said:
    That’s two games in a row where Stockley has missed simple headed chances. Last season he scored with his head from ridiculous angles - every time he headed the ball he seemed to score! 
    Hopefully he’ll have got those misses out of his system now. I wonder if JJ will start Davison on Tuesday to rest Stockley?
    He scored with a header at Sunderland. 
  • edited October 2021
    JamesSeed said:
    RedChaser said:
    JamesSeed said:
    That’s two games in a row where Stockley has missed simple headed chances. Last season he scored with his head from ridiculous angles - every time he headed the ball he seemed to score! 
    Hopefully he’ll have got those misses out of his system now. I wonder if JJ will start Davison on Tuesday to rest Stockley?
    The issue I have with resting Stockley Tuesday is the defensive headers he makes in our box against set pieces. Rotherham’s in form CF Smith is a big unit at 6’3”and we need to match up.
    That's a very good point. I'm with you on that.
    And unless any players are actually a genuine medical risk if we play them on Tuesday, it's the FA Cup next Saturday when most of the 11 probably won't play anyway
  • JamesSeed said:
    The only downside for me was having to move seats with my son-in-law because the elderly fella sitting next to me had a persistent cough and didn’t even put his hand over his mouth, let alone put on a mask.
    Surprised to see that post getting lol'ed. Bloke's head was like a foot or two away from mine and cough cough cough.... agh!! That reminds me, I'm overdue my booster!
  • JamesSeed said:
    JamesSeed said:
    The only downside for me was having to move seats with my son-in-law because the elderly fella sitting next to me had a persistent cough and didn’t even put his hand over his mouth, let alone put on a mask.
    Surprised to see that post getting lol'ed. Bloke's head was like a foot or two away from mine and cough cough cough.... agh!! That reminds me, I'm overdue my booster!
    Managed to find another empty seat ok though, did you?
  • Off_it said:
    JamesSeed said:
    JamesSeed said:
    The only downside for me was having to move seats with my son-in-law because the elderly fella sitting next to me had a persistent cough and didn’t even put his hand over his mouth, let alone put on a mask.
    Surprised to see that post getting lol'ed. Bloke's head was like a foot or two away from mine and cough cough cough.... agh!! That reminds me, I'm overdue my booster!
    Managed to find another empty seat ok though, did you?
    There were four right behind us.
  • JamesSeed said:
    That’s two games in a row where Stockley has missed simple headed chances. Last season he scored with his head from ridiculous angles - every time he headed the ball he seemed to score! 
    Hopefully he’ll have got those misses out of his system now. I wonder if JJ will start Davison on Tuesday to rest Stockley?
    He scored with a header at Sunderland. 
    Yes and a decent header too.
    I was remembering the free header which ended up looping away to Lecko. Nothing against Stockley, but I'd like to see him burying these chances like he did last season. 
  • Off_it said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Off_it said:
    JamesSeed said:
    JamesSeed said:
    The only downside for me was having to move seats with my son-in-law because the elderly fella sitting next to me had a persistent cough and didn’t even put his hand over his mouth, let alone put on a mask.
    Surprised to see that post getting lol'ed. Bloke's head was like a foot or two away from mine and cough cough cough.... agh!! That reminds me, I'm overdue my booster!
    Managed to find another empty seat ok though, did you?
    There were four right behind us.
    No big deal then. Old bloke had a cough. You moved seats. Sorted.
    It was you, wasn't it! 🤔
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