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Post-Match Thread: Barnsley vs Charlton Athletic | Saturday 24th September 2022 - 3pm

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  • Share as many stats and analytics as you like, all the while the likes of Kirk and Morgan are taking up spaces in the squad, we ain't going anywhere imo.

    Not scapegoating either, just seriously believe they aren't good enough, along with a couple more on their day
  • Talal said:
    BigDiddy said:
    Any suggestions on what manager/coach [mad enough to come to us] might get more out of our squad?

    Bowyer is an obvious starter for 10.
    A new manager would find the same problems. 
    I don't agree. Much as I can't stand the bloke, an old warhorse like Warnock would at least get them into fighting shape.

    Garner thinks he is Guardiola -playing Morgan ahead of better players is one example 

    He needs to go
  • 2 wins in 10 and 16th in League One just above the relegation zone.

    We kidded ourselves our team/ squad is an improvement on last year. It’s not.  Or Garner is not as good a manager as Jackson. 

    An owner insisting on a style of play but not investing in the players to deliver it. We’ve signed a bunch of cheap and lower league players and it shows. You get what you pay for (or don’t in our case).

    Feel sorry for the manager and the players as neither are good enough to overcome the set up to fail framework Sandgaard has put in place.

    The sooner he sells up to someone who has the nous to get football people in to run the club and/or can back up words with actions the better. Heading to the lower leagues on and off the pitch under his stewardship. He’s clueless and it shows and we’re only going in one direction under him.

    Grim.


    Yep, and sliding down the greasy pole to relegation fast.
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  • Blaming the manager when he was signed for a particular style that then the owner decides he must do with hoof-ball players, league two players and youth. 

    It's a joke and Garner deserves better than this crock of shit. 
    He should do the decent thing and quit!
  • The weird bit is we play some pretty football when in possession but sadly its totally ineffective.

    We look like a very soft touch and our competitors. will relish playing against us.

    Worrying times. 
    Pretty footie? ..it's all about scoring goals, clean sheets and yes indeed, winning (and a winning mentality) ..clearly nothing doing at the moment...relegation beckons in this form.
  • Shit support and some pure cnuts ‘following’ the club. Game meh. All the corners and never a chance.
  • edited September 2022
    It's not a quick fix says Ben Garner.

    Well we are 3 points off relegation, just got easily beaten, have an exceptionally fragile defence, have not won in what, 6 games?

    You had better fix this bloody quickly Ben because otherwise we will be looking at L2.

    Tippy tappy slow rubbish with no defensive shape.

    We are in trouble.

    Yet with our players, we should not be.
  • It's not a quick fix says Ben Garner.

    Well we are 3 points off relegation, just got easily beaten, have an exceptionally fragile defence, have not won in what, 6 games?

    You had better fix this bloody quickly Ben because otherwise we will be looking at L2.

    Tippy tappy slow rubbish with no defensive shape.

    We are in trouble.

    Yet with our players, we should not be.
    Garner is out of his depth. He must go
  • Blaming the manager when he was signed for a particular style that then the owner decides he must do with hoof-ball players, league two players and youth. 

    It's a joke and Garner deserves better than this crock of shit. 
    Spot on 
  • this time last year after 10 games, 6pts this season 11pts. but we are now on the slide as last season just 2 games later it looks.
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  • Not Garner's fault but does he have the guts to change things seeing he was employed to play a specific way. He needs to.
  • Blaming the manager is a bit rich

    Bowyer, Adkins, Jackson and now Garner all useless ? Really ?

    Maybe the fault might be connected to an ego maniac.owner who appoints unqualified family members to key positions and interferes in football matters. 

    Just a wild theory. 
    Spot on, if this was Roland the protests would have been in full swing by now. Sandgaard needs a football man in as CEO, and needs it now, and needs to back us or we are facing league 2
  • Blaming the manager is a bit rich

    Bowyer, Adkins, Jackson and now Garner all useless ? Really ?

    Maybe the fault might be connected to an ego maniac.owner who appoints unqualified family members to key positions and interferes in football matters. 

    Just a wild theory. 
    Very true - fans are now seeing this.

    Protests against TS are needed.

    Keeping Garner means we might end up in L2 next year.

    Both have to go, but Garner will be this season's scapegoat 
  • Would Sandgaard employ somebody who knew enough to expose his lack of knowledge? I doubt it. You do it his way or you don't.
  • Southbank said:
    If I were Sandgaard now I would be pretty desperate.
    1. His main business is struggling.
    2  His personal wealth is disappearing.
    3. He owns Charlton  a loss making business which has virtually no saleable assets and is therefore virtually worthless.
    4  To cut losses even more  at Charlton means further destroying the business model (promotion).

    He is stuck. The only option open to him other than simply  carrying on as he is would be to sack the manager and hope against hope there is somebody out there who can turn the sow's ear into  a football team.

    As I said, bloody desperate. No way out.

    How do you know about points 1 & 2?
  • edited September 2022
    This is where I normally try to come up with the positives. But I’m really struggling.

    Players that were ok-ish? Fraser, Egbo, Payne, Sessegnon. 
    CBT & Dobson maybe. 
    But the defending was shocking, and the shooting was worse than that. We won’t win many games unless both of those improve massively. 
    Biggest disappointment was O’Connell who had a shocker. And Morgan was very poor. Had some hope that this season might be interesting at least, but already it’s slipping away. 
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