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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    The guys Slovakian for a start….
    In which case (as I see it), the person who shouted the comment with a Russian **** insult, cannot possibly be accused of making a racist comment as Marosi is Slavik, NOT Russian.
    However, if he had call him a Slovenian **** that would, I assume, have been a racial slur.
    Am I right…..all he’s done is used foul language as far as I can see? 🧐
    No because he’s not Slovenian either 
  • MrWalker
    MrWalker Posts: 4,107
    Slovenia Slovakia and the constant confusion between the two - BBC News
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,485
    edited April 2022
    MrWalker said:
    Slovenia Slovakia and the constant confusion between the two - BBC News
    Less said about Aussie c**** the better.

    Credit where due though, they do well at the surfing considering they're landlocked.

    "Chuck another shrimp on the barbie"
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,232
    The standard of stewarding games went through the floor when agency staff replaced employees.

    Yesterday near my seat in the upper west guys were carrying alcohol to their seats throughout the game.

    One guy was standing next to top of the stairs throughout the second half drinking his lager or balancing it on the safety rails.

    No action from any steward.
  • Crusty54 said:
    The standard of stewarding games went through the floor when agency staff replaced employees.

    Yesterday near my seat in the upper west guys were carrying alcohol to their seats throughout the game.

    One guy was standing next to top of the stairs throughout the second half drinking his lager or balancing it on the safety rails.

    No action from any steward.
    Been like that most of the season in west lower. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,042
    Crusty54 said:
    The standard of stewarding games went through the floor when agency staff replaced employees.

    Yesterday near my seat in the upper west guys were carrying alcohol to their seats throughout the game.

    One guy was standing next to top of the stairs throughout the second half drinking his lager or balancing it on the safety rails.

    No action from any steward.
    I reckon Sandgaard should replace free tickets with allowing a booze whilst watching the game.
    25,000 every game, no problem.
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,232
    Crusty54 said:
    The standard of stewarding games went through the floor when agency staff replaced employees.

    Yesterday near my seat in the upper west guys were carrying alcohol to their seats throughout the game.

    One guy was standing next to top of the stairs throughout the second half drinking his lager or balancing it on the safety rails.

    No action from any steward.
    I reckon Sandgaard should replace free tickets with allowing a booze whilst watching the game.
    25,000 every game, no problem.
    If only it wasn't against the law.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited April 2022
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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,042
    Crusty54 said:
    Crusty54 said:
    The standard of stewarding games went through the floor when agency staff replaced employees.

    Yesterday near my seat in the upper west guys were carrying alcohol to their seats throughout the game.

    One guy was standing next to top of the stairs throughout the second half drinking his lager or balancing it on the safety rails.

    No action from any steward.
    I reckon Sandgaard should replace free tickets with allowing a booze whilst watching the game.
    25,000 every game, no problem.
    If only it wasn't against the law.
    Yessssss, but cricket and rugby still operate without problems.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    edited April 2022
    Crusty54 said:
    The standard of stewarding games went through the floor when agency staff replaced employees.

    Yesterday near my seat in the upper west guys were carrying alcohol to their seats throughout the game.

    One guy was standing next to top of the stairs throughout the second half drinking his lager or balancing it on the safety rails.

    No action from any steward.
    I reckon Sandgaard should replace free tickets with allowing a booze whilst watching the game.
    25,000 every game, no problem.
    Only if he improves the bloody beer. The Heineken in Crossbars yesterday was atrocious. 
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  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,968
    se9addick said:
    Crusty54 said:
    The standard of stewarding games went through the floor when agency staff replaced employees.

    Yesterday near my seat in the upper west guys were carrying alcohol to their seats throughout the game.

    One guy was standing next to top of the stairs throughout the second half drinking his lager or balancing it on the safety rails.

    No action from any steward.
    I reckon Sandgaard should replace free tickets with allowing a booze whilst watching the game.
    25,000 every game, no problem.
    Only if he improves the bloody beer. The Heineken in Crossbars yesterday was atrocious. 
    Heineken IS atrocious.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,042
    se9addick said:
    Crusty54 said:
    The standard of stewarding games went through the floor when agency staff replaced employees.

