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Post-match Thread: Charlton Athletic v Milton Keynes | Tuesday 22 February 2022

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  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,005
    Awful but I do think any team would struggle with three now four strikers out injured. We would’ve likely scored in that first half and it would’ve been a different game. 
    So what’s the injury news with Stockley, Washington and Aneke? 
  • Burstow out now! Why dont we give the under 23's a go they can't do any worse than what we have seen tonight 
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,390
    I n n i s s
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,517
    mendonca said:
    Our fans more or less demanded that we bring Jacko in. He was brought in. If we demand more changes we really are just turning into one of those Clubs.
    Agree with your point, but not everyone demanded Jacko be made permanent
  • CatAddick
    CatAddick Posts: 2,388
    Just not good enough.  When Matthews and Leko start after their ‘performance’ on Saturday you know we are in trouble.  I think we’ve enough points on the board but it just feels like a relegation season.  No heart.  No luck.  No points
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,323
    Free fall - will get worse before it gets better. 
  • LMHR
    LMHR Posts: 172
    edited February 2022
    On a positive note turned over to Alba and Cumings  made a couple of good penalty saves. 
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,215
    The players - pathetic little boys who gave up the second they realised play offs is gone.

    JJ - inherited someone else’s squad, under pressure already due to this shite squad, I’m not ready to slag him off yet.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,083
    Didn't bother going tonight, feel so disinterested in the side at present. 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,005
    You can see why Curbs was successful. He makes things sound simple. I know it’s a bit of a go-to when we’re struggling but could Jacko do with him in as a wise head? 

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  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,846
    There must have been worse Charlton teams and even worse runs of form but it's hard to think of them right now. This season is such a crashing disappointment. After the excitement of Sandgaard's takeover, the return to the Valley after the Covid enforced absence and the anticipation following our decent end to last season under Adkins, I really felt this was going to be a season to remember. It has been, but not for the reasons i imagined. Can't wait for the season to end. Just hope that we don't get dragged into a relegation fight. League Two would be the final ignominy - even if that looks about our level right now.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,830
    kafka said:
    There were only two players in that side tonight who will be here when we eventually win promotion (providing they don’t move on to better things beforehand).

    Dobson and Lavelle.
    Did you see Lavelle’s defending for the second goal?
    I remember seeing Famewo and Castillo getting turned inside out by Connor Wickham.
  • We need a few more wins to be safe this season. Hard to see where those are going to come from.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,389
    We're not going down. There are at least 20 worse sides in this league than MKD
  • Totally outplayed again.

    Thing I don't get is how we sat back and let mkdons play. Surely we could have put a couple of old fashioned tackles in just to remind them we were still there. But not a sign of it. 

    Bad times. 
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,517
    The players - pathetic little boys who gave up the second they realised play offs is gone.

    JJ - inherited someone else’s squad, under pressure already due to this shite squad, I’m not ready to slag him off yet.
    Are people slagging him off, or is he above criticism?
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    Players out are killing us, potentially 4 strikers now, Fraser, JFC, CBT maybe Innis as well.....and that would hurt any team BUT apart from the first 20/25 mins we were chasing shadows, not competing, look beaten as soon as 1 goal goes in.....no fight.....this is not a squad I recognise......glad as a ST holder I cant make midweek games due to work......next 3 games...3 losses I think. Just pathetic....62 years supporting and Im just staggered at the ineptness of this squad.....really saddened. 
    As much as your right about the players missing RED, we really haven’t set the world alight with them have we?, apart from a few results when JJ was caretaker. I’m a little bit behind you in supporting years but yes the overwhelming feeling is sadness , in the past if we haven’t been good,we’ve at least made up for it with fight. Where’s it all gone?☹️.
  • Valley11 said:
    You can see why Curbs was successful. He makes things sound simple. I know it’s a bit of a go-to when we’re struggling but could Jacko do with him in as a wise head? 
    Curbs had Keith P alongside him for a few years.

    I'm sure Lord Llewellyn could do the same for Jacko and Euelly.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,323
    Tactically we are at the same place we were under Adkins. No surprise when we have hired his Assistant. 

    Jacko isn’t ready for a job this size. 
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,554
    Played alright first half for the most part and some of the second, still got brushed aside in the end. That's.... A big concern. 

