We haven't even opened up a takeover thread yet and some are vilifying Ashley. Unbelievable! I'd be amazed if he came anywhere near us, but apparently he might take a look, so there's hope there.
Any prospective new owner attending a game at the Valley this season is unlikely to be impressed by the attendances. As TS did, you buy for potential but have to operate within restrictions that are currently in place, such as the player wage budget driven by turnover. Unfortunately, as ours is relatively low at present, whoever takes over will know it's not likely that they can effect a short-term fix and that fans will be impatient for success.
L1 is killing us! Beggars can't be choosers and, in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
Given that we have absolutely zero say in who Thomas sells to, I can't say I would be disappointed if it turns out to be Ashley when you think of the possible alternatives. Anyway, it seems a bit foolish debating the merits of a potential owner who has not given any indication he's interested. Edit. Just read scohams post above that suggests he is interested. Go for it Mike
I had a call from the club today (and a subsequent email) from someone called Christos Apostolopoulos, "Commercial Sales Executive", a contact for season ticket holders. And trying to promote packages as my birthday is later on this month, for which I politely declined - just watching us play MK Dons on the 25th will be bad enough!
Is this someone new?
He called me when I bought our season tickets. He said: "Welcome to the club" which I found a bit of a strange line considering I've been supporting Charlton for decades. Maybe I should be the one welcoming him to the club.
Loads of people have declared interest in buying Charlton in the past.
We always get browsed...then they either usually pull out and think nah not worth the agro, or they do buy us and a year later make it clear that it was a huge mistake.
My way of trying to brighten the mood this morning
Newcastle haven't won the league since the 20s, and haven't won a major trophy since the 50s. Why does a big stadium entitle them to success?
No one said it entitles them to success, but if you're an established PL club (as they were for 15+ years before their first relegation under Ashley) with 50k fans turning up each week, then as fans i think you're entitled to expect better than a net spend of around 10m a season. And even that only increased in the last 3-4 years of his ownership as he realised he needed to invest a bit more to keep the club value up when he was looking to sell.
Is it really that much different to us wanting a new owner because TS is cutting costs and won't invest in the team and we're sat below the likes of Exeter, Shrewsbury, Port Vale, Fleetwood, Accrington and Cheltenham?
As fans we don't think we're entitled to success (we are Charlton after all), but generally i think we expect to have a decent team and be better than those clubs i've named above. And it was the same for Newcastle when they were in a relegation battle, sat below the likes of Swansea, Watford and Bournemouth.
Was Ashley good at negotiations for players who were leaving Newcastle? I remember when Liverpool signed Andy Carroll for 35million and there was outrage.
He might warm to charltons academy prospects...and wouldn't sell them off straight away, or at least wait for an actual decent offer
You look at those numbers and wonder how clubs like ourselves, Wigan & Birmingham got themselves into so much trouble. And then you remember who we all had as owners over those ten years.
Ashley is interested, floating around the club at the moment.
Ashley is bad news. I have some Newcastle supporting friends and he is loathed for good reason. The way he ran the club was awful. The way he treats his workers is awful. He's just generally a clueless man. Just because he has money doesn't make him smart.
Once again, it could get better than TS, but it could get a lot worse. And how well someone runs a football club isn't just down to their bank balance.
Ashley is interested, floating around the club at the moment.
Ashley is bad news. I have some Newcastle supporting friends and he is loathed for good reason. The way he ran the club was awful. The way he treats his workers is awful. He's just generally a clueless man. Just because he has money doesn't make him smart.
Once again, it could get better than TS, but it could get a lot worse. And how well someone runs a football club isn't just down to their bank balance.
I think there could be an argument to suggest it is. Newcastle fans will turn on their mega-rich owners if they don't win anything in the next 3-5 years. That's what their fanbase is like.
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Any prospective new owner attending a game at the Valley this season is unlikely to be impressed by the attendances. As TS did, you buy for potential but have to operate within restrictions that are currently in place, such as the player wage budget driven by turnover. Unfortunately, as ours is relatively low at present, whoever takes over will know it's not likely that they can effect a short-term fix and that fans will be impatient for success.
L1 is killing us! Beggars can't be choosers and, in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
Anyway, it seems a bit foolish debating the merits of a potential owner who has not given any indication he's interested.
Edit. Just read scohams post above that suggests he is interested. Go for it Mike
ButtleJR said:
Posted yesterday by a poster with a fairly decent record for accuracy.
We always get browsed...then they either usually pull out and think nah not worth the agro, or they do buy us and a year later make it clear that it was a huge mistake.
My way of trying to brighten the mood this morning
States the figure is inaccurate, then goes on to list the ways he is cutting costs 😂
Once I win big on Euromillions.
Bet Dr Raylennes retinas have been burning holes in the back of their heads though!
oh & I would also take Ashley as owner right now too..!!,we will again run out of options soon
Is it really that much different to us wanting a new owner because TS is cutting costs and won't invest in the team and we're sat below the likes of Exeter, Shrewsbury, Port Vale, Fleetwood, Accrington and Cheltenham?
As fans we don't think we're entitled to success (we are Charlton after all), but generally i think we expect to have a decent team and be better than those clubs i've named above. And it was the same for Newcastle when they were in a relegation battle, sat below the likes of Swansea, Watford and Bournemouth.