    Yesterday near my seat in the upper west guys were carrying alcohol to their seats throughout the game.

    One guy was standing next to top of the stairs throughout the second half drinking his lager or balancing it on the safety rails.

    No action from any steward.
    I reckon Sandgaard should replace free tickets with allowing a booze whilst watching the game.
    25,000 every game, no problem.
    Only if he improves the bloody beer. The Heineken in Crossbars yesterday was atrocious. 
    Serve any bottled s*** at £4 the job is a good un.

  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    IdleHans said:
    se9addick said:
    Crusty54 said:
    The standard of stewarding games went through the floor when agency staff replaced employees.

    Yesterday near my seat in the upper west guys were carrying alcohol to their seats throughout the game.

    One guy was standing next to top of the stairs throughout the second half drinking his lager or balancing it on the safety rails.

    No action from any steward.
    I reckon Sandgaard should replace free tickets with allowing a booze whilst watching the game.
    25,000 every game, no problem.
    Only if he improves the bloody beer. The Heineken in Crossbars yesterday was atrocious. 
    Heineken IS atrocious.
    Trust me, they took it to another level yesterday. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,042
    The guys Slovakian for a start….
    In which case (as I see it), the person who shouted the comment with a Russian **** insult, cannot possibly be accused of making a racist comment as Marosi is Slavik, NOT Russian.
    However, if he had call him a Slovenian **** that would, I assume, have been a racial slur.
    Am I right…..all he’s done is used foul language as far as I can see? 🧐
    No because he’s not Slovenian either 
    You need to reread the post of @Soundasa£
  • Crusty54 said:
    Crusty54 said:
    The standard of stewarding games went through the floor when agency staff replaced employees.

    Yesterday near my seat in the upper west guys were carrying alcohol to their seats throughout the game.

    One guy was standing next to top of the stairs throughout the second half drinking his lager or balancing it on the safety rails.

    No action from any steward.
    I reckon Sandgaard should replace free tickets with allowing a booze whilst watching the game.
    25,000 every game, no problem.
    If only it wasn't against the law.
    Yessssss, but cricket and rugby still operate without problems.
    Believe me, at T20 and 100 matches cricket does NOT operate without problems .
  • Maccn05
    Maccn05 Posts: 967
    Unfortunately your right on the limited overs cricket and the drinking culture.

    Not sure if it’s the football crowd moving over or the cricket crowd picking up on the behaviour.

    ive seen lots of OTT drunken behaviour but I’d say I’ve never seen any abuse being dished out.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,480
    edited April 2022
    The guys Slovakian for a start….
    In which case (as I see it), the person who shouted the comment with a Russian **** insult, cannot possibly be accused of making a racist comment as Marosi is Slavik, NOT Russian.
    However, if he had call him a Slovenian **** that would, I assume, have been a racial slur.
    Am I right…..all he’s done is used foul language as far as I can see? 🧐
    No because he’s not Slovenian either 
    Aaaagh…..you English c**t SoundAs! 😂
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    I went with my brother in law to watch England play the Barbarians at Twickenham.  There was a large group of extremely drunk blokes from the west country and their behaviour towards the others in the stand was horrendous.  Not what I expected and at football it would have either ended in a huge fight or with them being removed.  At the game nobody else batted an eyelid, drunk lewd and overtly sexual, it isn't just football.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,042
    Crusty54 said:
    Crusty54 said:
    The standard of stewarding games went through the floor when agency staff replaced employees.

    Yesterday near my seat in the upper west guys were carrying alcohol to their seats throughout the game.

    One guy was standing next to top of the stairs throughout the second half drinking his lager or balancing it on the safety rails.

