Our defence annoyed me all afternoon Ness was constantly looking for the long ball and failing but if he had looked around 9 times out of 10 CBT was literally standing on his own but Ness continued trying to hit it long through the middle
7/10 times Asiimwe was also open on the other side.
Surprised by the amount of people who didn’t rate him yesterday. Thought he was good. And a country mile better than what’s come before him.
Posting without opinion.
Would you say he was a country mile better than Inniss and Famewo were after they had played half a dozen games for us?
Because for 6 months they were "clearly" the best center halves in the league, when they were both injured ;-)
To be fair, when we first put them in together and went 5 games without conceding it felt like we'd never concede again. It started to go downhill when the partnership broke and the Gunter/Pratley nexus got to work. Was never the same after that, I think it killed off Gunter too.
Surprised by the amount of people who didn’t rate him yesterday. Thought he was good. And a country mile better than what’s come before him.
Posting without opinion.
Would you say he was a country mile better than Inniss and Famewo were after they had played half a dozen games for us?
Because for 6 months they were "clearly" the best center halves in the league, when they were both injured ;-)
To be fair, when we first put them in together and went 5 games without conceding it felt like we'd never concede again. It started to go downhill when the partnership broke and the Gunter/Pratley nexus got to work. Was never the same after that, I think it killed off Gunter too.
That's exactly what I mean, remember Kilkenny was the new Cullen after his first game last season.
I would give it more than 60 minutes against a bang average league 1 team before I decide if he is a "country mile" better than anyone.
Surprised by the amount of people who didn’t rate him yesterday. Thought he was good. And a country mile better than what’s come before him.
Posting without opinion.
Would you say he was a country mile better than Inniss and Famewo were after they had played half a dozen games for us?
Because for 6 months they were "clearly" the best center halves in the league, when they were both injured ;-)
To be fair, when we first put them in together and went 5 games without conceding it felt like we'd never concede again. It started to go downhill when the partnership broke and the Gunter/Pratley nexus got to work. Was never the same after that, I think it killed off Gunter too.
That's exactly what I mean, remember Kilkenny was the new Cullen after his first game last season.
I would give it more than 60 minutes against a bang average league 1 team before I decide if he is a "country mile" better than anyone.
This view should count both in terms of positivity and negativity about players.
Surprised by the amount of people who didn’t rate him yesterday. Thought he was good. And a country mile better than what’s come before him.
Posting without opinion.
Would you say he was a country mile better than Inniss and Famewo were after they had played half a dozen games for us?
Because for 6 months they were "clearly" the best center halves in the league, when they were both injured ;-)
To be fair, when we first put them in together and went 5 games without conceding it felt like we'd never concede again. It started to go downhill when the partnership broke and the Gunter/Pratley nexus got to work. Was never the same after that, I think it killed off Gunter too.
That's exactly what I mean, remember Kilkenny was the new Cullen after his first game last season.
I would give it more than 60 minutes against a bang average league 1 team before I decide if he is a "country mile" better than anyone.
Agreed. A 1-0 win over a toothless Orient is a decent start to the season, but hardly a sign that he's a massive step up over previous defenders. Do the same at Peterborough next Saturday, and I'll be impressed.
Best game in a Charlton shirt so far. Great moment in the second half where he stood up their onrushing attacker and nicked the ball away with a perfectly timed tackle.
Best game in a Charlton shirt so far. Great moment in the second half where he stood up their onrushing attacker and nicked the ball away with a perfectly timed tackle.
Surprised by the amount of people who didn’t rate him yesterday. Thought he was good. And a country mile better than what’s come before him.
Posting without opinion.
Would you say he was a country mile better than Inniss and Famewo were after they had played half a dozen games for us?
Because for 6 months they were "clearly" the best center halves in the league, when they were both injured ;-)
To be fair, when we first put them in together and went 5 games without conceding it felt like we'd never concede again. It started to go downhill when the partnership broke and the Gunter/Pratley nexus got to work. Was never the same after that, I think it killed off Gunter too.
