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Sandgaard ownership discussion 2022-3 onwards (Meeting with CAST p138)

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  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,223
    Hope she knows how to queue.
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,167
    edited October 2022
    Just as an aside.

    Simon Hallet the owner of table topping Plymouth Argyle who are now hitting genuine gates of over 15,000, has a net worth of $83 Millon. I would think this is less than a third of TS.


    I've never been to Plymouth so don't know the grpound.  One of Sandgaard's biggest issues is that the valley is a hugely expensive overhead with only L1 attendance - hence his desire to "fill the valley".  Matchday costs for security, stewards, police, cleaners, etc. plus the weekly fixed costs of electricity, groundsman, etc, etc. would probably be OK for a Championship/lower prem team but in L1 must be a big drain on resources.  Obviously a lot more to it but, like so many have already said, the only way he will increase attendance is (1) On field performance must improve and score goals and win games.  (2) Reduce the ticket prices (more than the recent token)...then he might have a chance!
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,890
    I've also heard that Ashley has bought kittens and bunnies for other members of his immediate family.

    If that's true, then how could we not welcome him to the club (irrespective of the staff issues at Sports Direct).
  • Sensei
    Sensei Posts: 233
    Fascinating table from Bob.
    Ashley bought the club in 2007 and sold it in 2021 so he was the only owner during the period that the table has been calculated.  If correct then the table suggests Newcastle United have the 10th highest transfer budget deficit at £181,840,000.  If true then it completely contradicts the earlier post (forgive me I can't recall who posted it) which contained a graphic stating that Newcastle had a transfer budget surplus during his ownership.

    Unless of course he sold loads of players during the period 2007-2010?
  • Just as an aside.

    Simon Hallet the owner of table topping Plymouth Argyle who are now hitting genuine gates of over 15,000, has a net worth of $83 Millon. I would think this is less than a third of TS.


    Reminds me of something Mr F once told me when we started courting :

    It's not how much you've got, but the way that you use it".

    Until now, I had no idea what he meant.....
    I’m trying to work out if you got a tingle or not from that statement ……

    😉
    Well we've been married for 52 years .....
  • Just as an aside.

    Simon Hallet the owner of table topping Plymouth Argyle who are now hitting genuine gates of over 15,000, has a net worth of $83 Millon. I would think this is less than a third of TS.


    Reminds me of something Mr F once told me when we started courting :

    It's not how much you've got, but the way that you use it".

    Until now, I had no idea what he meant.....
    I’m trying to work out if you got a tingle or not from that statement ……

    😉
    Well we've been married for 52 years .....
    So more than a tingle 😀
  • Do people think if a serious amount of money was available for naming rights over The Valley that successive regimes would have rejected it? Regimes with such a strong attraction to the club’s traditions and history as Duchatelet’s? Or the spivs?

    Charlton struggle to get six figures for shirt sponsorship. Look at the matchday ads on the new boards and figure how many are contras or freebies. Look at the empty kit sponsorship pages in the programme. The market isn’t there for Charlton in L1.

    Sure, someone like Ashley can plaster the ground with their own ads, but I seriously doubt it is worth any significant amount in cash terms. 
    So much ado about nothing then!
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,030
    Just as an aside.

    Simon Hallet the owner of table topping Plymouth Argyle who are now hitting genuine gates of over 15,000, has a net worth of $83 Millon. I would think this is less than a third of TS.



    And they've just got additional investment from America too, a Swedish NHL player was involved too. Paid £4m for 20%

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62395642

  • Gammon
    Gammon Posts: 338
    Bilko said:
    Who’s ready to support the team at the SportsDirect.com Valley?
    It will always be The Valley to me. Anyone with a right mind will call it that regardless. So I wouldn’t have a problem with it, I’m afraid it’s the sign of the times.
    Probably in the minority but I’d hate this with a passion. Completely the opposite of what I want football and especially Charlton to be like. I honestly would rather be in league 2 with our own identity than be promoted as a plastic football club
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,350
    JUST a quiet six months off the field please...  That's all I want.  I can take the team being shit, I am used to that but it is the constant shenanigans, the shysters, the rockin roll wannabes that have ground me down
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  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,284
    Gammon said:
    Bilko said:
    Who’s ready to support the team at the SportsDirect.com Valley?
    It will always be The Valley to me. Anyone with a right mind will call it that regardless. So I wouldn’t have a problem with it, I’m afraid it’s the sign of the times.
    Probably in the minority but I’d hate this with a passion. Completely the opposite of what I want football and especially Charlton to be like. I honestly would rather be in league 2 with our own identity than be promoted as a plastic football club
    Are you enjoying the football at the moment?
    it will only get worse for us to end up in league 2
  • Boom
    Boom Posts: 1,679
    NO ZIMMER FRAMES!
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited October 2022
    Five foot? Sounds more like @ElfsborgAddick but he’s only 58😉
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,125
    RedChaser said:
    Five foot? Sounds more like @Elfsborg but he’s only 58😉
    58 my arse
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited October 2022
    Fumbluff said:
    RedChaser said:
    Five foot? Sounds more like @Elfsborg but he’s only 58😉
    58 my arse
    You are 11 short...
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  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,418
    edited October 2022
    @Redmidland’ s youngest boy 😉
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,458
    Mike Ashley at the ground.






    Correction. He's just landed his helicopter in the car park to pick up a cat litter tray from 46 Harvey gardens!
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,284
    Boom 💥 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034
    Who needs Mike Ashley, we’ve got Tommy S! 
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,450

    American billionaire John McEvoy is considering a bid to buy Championship club Coventry City and the Coventry Building Society Arena.

    Any takeover would be headed up by John Dawkins, a Sky Blues fan who is the UK managing director of record label Various Artists Management.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63219478

  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    edited October 2022
    Do people think if a serious amount of money was available for naming rights over The Valley that successive regimes would have rejected it? Regimes with such a strong attraction to the club’s traditions and history as Duchatelet’s? Or the spivs?

    Charlton struggle to get six figures for shirt sponsorship. Look at the matchday ads on the new boards and figure how many are contras or freebies. Look at the empty kit sponsorship pages in the programme. The market isn't there for Charlton in L1.

    Sure, someone like Ashley can plaster the ground with their own ads, but I seriously doubt it is worth any significant amount in cash terms. 
    It wasn't in the Championship either.

    Sponsors do seem to be attracted to other Clubs though, many of smaller stature than us, who must find it generates enough revenue to make it worthwhile, so good for them.

    It's not a ponderable I'd waste much time on, but isn't there more to it than just league standing to explain the obvious lack of interest as it's so commonplace these days, or so it seems to me?
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,167
    Scoham said:
    Speaking as a shareholder that is all good news...surprised there was no background guitar music though.