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Sandgaard ownership discussion 2022-3 onwards (Meeting with CAST p138)

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  • Seen Ashley is also eyeing up buying Wasps and what was the Ricoh. Wonder if he'd then buy Coventry from SISU and own the lot..
  • ButtleJR said:
    Ashley is interested, floating around the club at the moment. 
    Sorry @ButtleJR , but what does ‘floating around the club’ mean? Has he been shown around?
  • J BLOCK said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    LMAO What ex player is worth enough to buy and run this club?
    Will be part of consortium. 
    Paul Elliott and his cohort of cohorty cohortians? 
    Roan Old Boys Association is my guess.🙄
  • WSS said:
    I know it's mental saying this but I think Mike Ashley would be excellent for us. We'd not agree with all of his decisions (renaming the stadium) but I think we'd end up in a much better place than we have been for a few years.

    Can't believe I typed that.
    No matter what  any new owner renamed The Valley as, it would still be the Valley to us & no doubt all/most of football
  • ButtleJR said:
    _MrDick said:
    ButtleJR said:
    Ashley is interested, floating around the club at the moment. 
    Sorry @ButtleJR , but what does ‘floating around the club’ mean? Has he been shown around?
    No, not that far along. Just don't be surprised to see him at a game soon. 
    Interesting
  • edited October 2022
    WSS said:
    I know it's mental saying this but I think Mike Ashley would be excellent for us. We'd not agree with all of his decisions (renaming the stadium) but I think we'd end up in a much better place than we have been for a few years.

    Can't believe I typed that.
    No matter what  any new owner renamed The Valley as, it would still be the Valley to us & no doubt all/most of football
    Valley Parade has been "named" for a long time but I have never heard anyone ever call it anything other than Valley Parade.  The same is/was true of Odsal.

    I live in Bradford before someone says they have never heard anyone call it anything :wink: 
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  • Chunes said:
    People kicked off over the badge being covered up for a day. Can't imagine the reaction if Ashley wanted to rename the stadium people fought tooth and nail to win back. 
    Interesting question - would you rather the club/current owner of the club owned the stadium but renamed it due to sponsorship, or would you rather it was called The Valley and RD owned it.

    (Ignoring the fact we'd all rather that RD didn't own it and it wasn't renamed.)
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    Chunes said:
    People kicked off over the badge being covered up for a day. Can't imagine the reaction if Ashley wanted to rename the stadium people fought tooth and nail to win back. 
    Number one priority is a competent owner, like Ashley, to get us out of L1 isn't it?  Right now, I don't care about the rest, as long as we're still playing at the Valley, which is what really matters and was fought for.

    If having a branded stadium boosts turnover, then as turnover boosts the player wage budget, bring it on, but if it costs us in turnover with people turning their back on the Club, then don't bother with it. To forego any income is to harm our chances of promotion as the squad won't be as good.

    Don't think RD has naming rights over the Valley btw. TS can have it sponsored.
  • Anyone buying us is obviously going to be doing so to try and get us in the premier league and then sell us on for profit and tbh I would back Ashley to do that with a higher chance of success than I would any other prospective owners of the sandgaard ilk who want to make a foray into owning a football club.
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    Jac_52 said:
    Anyone buying us is obviously going to be doing so to try and get us in the premier league and then sell us on for profit and tbh I would back Ashley to do that with a higher chance of success than I would any other prospective owners of the sandgaard ilk who want to make a foray into owning a football club.
    Ashley isn't an idiot though. He buys things dirt cheap and builds them up. The issue is we are not dirt cheap.

    Given what RD wants for the Valley and the training ground, plus what TS allegedly wants as well, plus what we're currently losing each year, plus what it would cost to get us into even being being a top half championship side i think even a conservative estimate would put that outlay at close to 75m, and even more to get us to the PL.

    RD - 40m (probably wants even more)
    TS - 5m (he'd want far more but i doubt he'd get it)
    2 years losses stuck in league one - at least 16m
    Players to build a squad to get us out of league one - 2-3m?
    Players to get us into the top half of the championship - 10-15m?
    Players to get us promoted to the PL - another 20m? (especially when competing with clubs who have parachute payments).

    Would Ashley be bothered with that kind of spending without any hope of a return unless we got to the PL which would be at least 4-5 years away. And of course there's no guarantee we'd get there.
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  • Jac_52 said:
    Anyone buying us is obviously going to be doing so to try and get us in the premier league and then sell us on for profit and tbh I would back Ashley to do that with a higher chance of success than I would any other prospective owners of the sandgaard ilk who want to make a foray into owning a football club.
    Ashley isn't an idiot though. He buys things dirt cheap and builds them up. The issue is we are not dirt cheap.

    Given what RD wants for the Valley and the training ground, plus what TS allegedly wants as well, plus what we're currently losing each year, plus what it would cost to get us into even being being a top half championship side i think even a conservative estimate would put that outlay at close to 75m, and even more to get us to the PL.

    RD - 40m (probably wants even more)
    TS - 5m (he'd want far more but i doubt he'd get it)
    2 years losses stuck in league one - at least 16m
    Players to build a squad to get us out of league one - 2-3m?
    Players to get us into the top half of the championship - 10-15m?
    Players to get us promoted to the PL - another 20m? (especially when competing with clubs who have parachute payments).

    Would Ashley be bothered with that kind of spending without any hope of a return unless we got to the PL which would be at least 4-5 years away. And of course there's no guarantee we'd get there.

    Only Mike Ashley knows if he thinks it's worth it for the return he'd get or even has the appetite to even try.

    I don't think he'll care about the stadium though personally. Why pay whatever ridiculous sum Roland wants for it when you can just pay for the existing lease the club has? Makes no financial sense for where we are at the moment.
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    Doesn't matter what they rename it. It will still be the valley to us...
  • redbuttle said:
    Who’s ready to support the team at the SportsDirect.com Valley?
    Doesn't matter what they rename it. It will still be The Valley to us...

  • Just had a look for Joachim Sandgaards Twitter, 
    seems he’s trying to masquerade as Rui Pinto now! 

    Trying to take the edge off the whistleblower?
  • sammy391 said:
    Just had a look for Joachim Sandgaards Twitter, 
    seems he’s trying to masquerade as Rui Pinto now! 

    Trying to take the edge off the whistleblower?
    Yep I’m sure that’s the case. He’s also blocked a lot of fans, including those he didn’t interact with. Others said Raelynn was following him.
  • Chunes said:
    People kicked off over the badge being covered up for a day. Can't imagine the reaction if Ashley wanted to rename the stadium people fought tooth and nail to win back. 
    But he wouldn’t be covering the badge up would he?
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