That's exactly what I mean, remember Kilkenny was the new Cullen after his first game last season.
I would give it more than 60 minutes against a bang average league 1 team before I decide if he is a "country mile" better than anyone.
Forgive me for feeling a bit smug but he’s 100% better than anything we had last season and he’s only getting better every game.
One Cambridge fan said “Rolls Royce” when we signed him. And there were signs of that from him today.
Surprised by the amount of people who didn’t rate him yesterday. Thought he was good. And a country mile better than what’s come before him.
Posting without opinion.
Would you say he was a country mile better than Inniss and Famewo were after they had played half a dozen games for us?
Because for 6 months they were "clearly" the best center halves in the league, when they were both injured ;-)
To be fair, when we first put them in together and went 5 games without conceding it felt like we'd never concede again. It started to go downhill when the partnership broke and the Gunter/Pratley nexus got to work. Was never the same after that, I think it killed off Gunter too.
That's exactly what I mean, remember Kilkenny was the new Cullen after his first game last season.
I would give it more than 60 minutes against a bang average league 1 team before I decide if he is a "country mile" better than anyone.
Forgive me for feeling a bit smug but he’s 100% better than anything we had last season and he’s only getting better every game.
One Cambridge fan said “Rolls Royce” when we signed him. And there were signs of that from him today.
I think he has certainly improved in the last couple of games, and maybe that’s a confidence thing.
However I also think he’s looked decent all season for us, the problem was he was making a couple of killer mistakes and that’s what people will focus on (and rightly so).
Surprised by the amount of people who didn’t rate him yesterday. Thought he was good. And a country mile better than what’s come before him.
Posting without opinion.
Would you say he was a country mile better than Inniss and Famewo were after they had played half a dozen games for us?
Because for 6 months they were "clearly" the best center halves in the league, when they were both injured ;-)
To be fair, when we first put them in together and went 5 games without conceding it felt like we'd never concede again. It started to go downhill when the partnership broke and the Gunter/Pratley nexus got to work. Was never the same after that, I think it killed off Gunter too.
That's exactly what I mean, remember Kilkenny was the new Cullen after his first game last season.
I would give it more than 60 minutes against a bang average league 1 team before I decide if he is a "country mile" better than anyone.
Forgive me for feeling a bit smug but he’s 100% better than anything we had last season and he’s only getting better every game.
One Cambridge fan said “Rolls Royce” when we signed him. And there were signs of that from him today.
Let's not get too carried away. Fairly sure people were saying quite similar things about Hector when he first appeared (and justifiably at the time) so let's just hold our horses on declaring our new CB messiah.
He's playing well right now yes but Hector had a purple patch, even Inniss had a brief period of looking like an absolute titan.
Surprised by the amount of people who didn’t rate him yesterday. Thought he was good. And a country mile better than what’s come before him.
Posting without opinion.
Would you say he was a country mile better than Inniss and Famewo were after they had played half a dozen games for us?
Because for 6 months they were "clearly" the best center halves in the league, when they were both injured ;-)
To be fair, when we first put them in together and went 5 games without conceding it felt like we'd never concede again. It started to go downhill when the partnership broke and the Gunter/Pratley nexus got to work. Was never the same after that, I think it killed off Gunter too.
That's exactly what I mean, remember Kilkenny was the new Cullen after his first game last season.
I would give it more than 60 minutes against a bang average league 1 team before I decide if he is a "country mile" better than anyone.
Forgive me for feeling a bit smug but he’s 100% better than anything we had last season and he’s only getting better every game.
One Cambridge fan said “Rolls Royce” when we signed him. And there were signs of that from him today.
It's not that you were right or wrong, you made a conclusive judgement based on one game playing one of the worst teams in the league.
How many people said Famewo was "clearly the best center half in the league" and six months later were prepared to drive him home themselves?