    No action from any steward.
    I reckon Sandgaard should replace free tickets with allowing a booze whilst watching the game.
    25,000 every game, no problem.
    If only it wasn't against the law.
    Yessssss, but cricket and rugby still operate without problems.
    Believe me, at T20 and 100 matches cricket does NOT operate without problems .
    Okay, things must have changed.  As an aside, the stewarding and catering for years at The Valley has been appalling.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,849
    cfgs said:
    I went with my brother in law to watch England play the Barbarians at Twickenham.  There was a large group of extremely drunk blokes from the west country and their behaviour towards the others in the stand was horrendous.  Not what I expected and at football it would have either ended in a huge fight or with them being removed.  At the game nobody else batted an eyelid, drunk lewd and overtly sexual, it isn't just football.
    There have been a number of recent problems concerning drinking at rugby matches, e.g. this horrible incident in Cardiff

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59372210
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  • cfgs said:
    I went with my brother in law to watch England play the Barbarians at Twickenham.  There was a large group of extremely drunk blokes from the west country and their behaviour towards the others in the stand was horrendous.  Not what I expected and at football it would have either ended in a huge fight or with them being removed.  At the game nobody else batted an eyelid, drunk lewd and overtly sexual, it isn't just football.
    Again absolutely right. Huge problems, for example, at the Principality Stadium in Cardiff where the authorities are under pressure to ban the sale of alcohol inside the stadium. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,042
    As long as I have read this right, somebody was sick but no violence or abuse 
    I have scrolled quickly.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    What I don’t really get is why there’s so much anger and nastiness. I certainly when I was younger used to dish out abuse to opposing players and fans, but it was never done with any hate. So many people seem so angry nowadays, I don’t get why?
    Sums it up for me.
    I posted a picture of the incident on the thread, without actually reading more than the first couple of posts. As it’s all so confused I’ll delete it now. If I’ve gone past the time when I can do that would one of the mods mind doing it for me please?
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    The guys Slovakian for a start….
    In which case (as I see it), the person who shouted the comment with a Russian **** insult, cannot possibly be accused of making a racist comment as Marosi is Slavik, NOT Russian.
    However, if he had call him a Slovenian **** that would, I assume, have been a racial slur.
    Am I right…..all he’s done is used foul language as far as I can see? 🧐
    Would calling a Bangladeshi a smelly Indian be ok? 
  • Cloudworm
    Cloudworm Posts: 975
    When you live as a minority, it’s different. If you’re called an English xxxx in England, it doesn’t really impact. When you’re the only one, or one of a few, it cuts a bit deeper. For me, prejudice based on nationality is as bad as any other form. Anything we don’t choose, shouldn’t be used as a stick to beat us with.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,026
    @JamesSeed, Thank you for deleting the picture from your post.  

    @Maccn05 and @stop_shouting, you'll see I've also edited your posts to remove the picture in the quote from James. Hopefully that's got all copies of it, but if there's any I've missed please let me know.

    Gentle reminder to all. If there's something you'd like removed from someone else's post, it's best to remove it from any quotes you make of the original or subsequent posts as sometimes these things take on a life of their own. If you need to quote the whole thing it may be better to do it in a PM to a mod rather than in another public post. Cheers all.
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    Cloudworm said:
    When you live as a minority, it’s different. If you’re called an English xxxx in England, it doesn’t really impact. When you’re the only one, or one of a few, it cuts a bit deeper. For me, prejudice based on nationality is as bad as any other form. Anything we don’t choose, shouldn’t be used as a stick to beat us with.
    The worst is being called an American/Yank _____
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,149
    Is the deleted picture the one where you can only see the backs of Charlton fans heads …
    In all honesty I don’t reckon I’d recognise any of them in a line up 🙄
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,042
    The guys Slovakian for a start….
    Schooled over here I believe, with flawless English.
    Unlike the low brows that now attend matches.
    Football used to be a working classes game.
    Working class is not low row unless you are an idle loafer like Jacob Rees-Mogg,  MP for 1869. 
    Still if you can find a fault with something I state,I suppose you will. 
    I was not finding fault.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,848
    edited April 2022
    Cloudworm said:
    When you live as a minority, it’s different. If you’re called an English xxxx in England, it doesn’t really impact. When you’re the only one, or one of a few, it cuts a bit deeper. For me, prejudice based on nationality is as bad as any other form. Anything we don’t choose, shouldn’t be used as a stick to beat us with.
    You see that's where, in my view, this type of argument falls down.

    You cant say theres one rule for one and another rule for another. It's not equitable. It's either wrong to mention someones nationality or it's not.

    Saying it's alright to be called an "English xxxx" in England, presumably by someone who's not English, is absolute bullshit. You either shouldn't bring nationality into it or else surely every nationality is fair game?