The reds were probably the lino's fault. Kettle wasn't even looking at it. Whilst accepting I could have missed something, two yellows looked right. Might be worth letting Kettle have a look at it with that in mind.
Always 2 yellows for me. It was crap from both players to be rolling around on the floor like that, and even if it got heated, the incident was not effecting the current state of play.
Better ref would have taken them both aside, gave them a massive talking at the same time to make a point of it and then yellow’d them. Would have controlled the game much better that way Kettle couldn’t wait to get his red out the moment he heard from the Lino.
An excellent defensive performance. Other than the one good save McG made, Burton never really looked like scoring
MoM probably Pearce who was a defensive wall today, but Purrington was up there too and is a real goal threat when allowed to venture forward, as he showed in the playoff final of course.
Famewo had a superb second half, a couple of time he got Dobson out of jail with great challenges. Annoying that he picked up such a ridiculously soft 5th booking, especially as in the second half other Charlton players were surely more guilty of timewasting. Indeed did they sub Kettle at half time, as in the second half it was if a different ref had taken over!
Stockley has been falling foul of referees all season, and they can't all be wrong. Hopefully Leko is back next Saturday, as we do need more options up front than Washington and Davison
It's amazing what an effect a Charlton result can have on your Saturday night, isn't it?
I was bracing myself for a late equalizer and the pall of disappointment that comes with it; that's kind of been our season in a nutshell.....but we hold on and I'm happy as a pig in the proverbial!
We got our Charlton back and we're on the way upwards again - JJ's Red and White Army is on the march!
Glad my Dulwich ticket fell through. Superb performance in the first half, gritty in the second. Would have liked us to have had a bit more possession in the second, as you're always relying on a little bit of luck going our way defending for such long periods - and it took an excellent save from McGillivray to keep them at bay. Agree with Fortune (above) about Pearce. He's been really very good this season when given a chance. Big plusses for me are Clare and Dobson who many had written off before Jacko took over. And JJ's recall of Purrington really highlights how Adkins got so much so wrong. Stockley will be a miss, as will Famewo (another player who has thrived under Jacko). Ten points from four games. Dreamland, Tel!
An excellent defensive performance. Other than the one good save McG made, Burton never really looked like scoring
MoM probably Pearce who was a defensive wall today, but Purrington was up there too and is a real goal threat when allowed to venture forward, as he showed in the playoff final of course.
Famewo had a superb second half, a couple of time he got Dobson out of jail with great challenges. Annoying that he picked up such a ridiculously soft 5th booking, especially as in the second half other Charlton players were surely more guilty of timewasting. Indeed did they sub Kettle at half time, as in the second half it was if a different ref had taken over!
Stockley has been falling foul of referees all season, and they can't all be wrong. Hopefully Leko is back next Saturday, as we do need more options up front than Washington and Davison
We need to pray Washington doesn't get injured playing for NI against Italy next week.
Like you say, hopefully Leko is back although after missing a few games it'd be a risk to start him anyway.
Anyone still there, if you could get me a jar of Hasselbaink's tears I'd be very grateful. Obviously I'll pay for p&p.
Great result, grinding out a 1-0 away win against a difficult team like Burton is exactly what we need to be doing. I always thought Oshilaja was an absolute liability for us and I'm glad to see that he's clearly one of the few players who hasn't become a world beater the moment he leaves us. I think he was Charltonised before he even arrived at The Valley. Great work from Jacko bringing on Deji 2.0 as well just to really rub it in. Another weekend where we can wake up on a Sunday feeling good about the football instead of absolutely horrified, cheers Purry B!
And finally the referee. What on earth can you say? Surely the time has come when Charlton write to the League and just say we don't ever want this man to referee our games again.
You know, my thoughts exactly.
Kettle causes more tension, aggravation and winds up players. It's like so much of his performance is extreme and OTT. He's the star of his own show. Whatever happened to the definition of the best referee is one that you hardly notice?
And it's not just us. It seems like every club in the division has a grievance with Kettle. What does that tell you?
The reds were probably the lino's fault. Kettle wasn't even looking at it. Whilst accepting I could have missed something, two yellows looked right. Might be worth letting Kettle have a look at it with that in mind.
