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Sandgaard ownership discussion 2022-3 onwards (Meeting with CAST p138)

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  • Cardinal SinCardinal Sin
    lonman said:
    Charlton_Road_James said:

    TBH maybe his son shouldn't say it. But I reckon it's true. The uplift in numbers will be marginal. Happy to be proved wrong. 
    The uplift in fans will be marginal, just like the size of the discounts.
  • The Red RobinThe Red Robin
    Cafc43v3r said:
    charltonbob said:
    WSS said:
    I know it's mental saying this but I think Mike Ashley would be excellent for us. We'd not agree with all of his decisions (renaming the stadium) but I think we'd end up in a much better place than we have been for a few years.

    Can't believe I typed that.
    No matter what  any new owner renamed The Valley as, it would still be the Valley to us & no doubt all/most of football
    Valley Parade has been "named" for a long time but I have never heard anyone ever call it anything other than Valley Parade.  The same is/was true of Odsal.

    I live in Bradford before someone says they have never heard anyone call it anything :wink: 
    Same and I couldn’t even tell you what the official sponsored name is at the moment. 
  • Oh Eddie Youds...Oh Eddie Youds...
    Callumcafc said:
    Who’s ready to support the team at the SportsDirect.com Valley?
    Happy to accept that if Ashley also gives Garner the funds to get out of the third tier.
  • colthe3rdcolthe3rd
    Well I suppose moving to another owner with a track record of paying peanuts for staff and treating them like shit would be familiar.
  • MuttleyCAFCMuttleyCAFC
    But there is no evidence that of those potentially interested, Ashley is one of them. In fact we have been told he isn't. 
  • North Lower NeilNorth Lower Neil
    edited October 2022
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    Croydon said:
    Clem_Snide said:
    Jesus. Are people really seeing Ashley as a reasonable replacement for Sandergaard?

    There has been uproar about the treatment of staff, look at the treatment of Sports Direct Staff under Ashley's watch......

    Newcastle fans despise him. We would simply be jumping from a sinking ship to a burning one.
    Newcastle fans despise him from nothing other than their own delusions of grandeur.
    I can't agree with that.

    His net spend on transfers was something like £3m a year while others spent millions, and while they were getting a load in TV money etc, plus he used them for however much free advertising.

    He was like a Glazers-lite type in that respect.

    He appointed the likes of Kinnear, McClaren, Pardew (recently sacked by L1 Southampton) etc.  They got relegated twice under his ownership.

    There are worse owners, but there are far better too.
    So he kept them in the prem for the vast majority of his ownership and isn’t good enough for some Charlton fans? 

    Maybe it’s not Newcastle that are the deluded idiots. 
    Everyone's a critic!

    I've said above there are a lot worse owners, but there are a lot better too.

    He didn't keep a club the size of us in the Premier League for years on end.  He kept a club that by rights should probably be there every season (and had been for 15 years) in the league for most of the seasons he was there, getting relegated twice  using their own money and not his for the most part.

    I don't get why thinking a guy who took money out of a club, appointed some terrible managers there etc was all sunshine and light is that deluded.
  • Chris_from_SidcupChris_from_Sidcup
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    Croydon said:
    Clem_Snide said:
    Jesus. Are people really seeing Ashley as a reasonable replacement for Sandergaard?

    There has been uproar about the treatment of staff, look at the treatment of Sports Direct Staff under Ashley's watch......

    Newcastle fans despise him. We would simply be jumping from a sinking ship to a burning one.
    Newcastle fans despise him from nothing other than their own delusions of grandeur.
    I can't agree with that.

    His net spend on transfers was something like £3m a year while others spent millions, and while they were getting a load in TV money etc, plus he used them for however much free advertising.

    He was like a Glazers-lite type in that respect.

    He appointed the likes of Kinnear, McClaren, Pardew (recently sacked by L1 Southampton) etc.  They got relegated twice under his ownership.

    There are worse owners, but there are far better too.
    So he kept them in the prem for the vast majority of his ownership and isn’t good enough for some Charlton fans? 

    Maybe it’s not Newcastle that are the deluded idiots. 
    "Kept them in the prem" - after the big 6, Newcastle are probably the next biggest club in the country. A club of their size should arguably be finishing top 10 every year, but he spent so little they were relegated twice.

    Yes he got them back up, but even then you could argue a club with 50k fans, some half decent PL players and PL parachute payments should be pissing the championship anyway. Norwich do it every other year, so getting Newcastle back up is not an achievement.

    I accept his ambitions (or lack of) with Newcastle would be completely different to what he'd need to do with us, but i'm simply putting a case forward of why Newcastle fans hated him, which many can't seem to understand.

