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Sandgaard ownership discussion 2022-3 onwards (Meeting with CAST p138)

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  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    J BLOCK said:
    How reliable are these sources that we are up for sale? More importantly are these buyers ones that have the required dosh to put us on an upwardly mobile direction or are they ESI type characters?
    No one has said we’re up for sale (unfortunately).
    I apogise I thought I read somewhere TS was looking to sell, my mistake.
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    How reliable are these sources that we are up for sale? More importantly are these buyers ones that have the required dosh to put us on an upwardly mobile direction or are they ESI type characters?
    Difference between being up for sale and people looking to buy. Not sure about the first but confident about the second. And the money.
    Well 2nd part is good news, just need 1st part to be true!
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,069
    I think it's fairly obvious Sandgaard will sell if he gets a decent offer. Unless he has a fetish for losing lots of money funding a L1 flirting with relegation 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    What is a decent offer though? £2 instead of £1? £1m or £2m?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,989
    edited October 2022
    Here's a follow up to carly burn's post.
    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/zynex-anticipates-no-material-change-in-revenue-from-switch-in-united-health-care-prescription-coverage-301485447.html#:~:text=The decision to terminate the,Healthcare was a mutual one."

    I note the claim says "We do not expect Zynex to experience any material changes in revenue throughout 2022 due to shifts in United Healthcare's reimbursement program," said Thomas Sandgaard, CEO".

    In other words revenues will fall after 2022?
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,125
    Dazzler21 said:
    Have been told months ago that TS will look you straight in the eyes, and without blinking, tell you blatant lies...allegedly. 

    He'd definitely be an out & out winner on " Call my bluff" ! 
     I have chatted to him a few times and can validate this. He felt so genuine each time. I'm so frustrated by how well he lies. 

    Apologies in order to @Maccn05 from me that is for sure. 

    You were right early on and I apologise.
    You've chatted with TS face to face a few times?
    #grindr
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,458
    edited October 2022
    This is a good one. Fairly long but paints a picture of Sandgaard towards the end
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,284
    edited October 2022
    This is a good one. Fairly long but paints a picture of Sandgaard towards the end
    Like I said raging narcissist, wants to pretend he’s cleverer than everyone else.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Fumbluff said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Have been told months ago that TS will look you straight in the eyes, and without blinking, tell you blatant lies...allegedly. 

    He'd definitely be an out & out winner on " Call my bluff" ! 
     I have chatted to him a few times and can validate this. He felt so genuine each time. I'm so frustrated by how well he lies. 

    Apologies in order to @Maccn05 from me that is for sure. 

    You were right early on and I apologise.
    You've chatted with TS face to face a few times?
    #grindr
    Fuck thought I'd hidden my profile well. 

    I have spoken once face to face and several times over messages.
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,905
    How reliable are these sources that we are up for sale? More importantly are these buyers ones that have the required dosh to put us on an upwardly mobile direction or are they ESI type characters?
    Difference between being up for sale and people looking to buy. Not sure about the first but confident about the second. And the money.
    I take this post as a positive AB. If he can get out of this mess with any sort of credibility and also salvage some of his losses TS would be mad not to grab  it as it stands. All the recent goings on have turned turned most of the support against him and I just cant see what he can do that would turn that around. Hopefully what you are alluding too comes to pass and we dont end up with another bunch of crooks
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  • How reliable are these sources that we are up for sale? More importantly are these buyers ones that have the required dosh to put us on an upwardly mobile direction or are they ESI type characters?
    Difference between being up for sale and people looking to buy. Not sure about the first but confident about the second. And the money.
    But what are people looking to buy? The club from Thomas or the ground as well from Roland?
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,254
    How reliable are these sources that we are up for sale? More importantly are these buyers ones that have the required dosh to put us on an upwardly mobile direction or are they ESI type characters?
    Difference between being up for sale and people looking to buy. Not sure about the first but confident about the second. And the money.
    But what are people looking to buy? The club from Thomas or the ground as well from Roland?
    The other assets like Aneke’s remaining 3 years ;-) 
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    My final contribution for today. I promise B)  

    I imagine that if TS sells, he'll have to pay RD an early termination fee on his lease agreement as RD will have to negotiate with another party to take it on. 