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  • Another team completes a double over us. 13th place looks a long way off...
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,747
    Sick of the persistence with this formation. The same things happen every week. The wingbacks don't get forward, long balls catch out the centre backs and the ball between the CB and WB costs us a goal.

    Said it on the last post match thread, the injuries are tough to deal with, but that does not excuse the defensive mess we are seeing.

    A month or so ago I questioned whether Jackson had a plan B, I am still not seeing anything to suggest he has. You want him to do well, but he is increasingly looking out of his depth.

    We will get nothing at Sheff Weds and all of a sudden we have lost 5 on the bounce and it becomes a tailspin. Teams struggling will see us as a soft touch and fancy playing us to pick up points. Where as before the likes of Gillingham may have come to the Valley looking for a point, they will now be looking for 3 points.

    I genuinely believe we can get sucked into a proper relegation battle. Would you back any of this mob if we need 3/4 points to stay up from the last 2/3 games? I certainly wouldn't. I have seen worse teams and worse players but am struggling to remember a bigger set of gutless losers than this group.

    It's shit, I expect it to get worse and don't be surprised if we go into the last game of the season needing something to stay up.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,010
    edited February 2022
    J BLOCK said:
    Tactically we are at the same place we were under Adkins. No surprise when we have hired his Assistant. 

    Jacko isn’t ready for a job this size. 
    Liam Manning done a year in Belgium and a couple years coaching West Ham U23’s before landing the MK Dons job. How ready do you need to be?

    He took over mid August so inherited someone else’s squad with potential late transfers. Perhaps he’s just a better coach?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,734
    edited February 2022
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  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,339
    sammy391 said:
    aliwibble said:
    sammy391 said:
    Jackson completely at fault again.
    sent them out with a shocking shape, no game plan and just bizarre team selection.

    have to laugh, jackson who during the week says he wants more physicality this and next season , then decides to play two 5’something midfielders as strikers! Beyond a joke

    yes injuries have hurt us, but we have to plan B - starting to wonder if we have a plan A! 
    Since when was Burstow a 5'something midfielder?
    Jaiyesimi & lee 
    The alternative was to throw in Kanu / Campbell who could yet have their development put back by this sort of form the team is in - We've seen it before, not just with Joe Pigott, yet Karlan Grant too
    Game was lost no pressure on the kids….but DJ was awful and Lee did his usual tricks with no end product so should have thrown them on….
  • DartfordAddick
    DartfordAddick Posts: 1,085
    edited February 2022
    I thought we were alright in the first half and could see there's possibly a good side there with our injured players back in. Once we went a goal down though, you just knew we weren't gonna get anything out of it. Most of these players at the minute have got absolutely no bottle at all, it's a joke. 

    I dunno, maybe I'm just annoyed after a loss.. It just feels like these players go missing the second it gets tough. 

    At least Rotherham beat Morecombe, it's the only half positive I've got. 
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,215
    Gribbo said:
    The players - pathetic little boys who gave up the second they realised play offs is gone.

    JJ - inherited someone else’s squad, under pressure already due to this shite squad, I’m not ready to slag him off yet.
    Are people slagging him off, or is he above criticism?
    People are slagging him off.  People are welcome to criticise him, I’m not going to yet though.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,432
    edited February 2022
    Independent ratings from FotMob and WhoScored.

  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,474
    sammy391 said:
    aliwibble said:
    sammy391 said:
    Jackson completely at fault again.
    sent them out with a shocking shape, no game plan and just bizarre team selection.

    have to laugh, jackson who during the week says he wants more physicality this and next season , then decides to play two 5’something midfielders as strikers! Beyond a joke

    yes injuries have hurt us, but we have to plan B - starting to wonder if we have a plan A! 
    Since when was Burstow a 5'something midfielder?
    Jaiyesimi & lee 
    And the only forward we had on the bench was Kanu, who's played what? 10 minutes of League One football? Would you really want to risk shattering his confidence for the slim hope of him getting a consolation goal, especially given that we weren't really making chances at that point?
  • Impressed with Doncaster at the moment

    Thought they were dead and buried a few weeks ago with Crewe

    They've played two games more, but just four points from safety now.