    Having said that though, i'd take him as our owner now simply because he'd have no choice but to invest and that is a million times better than what we're doing right now.
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  • ScohamScoham
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    But there is no evidence that of those potentially interested, Ashley is one of them. In fact we have been told he isn't. 
    We’ve also been told he’s interested and could be at a game soon.
  • Six-a-bag-of-nutsSix-a-bag-of-nuts
    edited October 2022
    Given that we have absolutely zero say in who Thomas sells to, I can't say I would be disappointed if it turns out to be Ashley when you think of the possible alternatives.
    Anyway, it seems a bit foolish debating the merits of a potential owner who has not given any indication he's interested.
    Edit. Just read scohams post above that suggests he is interested. Go for it Mike
  • se9addickse9addick
    Is there any actual evidence of Mike Ashley being interested in buying Charlton?
  • thenewbiethenewbie
    se9addick said:
    Is there any actual evidence of Mike Ashley being interested in buying Charlton?
    Yes, for a given value of evidence:

    ButtleJR said:
    Ashley is interested, floating around the club at the moment. 


    Posted yesterday by a poster with a fairly decent record for accuracy.

  • BolderhumphreyreidBolderhumphreyreid
    Chunes said:
    killerandflash said:
    I had a call from the club today (and a subsequent email) from someone called Christos Apostolopoulos,  "Commercial Sales Executive", a contact for season ticket holders. And trying to promote packages as my birthday is later on this month, for which I politely declined - just watching us play MK Dons on the 25th will be bad enough!

    Is this someone new?
    He called me when I bought our season tickets. He said: "Welcome to the club" which I found a bit of a strange line considering I've been supporting Charlton for decades. Maybe I should be the one welcoming him to the club. 
    You'd better get in quick before he goes.
  • Dave2lDave2l
    Loads of people have declared interest in buying Charlton in the past.

    We always get browsed...then they either usually pull out and think nah not worth the agro, or they do buy us and a year later make it clear that it was a huge mistake.

    My way of trying to brighten the mood this morning 

  • SouthNorwoodAddickSouthNorwoodAddick
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/thomas-sandgaard-addresses-reports-he-has-cut-140k-of-funding-for-charlton-athletics-academy/

    States the figure is inaccurate, then goes on to list the ways he is cutting costs 😂
  • CroydonCroydon
    Newcastle haven't won the league since the 20s, and haven't won a major trophy since the 50s. Why does a big stadium entitle them to success?
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  • Arthur_TrudgillArthur_Trudgill
    Is a partnership TS/Ashley too outrageous?
  • seth plumseth plum
    I am interested in buying Charlton.
    Once I win big on Euromillions.
  • EugenesAxeEugenesAxe
    SouthNorwoodAddick said:
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/thomas-sandgaard-addresses-reports-he-has-cut-140k-of-funding-for-charlton-athletics-academy/

    States the figure is inaccurate, then goes on to list the ways he is cutting costs 😂
    Proper politicians answer there by trying to deflect it onto the players the academy produces.
  • _MrDick_MrDick
    seth plum said:
    I am interested in buying Charlton.
    Once I win big on Euromillions.
    Even then, a big EuroMillions win won't be enough
  • carly burncarly burn
    edited October 2022


    Bet Dr Raylennes retinas have been burning holes in the back of their heads though!
  • NorthheathAddickNorthheathAddick
    Arthur_Trudgill said:
    Is a partnership TS/Ashley too outrageous?
    Mike Ashley on the drums…🥁


    oh & I would also take Ashley as owner right now too..!!,we will again run out of options soon
  • charlton_herocharlton_hero
  • Chris_from_SidcupChris_from_Sidcup
    edited October 2022
    Croydon said:
    Newcastle haven't won the league since the 20s, and haven't won a major trophy since the 50s. Why does a big stadium entitle them to success?
    No one said it entitles them to success, but if you're an established PL club (as they were for 15+ years before their first relegation under Ashley) with 50k fans turning up each week, then as fans i think you're entitled to expect better than a net spend of around 10m a season. And even that only increased in the last 3-4 years of his ownership as he realised he needed to invest a bit more to keep the club value up when he was looking to sell.

    Is it really that much different to us wanting a new owner because TS is cutting costs and won't invest in the team and we're sat below the likes of Exeter, Shrewsbury, Port Vale, Fleetwood, Accrington and Cheltenham?

    As fans we don't think we're entitled to success (we are Charlton after all), but generally i think we expect to have a decent team and be better than those clubs i've named above. And it was the same for Newcastle when they were in a relegation battle, sat below the likes of Swansea, Watford and Bournemouth.
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