Rank
League
Club
Transfer balance
1
Premier League
Manchester City
-£867,280,000
2
Premier League
Manchester United
-£814,750,000
3
Premier League
Chelsea FC
-£410,310,000
4
Premier League
Arsenal FC
-£380,250,000
5
Premier League
Liverpool FC
-£335,580,000
6
Premier League
Everton FC
-£271,600,000
7
Premier League
Aston Villa
-£263,350,000
8
Premier League
West Ham United
-£256,830,000
9
Premier League
Brighton & Hove Albion
-£187,350,000
10
Premier League
Newcastle United
-£181,840,000
11
Premier League
Wolverhampton Wanderers
-£177,290,000
12
Championship
Stoke City
-£160,600,000
13
Premier League
Fulham FC
-£148,010,000
14
Premier League
Leicester City
-£140,520,000
15
Premier League
Tottenham Hotspur
-£135,830,000
16
Premier League
Crystal Palace
-£134,480,000
17
Premier League
West Bromwich Albion
-£107,550,000
18
Championship
AFC Bournemouth
-£102,470,000
19
Championship
Cardiff City
-£85,150,000
20
Championship
Watford FC
-£84,910,000
21
Premier League
Sheffield United
-£78,830,000
22
League 1
Sunderland AFC
-£62,740,000
23
Premier League
Burnley FC
-£58,400,000
24
Premier League
Southampton FC
-£57,810,000
25
Championship
Queens Park Rangers
-£54,540,000
26
Championship
Huddersfield Town
-£46,170,000
27
Premier League
Leeds United
-£41,860,000
28
Championship
Sheffield Wednesday
-£33,730,000
29
Championship
Derby County
-£31,350,000
30
Championship
Middlesbrough FC
-£30,030,000
31
Championship
Norwich City
-£14,200,000
32
League 1
Hull City
-£13,080,000
33
Championship
Reading FC
-£11,480,000
34
League 2
Harrogate Town
-£23,000
35
League 2
Salford City
-£7,000
36
League 2
Barrow
£104,000
37
League 1
Lincoln City
£144,000
38
League 2
Morecambe FC
£198,000
39
League 2
Cambridge United
£351,000
40
League 2
Port Vale
£365,000
41
League 2
Mansfield Town
£426,000
42
League 1
Fleetwood Town
£431,000
43
League 1
AFC Wimbledon
£588,000
44
League 2
Forest Green Rovers
£771,000
45
League 2
Tranmere Rovers
£788,000
46
League 2
Grimsby Town
£846,000
47
League 2
Southend United
£851,000
48
League 2
Oldham Athletic
£985,000
49
League 2
Cheltenham Town
£1,140,000
50
Championship
Wycombe Wanderers
£1,179,000
51
League 1
Plymouth Argyle
£1,330,000
52
League 1
Burton Albion
£1,420,000
53
League 2
Carlisle United
£1,660,000
54
League 2
Colchester United
£1,680,000
55
League 2
Scunthorpe United
£1,730,000
56
League 1
Northampton Town
£1,870,000
57
League 1
Shrewsbury Town
£1,980,000
58
League 2
Leyton Orient
£1,980,000
59
Championship
Millwall FC
£2,100,000
60
League 2
Bradford City
£2,120,000
61
League 1
Accrington Stanley
£2,570,000
62
League 2
Crawley Town
£2,730,000
63
League 2
Stevenage FC
£2,920,000
64
League 1
Rochdale AFC
£3,040,000
65
League 2
Newport County
£3,060,000
66
League 1
Gillingham FC
£3,200,000
67
League 1
Portsmouth FC
£3,360,000
68
League 2
Walsall FC
£3,370,000
69
League 1
Bristol Rovers
£3,680,000
70
Championship
Rotherham United
£3,900,000
71
League 1
Doncaster Rovers
£4,250,000
72
League 1
Swindon Town
£6,290,000
73
League 2
Exeter City
£8,940,000
74
League 2
Bolton Wanderers
£9,260,000
75
League 1
Milton Keynes Dons
£9,490,000
76
League 1
Crewe Alexandra
£10,010,000
77
Championship
Luton Town
£10,250,000
78
League 1
Oxford United
£13,170,000
79
Championship
Preston North End
£14,740,000
80
League 1
Blackpool FC
£14,770,000
81
Championship
Coventry City
£14,820,000
82
Championship
Barnsley FC
£16,750,000
83
League 1
Charlton Athletic
£17,710,000
84
Championship
Nottingham Forest
£17,730,000
85
League 1
Peterborough United
£21,550,000
86
League 1
Ipswich Town
£22,170,000
87
Championship
Bristol City
£22,520,000
88
League 1
Wigan Athletic
£30,640,000
89
Championship
Blackburn Rovers
£41,460,000
90
Championship
Birmingham City
£61,690,000
91
Championship
Swansea City
£63,420,000
92
Championship
Brentford FC
£81,190,000
Abysmal from your lot at Stoke though Bob.
He might warm to charltons academy prospects...and wouldn't sell them off straight away, or at least wait for an actual decent offer
Charlton life gallows humour at its very best.
Once again, it could get better than TS, but it could get a lot worse. And how well someone runs a football club isn't just down to their bank balance.