NJ: "I can't remember [being carved open as much as that]. With the greatest of respect, I've played against Man City and they didn't have a shot on target. To have 16, 17 shots against you against, with the greatest of respect, Leyton Orient, it's baffling."#cafc
NJ: "But we made nine changes. A lot of players who haven't played. Potts, REG. People who haven't played. That showed tonight because we were so far off it."#cafc
NJ: "Every time we turned the ball over they looked like they could score. Whether that was desire, structure, athleticism, we were so far off tonight. We are statistically the best side in the league, defensively, but you never would have thought that tonight." #cafc
NJ: "I've learned a lot tonight. The squad I've inherited, players I've inherited that, you know, you can't change everything overnight. That's proved today. I've learned a lot tonight."#cafc
I’m really not one to want constant managerial change - but ask yourself this; if Jones was sacked this week would anyone look back in a year and think ‘I really miss that brand of football’?
As a fan of 66 years standing, I’ve heard plenty of bullshit from Charlton managers and chairmen. However, Nathan Jones trumps any of his predecessors. Personally, I want to see him gone as soon as possible. In the short term, give the reins to Jason Pearce.
NJ: "I can't remember [being carved open as much as that]. With the greatest of respect, I've played against Man City and they didn't have a shot on target. To have 16, 17 shots against you against, with the greatest of respect, Leyton Orient, it's baffling."#cafc
NJ: "But we made nine changes. A lot of players who haven't played. Potts, REG. People who haven't played. That showed tonight because we were so far off it."#cafc
NJ: "Every time we turned the ball over they looked like they could score. Whether that was desire, structure, athleticism, we were so far off tonight. We are statistically the best side in the league, defensively, but you never would have thought that tonight." #cafc
NJ: "I've learned a lot tonight. The squad I've inherited, players I've inherited that, you know, you can't change everything overnight. That's proved today. I've learned a lot tonight."#cafc
I’m really not one to want constant managerial change - but ask yourself this; if Jones was sacked this week would anyone look back in a year and think ‘I really miss that brand of football’?
Depends... there is a reluctance on here to admit that replacing a Manager could end up seeing us go backwards even more
Replacing the Manager wont magically result in us going in the right direction, playing a better brand of Football.
We're at the point where the SMT need to be looking at doing a deal with Jones, so he can walk away - But equally we cant pretend that in 12-months time, we wont be looking back in a much worse off position than where we are now.
Tonight is an all time low for me, how much more can we take before the protests start, must be very near.
But what good would protests be? We spent years protesting to get Roland out, in very inventive and differrent ways, yet he's still 'here'. What good would protests do now?
Don't know Arsentat's, wasn't advocating them just predicting them, as we can all see we are on a very slippery slope with no end in sight...guess we are just accepting the inevitable without some sort of fight...🤷♂️
Yeah it's not like me but I guess I'm all knackered out with the Belgium protests that I just dont see what difference they would do now. I hope I'm wrong. I still have the WAR banner in my loft but it's beeen usd as a tarp for the chooks......
Just reflecting on my years of supporting Charlton. My first game 1977 smashing Spurs @ the Valley! Followed by many brilliant years home and away! Charlton is our club please keep the faith!
NJ: "I can't remember [being carved open as much as that]. With the greatest of respect, I've played against Man City and they didn't have a shot on target. To have 16, 17 shots against you against, with the greatest of respect, Leyton Orient, it's baffling."#cafc
NJ: "But we made nine changes. A lot of players who haven't played. Potts, REG. People who haven't played. That showed tonight because we were so far off it."#cafc
NJ: "Every time we turned the ball over they looked like they could score. Whether that was desire, structure, athleticism, we were so far off tonight. We are statistically the best side in the league, defensively, but you never would have thought that tonight." #cafc
NJ: "I've learned a lot tonight. The squad I've inherited, players I've inherited that, you know, you can't change everything overnight. That's proved today. I've learned a lot tonight."#cafc
Reality check… we are no longer the sleeping giant who should be in a higher league. Those days are gone. Like many teams… that is well in the past. We are a crap mid table L1 team who think they are better than they are.
