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Residents Parking Expansion for SE7 - UPDATE PAGE 3
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swords_alive said:This is good if only because it challenges the few remaining dinosaurs, those who take for granted their car and think they have some god given right to use it, to consider other, better options. Once the issues are addressed and representations made, we should have less congested and polluting streets in this part of Greenwich at least.
What do they do? Oh it doesn't matter because they're dinosaurs who think they have a God given right to leave their homes34 -
Not being able to park anywhere within a sensible walking distance would severely impact my decision making when it comes to actually bothering to go3
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Elthamaddick said:Not being able to park anywhere within a sensible walking distance would severely impact my decision making when it comes to actually bothering to go1
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Elthamaddick said:Not being able to park anywhere within a sensible walking distance would severely impact my decision making when it comes to actually bothering to go0
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Briston_Addick said:AFKABartram said:Quite simply this will make matchday parking borderline impossible. Like it or not we have a support that is largely not local and many in advanced years who rely solely on driving. This is catastrophic for the club imo and a huge great noise needs to be made about this.
I can’t believe the Club have either not been in consultation about it or not made any noise
At this rate unless the club relocates to Norfolk I can't see myself going in future seasons because trains/buses are too expensive (especially when compared to the less than half a tank of fuel it takes me to drive to The Valley and back) and I'll have nowhere to park within a reasonable walking distance of the ground.
In some ways you're in a better position than fans from Kent who have to rely on Southeastern...0 -
swords_alive said:This is good if only because it challenges the few remaining dinosaurs, those who take for granted their car and think they have some god given right to use it, to consider other, better options. Once the issues are addressed and representations made, we should have less congested and polluting streets in this part of Greenwich at least.
From where I used to live (Swanley) I could be home by 6pm on a Saturday. By bus is was closer to 7.30pm (161 to Eltham & then 233). Only good thing about getting the bus is bus lanes.
The invention of the motor car was evolutionary and freed up millions of people to travel to places they could only dream of before. Just because the petrol engine kills the planet, and diesel engines kills people, does not mean you have to eradicate cars and car travel. In 20 years time the electric car will be mainstream and hopefully car pollution will be a thing of the past (until some smart cookie will be telling us electric batteries are harmful).2 -
sam3110 said:swords_alive said:This is good if only because it challenges the few remaining dinosaurs, those who take for granted their car and think they have some god given right to use it, to consider other, better options. Once the issues are addressed and representations made, we should have less congested and polluting streets in this part of Greenwich at least.
What do they do? Oh it doesn't matter because they're dinosaurs who think they have a God given right to leave their homes
With knobs on.
My current journey time to football ranges from 3½ - 4½ hours, depending on traffic, and I have to leave home by 10am to try and get a parking spot.
If I want to use public transport (train or coach) to get to football I still have to drive around 30 miles to pick that up in the first place. How does that fit into the incredibly small-minded and selfish world of those who moan about "dinosaurs taking their car for granted"?
In these parts you get around by car, tractor or horse (and you don't see too many horses on the roads these days) or you don't get out at all.4 -
sam3110 said:swords_alive said:This is good if only because it challenges the few remaining dinosaurs, those who take for granted their car and think they have some god given right to use it, to consider other, better options. Once the issues are addressed and representations made, we should have less congested and polluting streets in this part of Greenwich at least.
What do they do? Oh it doesn't matter because they're dinosaurs who think they have a God given right to leave their homes0 -
Briston_Addick said:sam3110 said:swords_alive said:This is good if only because it challenges the few remaining dinosaurs, those who take for granted their car and think they have some god given right to use it, to consider other, better options. Once the issues are addressed and representations made, we should have less congested and polluting streets in this part of Greenwich at least.
What do they do? Oh it doesn't matter because they're dinosaurs who think they have a God given right to leave their homes
With knobs on.
My current journey time to football ranges from 3½ - 4½ hours, depending on traffic, and I have to leave home by 10am to try and get a parking spot.
If I want to use public transport (train or coach) to get to football I still have to drive around 30 miles to pick that up in the first place. How does that fit into the incredibly small-minded and selfish world of those who moan about "dinosaurs taking their car for granted"?
In these parts you get around by car, tractor or horse (and you don't see too many horses on the roads these days) or you don't get out at all.0 -
InspectorSands said:Briston_Addick said:AFKABartram said:Quite simply this will make matchday parking borderline impossible. Like it or not we have a support that is largely not local and many in advanced years who rely solely on driving. This is catastrophic for the club imo and a huge great noise needs to be made about this.
I can’t believe the Club have either not been in consultation about it or not made any noise
At this rate unless the club relocates to Norfolk I can't see myself going in future seasons because trains/buses are too expensive (especially when compared to the less than half a tank of fuel it takes me to drive to The Valley and back) and I'll have nowhere to park within a reasonable walking distance of the ground.