All I am saying is people write off players after half a dozen games, and they shouldn't, it also works both ways and should take more than a dozen games before they are proclaimed the savour.
You have rightly been critical of people doing the former.
Has settled in very nicely and is looking very reliable. Was my MOTM at Shrewsbury and can see him being a top performer all season. If his work rate and urgency rubs off on Hector a bit, we will have a top drawer CB pairing. That said, other than a few wayward passes, Hector got some important and well timed blocks in too on Saturday.
Surprised by the amount of people who didn’t rate him yesterday. Thought he was good. And a country mile better than what’s come before him.
Posting without opinion.
Would you say he was a country mile better than Inniss and Famewo were after they had played half a dozen games for us?
Because for 6 months they were "clearly" the best center halves in the league, when they were both injured ;-)
To be fair, when we first put them in together and went 5 games without conceding it felt like we'd never concede again. It started to go downhill when the partnership broke and the Gunter/Pratley nexus got to work. Was never the same after that, I think it killed off Gunter too.
That's exactly what I mean, remember Kilkenny was the new Cullen after his first game last season.
I would give it more than 60 minutes against a bang average league 1 team before I decide if he is a "country mile" better than anyone.
Forgive me for feeling a bit smug but he’s 100% better than anything we had last season and he’s only getting better every game.
One Cambridge fan said “Rolls Royce” when we signed him. And there were signs of that from him today.
It's not that you were right or wrong, you made a conclusive judgement based on one game playing one of the worst teams in the league.
How many people said Famewo was "clearly the best center half in the league" and six months later were prepared to drive him home themselves?
All I am saying is people write off players after half a dozen games, and they shouldn't, it also works both ways and should take more than a dozen games before they are proclaimed the savour.
You have rightly been critical of people doing the former.
Jones will need to spam a LOT of passes into the stands before I start comparing him to Famewo tbf
I felt very doubtful at the start but he's beginning to show what he's about. He looks a lot better than Lavelle & Innis. Good technically, strong, decent pace... Promising.
Had to go back a way to find the thread but probably worth saying that he's looking pretty impressive currently.
He's got a bit of everything, he can mix it up but isn't just a bruiser, he can play a bit but will put his foot through the ball if needed and decent in the air besides - plus he shows a lot more discipline than some predecessors.
Might potentially be some questions about his ceiling but for where we are right now I'm liking the cut of his jib.
Yeah I can't make my mind up about him, I'd say he's better than Lavelle, Innis and probably O'Connell as well?
He's not particularly great at anything though just seems solid, isn't as good as Innis in the air and isn't as good as O'Connell on the ball. Certainly the best defender we have though imo
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I would give it more than 60 minutes against a bang average league 1 team before I decide if he is a "country mile" better than anyone.
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One Cambridge fan said “Rolls Royce” when we signed him. And there were signs of that from him today.
However I also think he’s looked decent all season for us, the problem was he was making a couple of killer mistakes and that’s what people will focus on (and rightly so).
Being super critical he could have done better with that header early on, but that’s not really his role in the team.
He's playing well right now yes but Hector had a purple patch, even Inniss had a brief period of looking like an absolute titan.
How many people said Famewo was "clearly the best center half in the league" and six months later were prepared to drive him home themselves?
All I am saying is people write off players after half a dozen games, and they shouldn't, it also works both ways and should take more than a dozen games before they are proclaimed the savour.
You have rightly been critical of people doing the former.
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He's got a bit of everything, he can mix it up but isn't just a bruiser, he can play a bit but will put his foot through the ball if needed and decent in the air besides - plus he shows a lot more discipline than some predecessors.
Might potentially be some questions about his ceiling but for where we are right now I'm liking the cut of his jib.
He's not particularly great at anything though just seems solid, isn't as good as Innis in the air and isn't as good as O'Connell on the ball. Certainly the best defender we have though imo