We are where we deserve to be. We need to adjust our expectations are accept we are just a mid table ish L1 team…… We are not superior to Crawley or Orient etc. The old days of Prem, Div 1 are gone.
Not wishing to disturb your party but the whole reason to support any football club is to see them progress, from the youngsters through to the first team. If Derby, Oxford. Portsmouth and Ipswich, similar sized clubs had followed your mantra then they would be languishing where we are, they didn't and that's because the made progressive choices, there is enough in this squad to do a lot better and with a few correct additions and departures, give it a go, it's down to the manager that we are not doing that.
So we agree NJ is shite and needs to go?
Whether he's shite or not is probably a mute point, it's the style of play he's adopting and if he doesn't want to change that style of play then yes he should go.
So did Dixon serlt the place on fire. Could not be there have caught a bloody cold. Fell asleep so could not follow the commentry.
Only saw second half and the 15 he played before being subbed and the first half highlights (ahem) dis not convince me that he's the messiah. He's young, inexperienced, lightweight and should go on loan in January to a non-league club to build his understanding of the men's game.
Would be interesting to know what Stoke fans think of Jones. Did he do the same thing there and stick rigidly to one dimensional hoofball? He’s very much looking like a busted flush, which is massively disappointing.
If only we had a way of getting the view of someone connected to Stoke City FC on here ...
They had Pulis Ball for a decade so they considered Jones' direct style of play to be a breath of fresh air.
NJ: "I can't remember [being carved open as much as that]. With the greatest of respect, I've played against Man City and they didn't have a shot on target. To have 16, 17 shots against you against, with the greatest of respect, Leyton Orient, it's baffling."#cafc
NJ: "But we made nine changes. A lot of players who haven't played. Potts, REG. People who haven't played. That showed tonight because we were so far off it."#cafc
NJ: "Every time we turned the ball over they looked like they could score. Whether that was desire, structure, athleticism, we were so far off tonight. We are statistically the best side in the league, defensively, but you never would have thought that tonight." #cafc
NJ: "I've learned a lot tonight. The squad I've inherited, players I've inherited that, you know, you can't change everything overnight. That's proved today. I've learned a lot tonight."#cafc
So did Dixon serlt the place on fire. Could not be there have caught a bloody cold. Fell asleep so could not follow the commentry.
Only saw second half and the 15 he played before being subbed and the first half highlights (ahem) dis not convince me that he's the messiah. He's young, inexperienced, lightweight and should go on loan in January to a non-league club to build his understanding of the men's game.
Not certain he has the professional fitness for that yet. But believe he will be decent professional in the future. He has good ballcontrol skills, needs to learn the other skills of the professional game in this country.
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However, Nathan Jones trumps any of his predecessors.
Personally, I want to see him gone as soon as possible.
In the short term, give the reins to Jason Pearce.
Must be.
What's going on? Not enough green shoots for a recovery finally realised maybe?
Replacing the Manager wont magically result in us going in the right direction, playing a better brand of Football.
We're at the point where the SMT need to be looking at doing a deal with Jones, so he can walk away - But equally we cant pretend that in 12-months time, we wont be looking back in a much worse off position than where we are now.
Could not be there have caught a bloody cold.
Fell asleep so could not follow the commentry.
My first game 1977 smashing Spurs @ the Valley!
Followed by many brilliant years home and away!
Charlton is our club please keep the faith!
"Pratley played against us for 76 minutes and didn't get booked"
Speak for yourself. Run of the mill IMO
That could easily have passed as a league starting side apart from Edun Dixon and Josh L.
AMB and REG have featured heavily even if clearly the second choices.
Small, there's a argument he should be starting over Edwards and after tonight he should.
Leaburn is first name on the temsheet for many.
Potts, Docherty, Berry and Godden were all big summer Jones signings.
And we were completely outclassed and made to look second best by Leyton orient who made plenty of changes themselves. At home.
We play most of these players in the league and get similar results...
How : is Nathan leaving us?