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Holden sacked?! (Ed. Yes - Confirmed)

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  • KingKinsella
    KingKinsella Posts: 1,312
    Did he kiss someone...? CM?
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    IdleHans said:
    I'd like to express my opinion that Charlie Methven is a useless slimy arsehole full of just as much shit as the serial uselessnesses that preceded him (just in case he reads this)
    And I wonder what his salary is when he's actually not required to be here. Did his job of setting up the takeover.
  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,188
    BigDiddy said:

    Do we have to keep going over the same old crap … CM had no say in this he not making them decisions .. this come from high down to Andy Scott and Rodwell … New manager will be decided by Andy Scott and Peter Storrie who is still at the club till Friday 


    If you believe that, good luck.

    CM is the chief architect of this takeover and what is following.

    No manager, no time left in the window, no squad, no hope.

    Pearce and Hayes will do their best.

    Are you confident in the new ownership and SMT?
  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,188
    Ferryman said:
    IdleHans said:
    I'd like to express my opinion that Charlie Methven is a useless slimy arsehole full of just as much shit as the serial uselessnesses that preceded him (just in case he reads this)
    And I wonder what his salary is when he's actually not required to be here. Did his job of setting up the takeover.
    Rest assured, CM and the SMT will be taking out a few million a year  when you add it all up.

    They will suck whatever life is left in our club.

  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    edited August 2023
    Yes the squad has issues to be addressed but no way with the players available should we have lost five on the spin. I liked Dean as a person but I just don’t think he cuts it as a manager. Saturday was a clusterfuck from the time the team was selected, gawd knows what he was thinking of. I think the right decision has been made. I just hope there is a plan in place to get us out of this mess.
    This sums it up for me. All the players that have been brought in recently have been established professionals. Yet we get the kind of defensive mistakes that another team might make once or twice a season being made once or twice a match.  Every team we play at this level has the ability to (mostly) pass the ball to each other - we don't. I'm not sure that the alliterative Taylor geezer has made one successful pass in his poncy pink boots.  How does that happen? Every other team makes a good percentage of 50/50 headers, tackles, we don't.  If we go a goal down we know we have lost the match. Every time we go a goal up we know it's almost certain we will drop points.

    How do you cure this malaise?  Well I don't know but having a manager that stands around in the laughably named technical area with his hands in his pockets doesn't cut the mustard.  We do actually need someone that looks like he's motivated and won't stand for any more of this crap. 

    Edited to add:  And they can cut out the waste of sending the team out to Spain pre-season.  They can stay in their own houses and go to work at the training ground.  All this team-building stuff is bollocks.
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    BigDiddy said:
    BigDiddy said:

    Do we have to keep going over the same old crap … CM had no say in this he not making them decisions .. this come from high down to Andy Scott and Rodwell … New manager will be decided by Andy Scott and Peter Storrie who is still at the club till Friday 


    If you believe that, good luck.

    CM is the chief architect of this takeover and what is following.

    No manager, no time left in the window, no squad, no hope.

    Pearce and Hayes will do their best.

    Are you confident in the new ownership and SMT?
    So Methven has the same control Sandgaard had and is running the show with everyone else involved his puppets. It's  all on him alone is what you're saying.
  • Costa
    Costa Posts: 11
    Really disappointed that Dean Holden and company have been sacked. Looks like we are back at square one with owners etc.
    Will still use my season ticket but not sure it will do any good and worry about encouraging owners/management that I  and others can be taken for granted. Fortunate to meet Dean Holden and my impression was that he was a massive improvement on the last 3 managers we have had. I sincerely hope he gets another job if he wants one and does well.

  • Kind of pleased the decision was made so early as never felt Holden would turn it around. Started to feel very much like when he was leaving rather than if he was leaving. I like Dean Holden as person but it felt like Adkins 2.0 spell all over again. 


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  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    If Hayes is on set plays, how come the Club and him haven't parted ways? How come he's dodged the bullet?
  • We have to hope at some stage there is a plan. Seems an utter farce at present and it seems unlikely the new manager will be much good.

    Sad times for Charlton.


  • KingKinsella
    KingKinsella Posts: 1,312
    Well we aren't getting any more players in now.
    Why? 

    Most managers do t get a say in the players anyway. 

    I was out with a womble last week
    amd he told me that signing players has been taken away from Jackson. He tells their DoF what position he wants, what type of player and it's done for him. He can concentrate on coaching. It's the modern way with most clubs following this approach
    I never hear of DoF getting the sack? or is just me
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    BigDiddy said:

    Do we have to keep going over the same old crap … CM had no say in this he not making them decisions .. this come from high down to Andy Scott and Rodwell … New manager will be decided by Andy Scott and Peter Storrie who is still at the club till Friday 


    God you are weird.
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,015
    edited August 2023
    Is Nobby Vinegar available?
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,701
    We have to hope at some stage there is a plan. Seems an utter farce at present and it seems unlikely the new manager will be much good.

    Sad times for Charlton.


    Do you know who it is then??
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    We have to hope at some stage there is a plan. Seems an utter farce at present and it seems unlikely the new manager will be much good.

    Sad times for Charlton.


    Do you know who it is then??
    Probably just a prediction based on all our recent appointments.
  • ValleyBen
    ValleyBen Posts: 572
    If there is an actual recruitment process for hiring a new manager rather then one of their mates, then with the transfer window about to end it has to be a manager who has a plan of how to use this squad as is.

    The season really is over if the new manager comes in and decides some of our stronger players don't fit their system or style of play.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Can it really be true the sackings were by text messages?
    Stay classy us.
    Burger boy poison has spread and spread through our club.
  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,601
    Kind of pleased the decision was made so early as never felt Holden would turn it around. Started to feel very much like when he was leaving rather than if he was leaving. I like Dean Holden as person but it felt like Adkins 2.0 spell all over again. 


    Agree 5 games is very early to sack him. However, it’s a bold decision and shows that the owners are not happy with failure. Yes, Holden has a limited squad, but are they really as bad as these results. I think most of us think not…….
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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,316
    seth plum said:
    Can it really be true the sackings were by text messages?
    Stay classy us.
    Burger boy poison has spread and spread through our club.
    This is just how the mega-wealthy operate, with absolute heartlessness, you know this 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,316
    Anyway I sort of agree with the sacking lol (even if they could have really said it to his face ffs). EFL sack race officially ours baby, whooo
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    Swisdom said:
    It WONT be Lee Johnson
    Thank you Obi-Wan 😉
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Well yeah, true.
  • Darren Moore has a 49% win rate across his three managerial jobs. He is no ‘rogue’. 
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,792
    We've been unlucky with some poor refereeing but the defending has been bizarre and the team selection on Saturday was from Alice in Wonderland.  If we get in Darren Moore or someone similar I'll give the owners the benefit of the doubt this once.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    It would be cruel for them, but I would try to get an in work manager if possible. Principally the bloke at Cambridge.
  • Wellred
    Wellred Posts: 1,118
    It was going to happen sooner or later better to get it done now before he done to much damage 
    Here we go again on the Charlton merry go round 
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,651
    edited August 2023
    We've been unlucky with some poor refereeing but the defending has been bizarre and the team selection on Saturday was from Alice in Wonderland.  If we get in Darren Moore or someone similar I'll give the owners the benefit of the doubt this once.
    Yep, getting shot of Dean only makes sense if you are bringing someone better in, if we go for a completely inexperienced coach / manager,  then start to worry, and the chickens coming home to roost, will finally catch up with us.

    I wouldn’t be unhappy with Darren Moore, but would he want to come?
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,986
    @Swisdom how confident are you it won’t be Johnson?