Always 2 yellows for me. It was crap from both players to be rolling around on the floor like that, and even if it got heated, the incident was not effecting the current state of play.
Better ref would have taken them both aside, gave them a massive talking at the same time to make a point of it and then yellow’d them. Would have controlled the game much better that way Kettle couldn’t wait to get his red out the moment he heard from the Lino.
If you go round throwing elbows & grappling with each other then tte ref has no option than to send you off. Hands were raised......players might have been on the floor but that is no excuse.
if only NA got binned off after the Bolton game, could have been an extra win or two better off by now
Wycombe away was the watershed. He should have walked / resigned that evening. Who knows where we would be now.
Cheltenham home he should have gone
Or even after Lincoln away. No way would we have lost 3-2 to Accrington the following Tuesday with Jacko in charge
I envy the fans there today. I saw the win at Fleetwood, but it was a bit bittersweet as it meant that Adkins would stay in charge for at least another 2 weeks (it was the international break, the PERFECT time to change things)
The reds were probably the lino's fault. Kettle wasn't even looking at it. Whilst accepting I could have missed something, two yellows looked right. Might be worth letting Kettle have a look at it with that in mind.
Looking at the Sky highlights, it looks like the situation started when Stockley was clearly wrestled to the ground by Oshilaja. And when he tried to get up, you see him on his back with both feet in the air as Oshilaja pinned him down and maybe, can't be sure from the camera angle, struck him. After that, players from both sides rushed in and it's not clear what further happened.
Clearly the referee missed the whole incident until alerted by the lino. Trying to watch the lino's reaction, I'm of the opinion he didn't actually see the start of the incident, merely saw 2 players locked together rolling on the ground - and appeared to advise the referee that '2 players were fighting'. The reaction of many of the Charlton players to the Red Card was in protest, particularly Gilbey with the linesman .... like they felt that Stockley was the victim.
You'd need another camera angle to be sure of exactly what happened.
The way Kettle gave the 2 reds was odd as well. Normally you'd expect the 2 players to be together when being lectured by the ref, instead Stockley got his red when Deji was nowhere near them, as if he wasn't going to be punished as well
The reds were probably the lino's fault. Kettle wasn't even looking at it. Whilst accepting I could have missed something, two yellows looked right. Might be worth letting Kettle have a look at it with that in mind.
Always 2 yellows for me. It was crap from both players to be rolling around on the floor like that, and even if it got heated, the incident was not effecting the current state of play.
Better ref would have taken them both aside, gave them a massive talking at the same time to make a point of it and then yellow’d them. Would have controlled the game much better that way Kettle couldn’t wait to get his red out the moment he heard from the Lino.
If you go round throwing elbows & grappling with each other then tte ref has no option than to send you off. Hands were raised......players might have been on the floor but that is no excuse.
Don’t agree with that myself, both players were definitely in the wrong and deserved a yellow. But giving out two reds, 14 minutes into a game, because two players have an off the ball tussle on the ground, even if hands went into faces, just ruined the spectacle and meant the ref nearly lost control of the game (which he tried to yellow card himself out of). It was hardly some full blown scuffle.
As I say, I think a better ref takes them both to the side, gives them both a long talking to and then gives them both a yellow. I imagine it wouldn’t have been a big a talking point if he did.
Shame about us being 'Kettled', though....those suspensions could really cost us in the next few games; especially given our pre-existing injury worries.
That ref's card addiction will no doubt have a significant affect upon the outcome of the division; which probably gives him a little thrill, tbh...
"Looking at our team I cant see us winning this one. 1-0.......and the undefeated run goes for a Burton. "
But Golfie's always right!
Oops.....I forgot that our super striker Purrington was playing.
Off now to eat some humble pie. Custard anyone ?
So when did they change the laws of the game that only ‘strikers’ are allowed to score goals, I must have missed that. Anyway isn’t CBT a forward 🤔.
I gather you would have thrown young Burstow in at the deep end and run the risk of having any confidence the lad has, smashed out of him in his introduction to the blood and guts of a League one away fixture. At least Joe Pigott was thrown to the lions at the Valley.