In some ways you're in a better position than fans from Kent who have to rely on Southeastern...12 - Sponsored links:
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swords_alive said:This is good if only because it challenges the few remaining dinosaurs, those who take for granted their car and think they have some god given right to use it, to consider other, better options. Once the issues are addressed and representations made, we should have less congested and polluting streets in this part of Greenwich at least.15
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swords_alive said:This is good if only because it challenges the few remaining dinosaurs, those who take for granted their car and think they have some god given right to use it, to consider other, better options. Once the issues are addressed and representations made, we should have less congested and polluting streets in this part of Greenwich at least.5
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If the council wish to make this proposal then the club and the trust should be on their case asking why they need to be this awkward.However if this does go through then people who drive to the games need to start planning ahead on the nearest parking with bus routes from the ground to take the less able back to their cars.
Public transport is much better in the local area compared to 20/30 years ago. Jubilee and Elizabeth Lines. DLR.If you want to go The Valley you can find a way around this scheme. Just need to think of another way from your normal routine7 -
Park up somewere else in Greater London and clog up their roads instead.
You know it makes sense.6 -
There comes a time when the arse-ache involved in getting to the ground far outweighs any possible pleasure/duty of actually being there.3
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sam3110 said:swords_alive said:This is good if only because it challenges the few remaining dinosaurs, those who take for granted their car and think they have some god given right to use it, to consider other, better options. Once the issues are addressed and representations made, we should have less congested and polluting streets in this part of Greenwich at least.
What do they do? Oh it doesn't matter because they're dinosaurs who think they have a God given right to leave their homes0 -
Move to Charlton or within walking distance to the ground and all these issues are solved 🤓0
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or get one of the players to pick you up on the way in1
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This will have a massive impact on the club . I won't drive anymore now and i can't trust the trains so sadly me and my sons will become armchair supporters . I can't believe the club isn't kicking up a shit storm about this.9
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swords_alive said:This is good if only because it challenges the few remaining dinosaurs, those who take for granted their car and think they have some god given right to use it, to consider other, better options. Once the issues are addressed and representations made, we should have less congested and polluting streets in this part of Greenwich at least.9
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I travelled on the loop line from Crayford to the Valley until SouthEastern stopped it. I now drive and park by The Barrier. Is the Eastmoor Street area in the Zone? If it is they have need to bring back the Loop trains to allow fans access to the ground.0
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Briston_Addick said:InspectorSands said:Briston_Addick said:AFKABartram said:Quite simply this will make matchday parking borderline impossible. Like it or not we have a support that is largely not local and many in advanced years who rely solely on driving. This is catastrophic for the club imo and a huge great noise needs to be made about this.
I can’t believe the Club have either not been in consultation about it or not made any noise
At this rate unless the club relocates to Norfolk I can't see myself going in future seasons because trains/buses are too expensive (especially when compared to the less than half a tank of fuel it takes me to drive to The Valley and back) and I'll have nowhere to park within a reasonable walking distance of the ground.
In some ways you're in a better position than fans from Kent who have to rely on Southeastern...2 -
BartramBlitz said:I travelled on the loop line from Crayford to the Valley until SouthEastern stopped it. I now drive and park by The Barrier. Is the Eastmoor Street area in the Zone? If it is they have need to bring back the Loop trains to allow fans access to the ground.0
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InspectorSands said:There comes a time when the arse-ache involved in getting to the ground far outweighs any possible pleasure/duty of actually being there.7
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cafcdave123 said:BartramBlitz said:I travelled on the loop line from Crayford to the Valley until SouthEastern stopped it. I now drive and park by The Barrier. Is the Eastmoor Street area in the Zone? If it is they have need to bring back the Loop trains to allow fans access to the ground.3
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cafcdave123 said:Elthamaddick said:Not being able to park anywhere within a sensible walking distance would severely impact my decision making when it comes to actually bothering to go
I just don't think I'd bother on the bus2 -
If they want people to stop using cars they have to provide the alternatives. Cutting people from Sidcup, Bexley, Crayford (obviously the higher class areas of Bexley!) off from the Loop line made no sense when they opened the Elizabeth line. Greenwich council, the government (who run South Eastern) need to do a bit of joined up thinking. This willbe bad news for CAFC building back our crowds.4
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Elthamaddick said:cafcdave123 said:Elthamaddick said:Not being able to park anywhere within a sensible walking distance would severely impact my decision making when it comes to actually bothering to go
I just don't think I'd bother on the bus
not all trains are on the loop though so getting home for 5:30 might be a bit of an ask1 -
I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's almost like the local council don't actually want a football club in the area, despite the amount of community work and everything else CAFC does for Charlton, Greenwich and beyond20
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Elthamaddick said:cafcdave123 said:Elthamaddick said:Not being able to park anywhere within a sensible walking distance would severely impact my decision making when it comes to actually bothering to go
I just don't think I'd bother on the bus
Busses an option yes but no chance of getting home by 5.30.
Longer more expensive inconvenient journeys I guess are going to have to be a change of mindset in future though that may outweigh actually bothering to go to games.1