    Alternatively, RD might then decide to sell outright, but I doubt he's ready to do that yet. He'll want to have more regular income streams and bide his time waiting for property prices to go up markedly, narrowing the gap between what he shelled out and what he ultimately gets back.

    Also, we don't know what RD's personal tax arrangements are and what his preference is for receiving income over capital gains from asset sales, which might impact his decision making. Therefore, for someone to make him an offer he simply can't refuse might be necessary to convince him to sell.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited October 2022
    Fumbluff said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Have been told months ago that TS will look you straight in the eyes, and without blinking, tell you blatant lies...allegedly. 

    He'd definitely be an out & out winner on " Call my bluff" ! 
     I have chatted to him a few times and can validate this. He felt so genuine each time. I'm so frustrated by how well he lies. 

    Apologies in order to @Maccn05 from me that is for sure. 

    You were right early on and I apologise.
    You've chatted with TS face to face a few times?
    #grindr
    Tonight’s it’s do or die…….

    ”60 something danish american looking for no strings relationship.”  “I say no strings, but if you want a good strum, I’m your man”. 
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,125
    “Jogging down the rim”









    (clean sheet win, clean sheet win)
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
     On a mission, gonna tear you up”
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Can we all perhaps make a pact to hold off from immediately going balls deep and rolling out the red carpet and hero worship with the next potential chancer who turns up with the keys to big top tent of CAFC until they actually demonstrate actions to back up words whoever that may be.

    I know that will be difficult given it's in our DNA now from the past 15 years but it may save a fair bit of heartache and dignity down the road.
    I have never inserted the tip, never mind balls deep, rolled out a carpet or hero worshiped any owner including the spivs, Southall and this latest clown. 

    I don't trust anybody, in life not just football until they have proved their worth to me.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited October 2022
    Roland is much less of a problem than he was two years ago.

    Thomas will sell.

    The "total package" will cost less than the aussies agreed, especially if your not paying in £s.

    Mistic Meg time but I suspect our next owner will be greated with much more hostility/scepticism than the last half a dozen but after about 18 months we will be much happier.

    The next two owners are critical :wink:
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  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,885
    How reliable are these sources that we are up for sale? More importantly are these buyers ones that have the required dosh to put us on an upwardly mobile direction or are they ESI type characters?
    Difference between being up for sale and people looking to buy. Not sure about the first but confident about the second. And the money.
    But what are people looking to buy? The club from Thomas or the ground as well from Roland?
    I think they have the right idea.
    Are you able to share what you do know rather than being cryptic or are you bound by some sort of confidence?
  • kentred2
    kentred2 Posts: 2,335
    Where’s the takeover thread? 
  • Cardinal Sin
    Cardinal Sin Posts: 5,233
    I’m surprised if we pay Castore for playing kit or have received £500k from UoG. Our shirt sponsorship deals are worth nothing approaching that.

    I do think there are potential buyers about.

     @ £25 million?

    I suppose it's a fine balance. Separating the serious money men from the pound shop pond life. A higher price I would assume dissuade the latter but it would have to be realistic.
    Would Sandgaard care who he hands the baton to if he saw a way of maximising a return?

    I guess there good buyers and there are bad buyers and the good ones either haven't found a way yet of acquiring us after umpteen years of being up for sale at various times or when it boiled down to it they just really haven't fancied us.
    The Pound Shop Pond Life will be offering One Pound. The Serious Money Men will be offering Zero Pounds.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    How reliable are these sources that we are up for sale? More importantly are these buyers ones that have the required dosh to put us on an upwardly mobile direction or are they ESI type characters?
    Difference between being up for sale and people looking to buy. Not sure about the first but confident about the second. And the money.
    But what are people looking to buy? The club from Thomas or the ground as well from Roland?
    I think they have the right idea.
    Oh, so they ain't buying either then....
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    edited October 2022
    [A long detailed post that we really don't need to quote in full]
    Agree
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,865
    edited October 2022
    [A long detailed post that we really don't need to quote in full]
    The most fair and accurate assessment.