Thank goodness JJ picks the team and was fully justified in his squad selection as proven with the three points gained and progress up the tables. Surely you’ve dug enough holes to know when to throw that spade away 😉.
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Better ref would have taken them both aside, gave them a massive talking at the same time to make a point of it and then yellow’d them. Would have controlled the game much better that way Kettle couldn’t wait to get his red out the moment he heard from the Lino.
Or, a bit of both. A rather bizarre contrast.
I can imagine Adkins doing a team talk...and Jackson sitting in the corner, with his head down thinking "please be quiet"
Deep down, NA obviously didn't actually care and he had no genuine ambition
MoM probably Pearce who was a defensive wall today, but Purrington was up there too and is a real goal threat when allowed to venture forward, as he showed in the playoff final of course.
Famewo had a superb second half, a couple of time he got Dobson out of jail with great challenges. Annoying that he picked up such a ridiculously soft 5th booking, especially as in the second half other Charlton players were surely more guilty of timewasting. Indeed did they sub Kettle at half time, as in the second half it was if a different ref had taken over!
Stockley has been falling foul of referees all season, and they can't all be wrong. Hopefully Leko is back next Saturday, as we do need more options up front than Washington and Davison
Play offs still on.
Great support.
I was bracing myself for a late equalizer and the pall of disappointment that comes with it; that's kind of been our season in a nutshell.....but we hold on and I'm happy as a pig in the proverbial!
We got our Charlton back and we're on the way upwards again - JJ's Red and White Army is on the march!
Superb performance in the first half, gritty in the second. Would have liked us to have had a bit more possession in the second, as you're always relying on a little bit of luck going our way defending for such long periods - and it took an excellent save from McGillivray to keep them at bay.
Agree with Fortune (above) about Pearce. He's been really very good this season when given a chance.
Big plusses for me are Clare and Dobson who many had written off before Jacko took over.
And JJ's recall of Purrington really highlights how Adkins got so much so wrong.
Stockley will be a miss, as will Famewo (another player who has thrived under Jacko).
Ten points from four games. Dreamland, Tel!
Like you say, hopefully Leko is back although after missing a few games it'd be a risk to start him anyway.
But Golfie's always right!
Kettle causes more tension, aggravation and winds up players. It's like so much of his performance is extreme and OTT. He's the star of his own show.
Whatever happened to the definition of the best referee is one that you hardly notice?
And it's not just us. It seems like every club in the division has a grievance with Kettle.
What does that tell you?
Off now to eat some humble pie. Custard anyone ?
I envy the fans there today. I saw the win at Fleetwood, but it was a bit bittersweet as it meant that Adkins would stay in charge for at least another 2 weeks (it was the international break, the PERFECT time to change things)
And when he tried to get up, you see him on his back with both feet in the air as Oshilaja pinned him down and maybe, can't be sure from the camera angle, struck him. After that, players from both sides rushed in and it's not clear what further happened.
Clearly the referee missed the whole incident until alerted by the lino. Trying to watch the lino's reaction, I'm of the opinion he didn't actually see the start of the incident, merely saw 2 players locked together rolling on the ground - and appeared to advise the referee that '2 players were fighting'. The reaction of many of the Charlton players to the Red Card was in protest, particularly Gilbey with the linesman .... like they felt that Stockley was the victim.
You'd need another camera angle to be sure of exactly what happened.
Humble pie never tasted so good.
As I say, I think a better ref takes them both to the side, gives them both a long talking to and then gives them both a yellow. I imagine it wouldn’t have been a big a talking point if he did.
That ref's card addiction will no doubt have a significant affect upon the outcome of the division; which probably gives him a little thrill, tbh...
I gather you would have thrown young Burstow in at the deep end and run the risk of having any confidence the lad has, smashed out of him in his introduction to the blood and guts of a League one away fixture. At least Joe Pigott was thrown to the lions at the Valley.
Thank goodness JJ picks the team and was fully justified in his squad selection as proven with the three points gained and progress up the tables. Surely you’ve dug enough holes to know when to throw that spade away 😉.