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POST-MATCH THREAD: Derby v Charlton Athletic | Tues 27th Feb 2024

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  • Major
    Major Posts: 1,026
    ozaddick said:
    That post match video of the boys and NJ got me right in the feels!! Not ashamed to say I had dust in my eyes watching that.

    What a transformation at our club. WOW. 
    No offence intended but not sure what you colonial chaps mean by 'Feels'. Is it the same as 'Nadgers'?
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,596
    Nice work from @Braziliance
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,015
    grumpyaddick said:
    Nice work from @Braziliance
    Good to see the interviews with the Derby fans before the game. Some surprisingly unconfident of winning, though none predicted a defeat.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Major said:
    msomerton said:
    soapboxsam said:
    msomerton said:
    swords_alive said:
    Reluctantly, @msomerton, just wanted to check your score for Coventry in the payer marks thread wasn't a typo of some sort, as it's notably and significantly lower than everyone else's.. just curious.. i only followed the game via the match thread on here..

    Jscore: 6
    ISTED: 7
    R.E.G.: 5
    THOMAS: 7
    GILLESPHEY: 7
    T.WATSON: 6
    COVENTRY: 5
    CAMARÁ: 4
    ANDERSON: 7
    SMALL: 7.5
    LADAPO: 4
    KANU: 7
    ANEKE: 7
    MAY: 6 
    That is correct. Over all it was a shocking guy poor game of football from both teams and in the first half we were the worse team by a mile.
    Second half we stepped up our endeavour and got the win of which I am very glad. 
    But the skill levels were low on the whole.

    Agree the 1st half was poor BUT:
    You don't think the pass from Coventry for Kanu to run on to when he was brought down was skillful ?
    You don't think that Coventry closing down and getting his foot in is anything to do will skill ?
    You don't think that giving your all against the team 2nd in the table which Conor Coventry did is worthy of more than 5.
    No skill involved in Aneke receiving the ball and giving a good weighted pass to Kanu who hit a good shot which was saved and Anderson showed amazing skill to keep that shot under the bar ?
    Lots of skill shown on a terrible pitch in the 2nd half but just head tennis in the 1st.

    Reg had a good game as well but I appreciate you mark as you see and you saw a different game to me as you thought the two lads were 5's.

    As I have said on many occasions a win will always mean players gain higher marks as fans are in a better mood as opposed to the normal this season; plus winning at Derby for the first time in 25 years.

    We all voted the two Ipswich lads as our bottom two.

    I honestly thought you fell asleep at HT so apologies for that assumption.
    No I watched all the way through. And there were the odd decent moment , but far more poor passes tackles and scuffed clearances. Even Isted made an half hearted double fisted punch out , thar came back two passes later luckily they were worse in the 2nd half. If AMB had made that punch he would be lambasted  in the player marks for it. 

    I have no idea why anyone attaches any significance to the player's marks thingy. Is it important or something?
    One of the best resources on CL imho, and I try to mark honestly, without marking up my favourite players. Overall the marks are a pretty fair reflection of a player’s form. What’s not to like? 👍
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Good stuff @Braziliance, really enjoyed the vid. Nicely put together, and the effects worked well. Hope you voice recovers. 😂
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    JamesSeed said:
    Good stuff @Braziliance, really enjoyed the vid. Nicely put together, and the effects worked well. Hope you voice recovers. 😂
    Absolutely this, well done @Braziliance, great work.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    There was something that I thought was quite telling about the 'new Charlton' we're seeing under Nathan Jones.

    It was tucked away in the post match interview that Louis put on Charlton Live. It wasn't the Terry Smith one but somebody else asking Nathan Jones questions.

    The interviewer asked about the disappointment of conceding just before half time after having kept Derby at 'arms length'.

    Jones reply was rather indignant, and it went along the lines that his teams don't aim to keep anybody at 'arms length', but to get in to the opposition all the time and give them things to worry about.

    I think it is a good stance, the right stance, and in a broader sense resonates with my own often repeated observation that every game is a 'must win'.

  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Just checked and the interview I mean was on the latest CharltonLive (thanks Louis and co) from 31 minutes in, the interviewer was called Harry (sorry i didn't catch his second name) from Radio London.
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,784
    "We don't wanna hold em at arms length, we wanna knock em out".
  • Sven_the_Viking
    Sven_the_Viking Posts: 200
    I don't want to hold Derby at arms length. I want to knock them clean out.
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  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,794
    jams said:
    How the hell are they 2nd in the league! 
    I would theorise it’s related to the juxtaposition of their points total with that of the other teams in the division. 
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,784
    I'm not going to even suggest we won't lose another game this season, but any team that does beat us is damn well gonna have to work for it. No longer are we a soft touch that rolls over in submission.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,794
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    soapboxsam said:
    Major said:
    msomerton said:
    soapboxsam said:
    msomerton said:
    swords_alive said:
    Reluctantly, @msomerton, just wanted to check your score for Coventry in the payer marks thread wasn't a typo of some sort, as it's notably and significantly lower than everyone else's.. just curious.. i only followed the game via the match thread on here..

    Jscore: 6
    ISTED: 7
    R.E.G.: 5
    THOMAS: 7
    GILLESPHEY: 7
    T.WATSON: 6
    COVENTRY: 5
    CAMARÁ: 4
    ANDERSON: 7
    SMALL: 7.5
    LADAPO: 4
    KANU: 7
    ANEKE: 7
    MAY: 6 
    That is correct. Over all it was a shocking guy poor game of football from both teams and in the first half we were the worse team by a mile.
    Second half we stepped up our endeavour and got the win of which I am very glad. 
    But the skill levels were low on the whole.

    Agree the 1st half was poor BUT:
    You don't think the pass from Coventry for Kanu to run on to when he was brought down was skillful ?
    You don't think that Coventry closing down and getting his foot in is anything to do will skill ?
    You don't think that giving your all against the team 2nd in the table which Conor Coventry did is worthy of more than 5.
    No skill involved in Aneke receiving the ball and giving a good weighted pass to Kanu who hit a good shot which was saved and Anderson showed amazing skill to keep that shot under the bar ?
    Lots of skill shown on a terrible pitch in the 2nd half but just head tennis in the 1st.

    Reg had a good game as well but I appreciate you mark as you see and you saw a different game to me as you thought the two lads were 5's.

    As I have said on many occasions a win will always mean players gain higher marks as fans are in a better mood as opposed to the normal this season; plus winning at Derby for the first time in 25 years.

    We all voted the two Ipswich lads as our bottom two.

    I honestly thought you fell asleep at HT so apologies for that assumption.
    No I watched all the way through. And there were the odd decent moment , but far more poor passes tackles and scuffed clearances. Even Isted made an half hearted double fisted punch out , thar came back two passes later luckily they were worse in the 2nd half. If AMB had made that punch he would be lambasted  in the player marks for it. 

    I have no idea why anyone attaches any significance to the player's marks thingy. Is it important or something?

    Only to Geeks like me who would give players marks in a Sunday league as an 8 year old in my local park !

    TBF assessing players came in handy when I managed and coached young teenage teams.
    You get a few that seem harsh on a player but enough people do them to ensure the marks are pretty representative IMO. I think it would be a good idea if we could put some money into a pot to get a trophy which could be presented to the winning player by AFKA or LL.
    I’ll raid AAjr’s piggy bank. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    edited March 2024
    I think for the most telling points we should look at what the Derby fans have said. They have said we were stronger and more athletic and indeed dirtier than them. These in themselves are three areas you would not expect teams to say about us for most of this season. It does demonstrate the sea change Jones has made. Derby from what I have seen are a pragmatic and dour rather than a talented side. We saw that at the Valley. It is great we can out work and yes, be accused of being dirtier as that is their template.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,569
    seth plum said:
    Just checked and the interview I mean was on the latest CharltonLive (thanks Louis and co) from 31 minutes in, the interviewer was called Harry (sorry i didn't catch his second name) from Radio London.
    I thought the interviewer was a young lad doing Media Studies at Derby Uni? Someone posted here the other day.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    Apart from giving a stupid penalty away, I loved the antics of the keeper jumping up and down on the spot. May simply had to wait for his feet to go off the ground and put the ball either side of him.  :D
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,015
    LargeAddick said:
    seth plum said:
    Just checked and the interview I mean was on the latest CharltonLive (thanks Louis and co) from 31 minutes in, the interviewer was called Harry (sorry i didn't catch his second name) from Radio London.
    I thought the interviewer was a young lad doing Media Studies at Derby Uni? Someone posted here the other day.
    Different interview? The Radio London one was the one where NJ dropped the F bomb. Im guessing this is the cleaned up version.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    grumpyaddick said:
    Nice work from @Braziliance
    JamesSeed said:
    Good stuff @Braziliance, really enjoyed the vid. Nicely put together, and the effects worked well. Hope you voice recovers. 😂
    Redmidland said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Good stuff @Braziliance, really enjoyed the vid. Nicely put together, and the effects worked well. Hope you voice recovers. 😂
    Absolutely this, well done @Braziliance, great work.
    Gents thank you so much 😄 I certainly preferred sitting in the middle as opposed to the back as I was able to capture more of our fans in the moment. 
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,964
    PWR i’ve been down with the flu all week, how did we do?
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,156
    Algarveaddick said:
    What a turn around, we win and other clubs do us a favour.

    If we get seven points from the next three matches I will have a little hope that we will stay up. 
    Two wins in the next two then...
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,770
    One year on and we’re heading into a weekend game where a win could take us up to 5th with a game in hand on 4th.
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  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,807
    Hardly any improvement.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,658
    I don't remember us ever being in the league one relegation places so I guess that was the lowest league position in the club's history.

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